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Carrier Concept sketch

So, I've made a few updates to the sketch. Learning how to use Corel is kinda fun!

I like the idea of the engineering section being stuck out WAAAAY back, away from the rest of the ship. Warp drive and anti-matter and coolant sound like dangerous stuff - shouldn't they BE as far away as possible?

carrier-stretch-a.jpg
 
So, I've made a few updates to the sketch. Learning how to use Corel is kinda fun!

I like the idea of the engineering section being stuck out WAAAAY back, away from the rest of the ship. Warp drive and anti-matter and coolant sound like dangerous stuff - shouldn't they BE as far away as possible?

That's always been my own personal rationale for why Trek Federation ships have the "engineering hull" and the nacelles all separated so much from the primary hull (and it may very well be something I read way back when in The Making of Star Trek, or other resources - which book just came up in another thread.)

Interesting ship design. Silly question, but may I assume that's a dorsal view?
 
So, I've made a few updates to the sketch. Learning how to use Corel is kinda fun!

I like the idea of the engineering section being stuck out WAAAAY back, away from the rest of the ship. Warp drive and anti-matter and coolant sound like dangerous stuff - shouldn't they BE as far away as possible?

carrier-stretch-a.jpg

Looks Nice :)

Judgeing from the Warp nacelle's 2200 to 2250's ship? :)
 
Those nacelles are sharp! Very '50's "rocket ship" look.
I'd like to see more of this. Perhaps as a carrier concept, you could play with asymmetrical elements, an offset "island-bridge"? (Not sure how you'd explain it in-universe, but it might look rather neat. :))

Nice work.
 
Those nacelles are sharp! Very '50's "rocket ship" look.
I'd like to see more of this. Perhaps as a carrier concept, you could play with asymmetrical elements, an offset "island-bridge"? (Not sure how you'd explain it in-universe, but it might look rather neat. :))

Nice work.

Actually, I'm stepping off-universe a bit. The way I see it, it already DOES have an offset "island-bridge" - it is just buried deep within the saucer. More of a "CIC" than a "bridge" I suppose...

(As got older and wiser, I no longer accepted the idea of the central command section of an important starship - where all the senior command officers hang out and give orders - sitting high up top, exposed, in the center of a bulls-eye, ready to be picked off by Klingons. Or even worse, they risk getting smeared into oily goo when a butter-fingers helmsman bumps up against the ceiling of Spacedock...)

Thanks for the compliments on my nacelles! They are supposed to be big - I mean REALLY big. They are, in turn, supposed to look puny and out-of-proportion-small compared to the rest of the ship. That saucer is supposed to look cumbersome and unwieldy. I took a cue from actual aircraft carriers and noticed the darned things don't look the least bit graceful and maneuverable!

But back to the ample nacelles. I remember reading something on here about nacelles that are completely self-contained, in that they house all the necessary machinery within them, including the matter-antimatter pods, their individual intermix chambers, and warp coils. This is appealing to me. It is very visually exciting on film, I suppose, to have warp cores and sparkly intermix conduits running up and down and throughout the body of the ship, but self-contained nacelles seem to make more sense.
 
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Actually, I'm stepping off-universe a bit. The way I see it, it already DOES have an offset "island-bridge" - it is just buried deep within the saucer. More of a "CIC" than a "bridge" I suppose...

(As got older and wiser, I no longer accepted the idea of the central command section of an important starship - where all the senior command officers hang out and give orders - sitting high up top, exposed, in the center of a bulls-eye, ready to be picked off by Klingons. Or even worse, they risk getting smeared into oily goo when a butter-fingers helmsman bumps up against the ceiling of Spacedock...)

I am totally with you on that. Had the same thought for a very long time now, myself.

But back to the ample nacelles. I remember reading something on here about nacelles that are completely self-contained, in that they house all the necessary machinery within them, including the matter-antimatter pods, their individual intermix chambers, and warp coils. This is appealing to me. It is very visually exciting on film, I suppose, to have warp cores and sparkly intermix conduits running up and down and throughout the body of the ship, but self-contained nacelles seem to make more sense.

I meant to comment you your cool retro nacelles, too; like very much. And, yeah, there has been a debate raging on here for years about that issue. Someone ... and I regret that I cannot remember who exactly (or, rather, think I remember but don't want to get in trouble by guessing incorrectly) posted some pretty compelling arguments for the self-contained nacelle theory from both a practical perspective and based on dialogue from TOS (for those concerned about "canon" - among other things, there's a line from "The Apple" where Kirk tells Scotty to jettison the nacelles and break orbit if he has to.)
 
For what it's worth, I envision the Bridge as being located here, buried about 6 decks deep.
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Nice work.

BTW, thanks, but is it good enough to cause MadMan1701 to demand, beg for, have people whacked unless he's given the chance to have, the rights to model it in 3D? (That's how you know you've really hit the Big Time!)
 
I think your design reminds me of a smaller, faster vessel. I think of a carrier as looking like this http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=87002 -wide, flat spaces...

When it comes time to get down to details, those will give a sense of scale.

I could see how this thing could be split into two directions; one direction is to develop it as a massive ship with the flight decks located in the saucer (unlike in that nifty McQuarry design you linked); and a second direction as a small, fast vessel.
 
^ I'm surprised that the Atlantis hasn't been the focus of more fan artwork over the years. The basic design seems to have quite a bit of potential for variants.

That Atlantis is intriguing, to say the least. I remember that model rocket.

I think if the nose could be developed, with enough detail so that it no longer looks like... well, a cardboard model rocket, but without getting carried away and mucking up the pure design elements, we could REALLY have something there.

How about this? ;)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t135/jcd132/Models/Star%20Trek%20Models/Polar%20Lights%20Conversions/DSCF3161.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/... Models/Polar Lights Conversions/DSCF3163.jpg

I built this recently using the Estes Atlantis as inspiration. The parts are from a Polar Lights Enterprise kit and a 1/144 scale shuttle SRB booster, among a few other tidbits.

This ship reminds me of the main ship in the Babylon 5 show Crusade.

As for the OP carrier ship it reminds me of the Enterprise-J
 
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I think if you're looking to get your ship turned into 3D, it might be an idea to create some more views. A single top-down sketch with little detail isn't a lot to go on if you want a 3 dimensional fully detailed ship. Imagine trying to create the Ent-D if all you had was a sketched outline of it from the top.
 
... Imagine trying to create the Ent-D if all you had was a sketched outline of it from the top.

Imagine if it was still being created, and you had an opportunity to shape it's final design!

Sometimes it's a good idea to leave a little mystery for the artists' imaginations - sort of like letting the ladies wonder what's under your kilt!
 
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