I agree. I don't drink at all. I don't think it tastes good and I don't want to get drunk. I'm a control freak like that.
Have you been affected by someone else's drinking?
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I agree. I don't drink at all. I don't think it tastes good and I don't want to get drunk. I'm a control freak like that.
No. No one else in my family ever drank to excess. And in my drinking days, I always drank alone. So apart from that time I sat on my niece's birthday cake (well, one piece anyway), then my drinking didn't affect anyone else either.
Even if someone drinks alone, their drinking can still have indirect effects on someone else. I'm not saying this was necessarily the case for you, but it can still have an effect.
I've never drank any alcohol, and am almost 22 presently. Certainly, there is a large chunk of society which is built around bars and night clubs, and if there is one drawback to my refusal to drink, it is the solitude which results from ruling out that kind of lifestyle. In any case, I looked at the potential for good that alcohol consumption could offer, and looked at the potential for negatives, and I saw no reason to even begin. Drinking is in the simplest sense the consumption of poison.
As for being affected by other people's drinking, I never have been. As someone who never drinks, I have never found myself in the company of drunken people. Additionally, nobody in my household ever drank.
I find it ironic that our society condemns the victims of alcoholism and mocks those who abstain from alcohol, culturally implying that the most prudent and appropriate social position in regard to the matter is to discover and maintain an elusive balance by learning to consume an addictive and destructive material in moderation.
Drink has ruined many people's lives, and the origin of that ruin is often rooted in the social pressure placed on the individual initially to engage in the consumption of alcohol. Essentially, the addicted alcoholic began life without any thirst for the drink whatsoever, but became its slave because of a degenerate culture which preached that social acceptance should be sought at the expense of the rational mind.
As for being affected by other people's drinking, I never have been. As someone who never drinks, I have never found myself in the company of drunken people. Additionally, nobody in my household ever drank.
I find it ironic that our society condemns the victims of alcoholism and mocks those who abstain from alcohol, culturally implying that the most prudent and appropriate social position in regard to the matter is to discover and maintain an elusive balance by learning to consume an addictive and destructive material in moderation.
Drink has ruined many people's lives, and the origin of that ruin is often rooted in the social pressure placed on the individual initially to engage in the consumption of alcohol. Essentially, the addicted alcoholic began life without any thirst for the drink whatsoever, but became its slave because of a degenerate culture which preached that social acceptance should be sought at the expense of the rational mind.
I too will have to agree with those who classify alcohol as a poison, and have found this to be true through my own experience. I will not be touching it with a bargepole ever again. I have no problem with alcohol in moderation, but I do believe it is the lazy man's version of enjoyment, I believe it is possible to achieve exactly the same result with your own mind. Our bodies are amazing laboratories in themselves.
My experience with my brother was very similar to that of your sister. He died in February of '09. I remember reading your thread just prior to that and thinking that I was about to face a similar situation.
Yes, I am fine. Thanks for asking. It's been over a year now since she died.
I just thought posting the link would be easier than telling the whole story over again.
Looks like many of us have similar stories.
Unfortunately, my brother was just the lastest in a long line of achohol-related deaths in my family. My father and another brother also died of alchohol-related diseases, another brother died from the effects of alchohol withdrawal and a sister died when she fell from a balcony at a college party.
^I'm so sorry for your losses. The disease can be just devastating. How are you doing with this all?
If any of you are depressed, angry, frustrated, etc, because of what alcoholism has done to your family members, please consider going to an Alanon meeting. Alanon is an organization that helps family members of alcoholics heal and recover.
My new blog post describes the life of Lois Wilson. , who founded Alanon.
If any of you are depressed, angry, frustrated, etc, because of what alcoholism has done to your family members, please consider going to an Alanon meeting. Alanon is an organization that helps family members of alcoholics heal and recover.
My new blog post describes the life of Lois Wilson. , who founded Alanon.
My problem with Alanon is its religious overtones. As an atheist i think I would be very uncomfortable at an Alanon meeting.
I hope you don't let this issue stop you from trying Alanon. Alanon is a spiritual program, not a religious one. I know several atheists in Alanon. Their higher power (which the 12 Steps require one to have) is the power of nature, or the rhythm of the universe, or the power of the group.
My experience with my brother was very similar to that of your sister. He died in February of '09. I remember reading your thread just prior to that and thinking that I was about to face a similar situation.I'm so sorry.Are you doing okay?
Yes, I am fine. Thanks for asking. It's been over a year now since she died.
I just thought posting the link would be easier than telling the whole story over again.
Looks like many of us have similar stories.
Unfortunately, my brother was just the lastest in a long line of achohol-related deaths in my family. My father and another brother also died of alchohol-related diseases, another brother died from the effects of alchohol withdrawal and a sister died when she fell from a balcony at a college party.
Jesus!
That's terrible. I never thought I'd feel (relatively) lucky. I am so sorry.
Your poor mother....
My niece and nephew gave me shit for years about sitting on the cake. I was convinced they did that on purpose (placed the slice strategically where they knew I was going to sit).
That was definitely the drunkest I've ever been in front of anyone in my family.
I remember when my sister was drinking and she would completely lose her mind. She'd be out and just fucking snap and be paranoid as all hell, doing insanely stupid shit while terrified and hating herself.
Not until after she calmed down and got help did I realize that a part of my mind had already started to think how I would cope with her dying because of it. I never really knew how to feel about that fact.
Not until after she calmed down and got help did I realize that a part of my mind had already started to think how I would cope with her dying because of it. I never really knew how to feel about that fact.
Thanks. My mother died before most of this, though (cancer). My remaining sisters and I don't talk about it, but I'm pretty sure that's what precipitated everything.
Jesus!
That's terrible. I never thought I'd feel (relatively) lucky. I am so sorry.
Your poor mother....
Our family went to Hazleton early on. Obviously, it didn't do us any good, but that's the thing with those programs: You have to be willing at the get-go. That's not how our family worked, so it's no surprise that it didn't help us. Anyway, I've (hopefully) learned to deal with everything. I enjoy having some beers when I go out, but I'm very conscious of my family's heritage. Apparently cigarettes have become my vice of choice instead.