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Have you been affected by someone else's drinking?

scottydog

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My dad was an alcoholic, and it definitely messed up my family. Thank goodness for Al-Anon!

Have any of you been affected by this disease? Sadly, it's a huge problem in our society.

In case you are interested, I just finished writing a blog post on Lois Wilson, the founder of Al-Anon. The URL is in my signature.

Winona Ryder plays the role of Lois in an upcoming "Hallmark Hall of Fame" movie, Sunday, April 25th, at 9pm. Be sure to check it out if you can.
 
My late mother began sliding into alcoholism when she hit fifty circa 2000 according to husband #3 (she couldn't handle the fact that she was getting older, apparently), but as we had been almost completely estranged since my father's death in 1988 when I was seventeen - she got married to husband #2 and relocated to Hong Kong before dad could even be cremated - it didn't effect me in the slightest on any practical or emotional level.

SLR
 
Yes.......thankfully that's all past now, but one of the repercussions of all that was that i personally hate drink with a passion for what it can do to some people, that will never change.
 
My mother drank heavily when i was a child. Her drinking caused a great deal of problems and heartache.

My ex-husband drank but I don't think his drinking was responsible for his violent behaviour towards me. He just used to blame alcohol for the violence. However he was always in control of the level of violence he inflicted even when he was drunk. Also he could be just as violent when sober.

My eldest son gets nasty when he is drunk. Nowadays I rarely hear from him at all which suits me just fine.

My middle son just get annoying when he has been drinking. At times I get real irritated with him because I have an alcohol-free house and he will come home drunk which sort of defeats the purpose of an alcohol-free house.

I don't drink alcohol at all. My youngest son very occasionally drinks socially when out with friends but I have never seen him drunk (he is 27).

I really wish that alcohol didn't exist at all. I have been negatively affected by it though out my life despite being a tee-totaller.
 
I got punched in the face by a wino once.

Seriously, I've been affected by other people's alcoholism only in very minor ways. Other members of my immediate family have been affected in much larger ways, including a separation from their spouse and having to look after someone else's young son while both his parents were in rehab.
 
Yes, but not really directly. My cousin got rip roarin drunk, knowing he has an alcohol problem, beat his GF to a pulp, and is now serving 3 years in jail for it.

Its affected the whole family.
 
My parents are both high-functioning alcoholics. I wish that they wouldn't drink so much, especially my mother, especially now that she's getting older.

When we're all on vacation she tends to have a few too many at lunch and pass out for the rest of the day. It's a waste considering we only get to see each other a few times a year.

On the upside they're pleasant drunks. :lol: They don't start fights, and the waitresses love them.

I remember when we were young they'd have two (maybe three) pitchers of beer and then drive us all home from dinner. It seems incredibly reckless now, but was pretty common then.
 
My ex-wife nearly met her maker last month when, during one of her late weekday night binges, she went down a flight of stairs in her home. At midnight I got a frantic call from my youngest daughter who was choked with horror and could barely communicate. Her mother was not breathing until my older daughter got to her. They called 911 and very soon the police and ambulance were there. She suffered a concussion and broke her arm in the fall.

In December, she had gathered the 3 kids together and explained to them that, though she had been going to AA, there was going to be liquor at her company Christmas party and would any of them mind if she just had some wine. In effect, this psychotic bitch put the onus back on her own children's shoulders. The kids had told me she sips wine in the afternoons but really starts pounding it down after they head to their rooms for the night so this incident (not an accident, either, since we all saw it coming) really was just a matter of time.

My point is that each of them have suffered for their mother's alcohol abuse over the years, but watching your mother lie to the ER about drinking that night (which she later admitted to) and dealing with her blackened head caused by blood from the concussion and having to take daily care of a pathetic woman who has no one to blame but herself for what happened, is a new dimension of lasting, emotional trauma they will all have to deal with someday.
 
My dad's aunt is an alcoholic. When I was a kid, my parents tried to shield me from the effects, and they did a pretty good job. However, I was a very observant child; not much happened that I didn't figure out from watching other people's reactions. I could tell the destruction it brought on her life and the lives of the rest of the family. I decided when I was 5 that I would never drink alcohol. I'm 28, and I've still never had a drink.
 
Yes.......thankfully that's all past now, but one of the repercussions of all that was that i personally hate drink with a passion for what it can do to some people, that will never change.


Same here. My dad was a drunk (and a passionate drug user) and so was my first stepdad. Both of these led to my brother becoming a drunk as well. His drunkness and destructive behavior made life hell for my mom in the last years of her life and (I think) contributed to her death. I have not spoken to my brother since she died, and really, would have cut off all contact with him years before due to his abusive behavior, only my mom wouldn't let me because "families are supposed to love each other".

Because of all this, I do not drink, and will not tolerate it in my house.
 
My Father has been an alcoholic since I was a kid-- probably since before I was born. It's one of the factors that led me to become independent at a very early age. His bad habits led to a lot of grief for my Mother, but for me personally it just meant that I never had a Father, just a guy who was a nuisance who lived in the same house. Now he is very old and sick; he hurt himself more than he hurt me.
 
I'm very moved by all your stories. Thank you for sharing them.

Most alcoholics don't love themselves enough. :(

What I've learned about alcoholics is that they are 'insecure egomaniacs', a paradoxical term meaning that their arrogance masks a deep-seated self-loathing.

Mostly they are to be pitied. They are in the grips of a disease that is baffling and cunning. If left untreated, it leads to insanity or death.
 
WARNING! My Story is Long and Fairly Cynical


I was born when I was just a young kid. And yes, there will be more bad jokes to come. Anyway, I suffer a minor birth defect because, even though my mom was a nurse and knew Alcohol would have negative effects on a child, she figured "Well, Pot isn't alcohol" and smoked away.

Despite the alcohol and pot use, my early life was fairly normal. It wasn't until I was six or so where shit really hit the fan. She would disappear for several days and drug and booze binges, leaving use with verbally and physically abusive babysitters. She came in one night, demanding money from my dad. She reached into his pocket, and my dad pushed her away. She left, and came back with Bruises, and used this as evidence to get a restraining order. This lead to my mother and father getting seperated. Which PROBABLY should have happened sooner.

Anyway, this mean that we would end up with our baby sitters for long stretches of time, until My Dad finally put the foot down and moved his ass back in and kicked them out. It didn't hurt that we'd been calling him every night, and he would come home every night.... How was my mom going to even notice.

Things improved slightly, considering we didn't have abusive babysitters. We just had a drunk and coked up mother would steal our bikes, our video games, and our allowances for drug money. She also gave birth to the fourth child, who was born premature as all hell (as in, he almost set the record for earliest premature birth to survive) and addicted to coke.

I should point out that I was blissfully ignorant. I knew something was wrong. I didn't know what. I knew that I was eight or nine and cooking dinner for the entire family.

My Mom came out about in a few years later, but would claim she's heading out to meetings. Because how dare we question that? Of course, I would follow her into the Ghetto on my bike. That's why I'm such a good biker. Because I didn't "Ride half a mile to school". I was busting ass chasing cars into the ghetto. I wonder how I turned out so fat.....


Anyway, things hit a point where she couldn't lie. She had left my little sister with drug dealers as COLLATERAL for drugs she used,but didn't pay for. This should have been one of those great "Hey, we should call the police on this bitch" moments, but we didn't do jack.


Really, it just went on like this. Though she did make a few good efforts at being sober. During this time she met my stepdad. I have to give my Dad credit. He knew the marriage was over, so he just accepted that fact that his wife DID find a good guy. And we also felt bad for the poor sap.


ANYWAY, she finally became Sober in the year 2000, which is the second point where shit hit the fan. See, because of this life I was living my brain sort of retreated. You know how some people will become just like their family members in these situations? Well, that was NOT me. In fact, I decided that "Fuck that, I'm better than all of you." and became hilariously moralistic, but also crude, mean, and arrogant. Also depressed. That's the key.

Because instead of realizing I had a shit life, they put me on meds. And I spent time in and out of hospitals. Thing is, I'm off the meds and living a normal life now. Happily eve after? Hell no.

You see, my mother feels this need to make up for all the things she has done in the past. But Me and my siblings are adults, living our own lives now. So she tries to force problems on to us for her to solve. She's spent years trying to get me legally declared as Disabled, much to my Dad and Stepmom's dismay. She has tried to keep me from getting jobs, to the point of walking into some of my job interviews.

Meanwhile, she spends all day and night on the phone with fellow Recovery people. My brother voluntarily checked himself into rehab, my younger one. He's still in High School. Which is great, but it shouldn't have happened. Because what happened was, my mother is blissfully ignorant of the things that go on with him and my sister. She lives religiously according to AA Guidelines, yet spends more time with the big book than her family.


As far as I'm concerned, AA is just another addiction. It's unhealthy. I recall hearing my mother on the phone telling somebody that "You say your sober, but you aren't until you really start believing in the program." So, what, it's a goddamn cult now?
 
I'm very moved by all your stories. Thank you for sharing them.

Most alcoholics don't love themselves enough. :(

What I've learned about alcoholics is that they are 'insecure egomaniacs', a paradoxical term meaning that their arrogance masks a deep-seated self-loathing.

Mostly they are to be pitied. They are in the grips of a disease that is baffling and cunning. If left untreated, it leads to insanity or death.


I have to agree and disagree with that. That idea fits with some while others drink for the opposite reason. The more intoxicated they are the less they to think about what is bothering them or what the world has done to them. But if you boil it down, both types are using the alcohol to hide.



As for myself, my sister's first husband was an alcoholic. He was kind and gentle when sober but became this evil abusive monster when liquored up. I also have a friend who is slowly drinking himself to death. The poor thing is so completely unhappy with his life at the moment I think he would rather be in a drunken haze than deal with things. It kills me to see him slowly killing himself. But he is not willing or able to admit he has a problem right now so I am waiting for him to hit rock bottom. It is painful for me too. I feel so helpless. But I just need to remember that he has to want to change things and that I can't force him. :(

I also admit that I drink. I just don't drink as often I as I used too. I might have a couple of glasses a week these days. Sometimes I will go for a couple of weeks without so much as a drop. Ten years ago I could drink someone twice my size under the table though. I guess I have learned moderation since then. I am in control.
 
As far as I'm concerned, AA is just another addiction. It's unhealthy. I recall hearing my mother on the phone telling somebody that "You say your sober, but you aren't until you really start believing in the program." So, what, it's a goddamn cult now?

I used to have that same concern, namely, that AA and Al-Anon were cults. I did some research and learned the 12 criteria that define a cult. AA and Al-Anon only meet one of the criterion: participants have difficulty with relationships. The other criteria don't hold, which include things such as having a strong leader who pressures you to join and to stay, extreme control, isolation of the group from society, significant monetary cost, etc.

So bottom line is, they aren't cults. But having said that, I know of some members of AA who develop an extreme dependency on AA, to the point that it takes the place of their drug of choice. A good sponsor will notice that and encourage a healthier life balance.
 
My parents have spent to much money on booze well my mother has.
She does not get drunk or drink in the day but their is never a day goes by where she does not have a drink.
I am not sure if this makes her a alcoholic or not.
I know the booze is not responsible for her mental health issues but I sometimes wonder if she would be has bad if she did not drink.
 
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