Should RDM reimagine Ruck Rogers or Knight Rider?

[Lyon_Wonder]

The other day I was thinking about Larson's other shows after BSG-TOS and was thinking what a RDM Buck Rogers or Knight Rider would be like.
I guess an RDM Buck Rodger would deal with Buck in a 25th century earth that's still reeling from the repercussions of a major war.

In the original 80s Knight Rider a wealthy man Wilton starts the Knight Foundation and creates the AIs KITT and KARR. Though he didn't live beyond the pilot episode, Wilton Knight was sort of the opposite of Daniel Graystone, and didn't act selfish and narcissistic with his creations. Of course like Caprica, a reimgained RDM Knight Rider would likely have to deal with the ethics of AIs too. Like TNG's Lore and Data, KARR turned out bad while KITT was ethical and selfless.

 

[doubleohfive]

I still think he should re-imagine Chip & Dale's Rescue Rangers, myself.

I suggested this very thing two years ago and it met with some interesting responses.

 

[RandyS]

No.

My dislike for what he did to Galactica aside, NO MORE REMAKES!!!! Knight Rider has already been remade, and it failed. Too bad too, since I thought it was a halfway decent show. If Buck Rogers is remade, please PLEASE, PLEASE give it to anybody else.

Brannon Braga comes to mind.

That aside, aren't there any new ideas left? If Ron Moore makes another show, it should be something of his own creation.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Buck Rogers is already being reimagined by the production company that does Phase II. It is taking Buck back to his comic strip roots, from all reports.

And yes, it IS an official reboot. The project is being done under license from the estate. There is a trailer/sampler footage out where Buck is trying to convince his parents to let him go to Europe to fight in WWI. Mom and Dad Rogers are played by Gil Gerrard and Erin Grey (and quite nicely too).

 

[doubleohfive]

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Said sample footage is posted in the Fan Productions forum of this very board.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

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Said sample footage is posted in the Fan Productions forum of this very board.

True, though, as I noted, it really isn't "Fan pro", being officially licensed and all.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Ehh, I dunno. Buck Rogers was already re-done as Farscape. Knight Rider isn't worth a remake.

RDM should license the rights to the Red-Blue-Green Mars franchise. Even if he doesn't want to follow them religiously, that's fine. Any story about a Mars Colony in conflict with Earth would be highly welcome by me.

 

[pst]

this isn't a slight against RDM. i think he's a great writer and clearly an awesome producer/show runner.

BSG was a fluke. i doubt he'll ever attain such creative success again, so suggesting that he should work his magic on other dead properties that need resurrecting is just a waste of time. in my opinion anyway.

 

[doubleohfive]

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Said sample footage is posted in the Fan Productions forum of this very board.

True, though, as I noted, it really isn't "Fan pro", being officially licensed and all.

The distinction is academic at best. It's still a fan-produced production; while they may have some professionals working on it and while they do have the rights to the license to actually make this film (as opposed to their Star Trek productions and the Wild Wild West), it's still an amateur production.

Regardless, my mentioning of the footage being available in the fan productions forum was only to direct anyone interested in seeing said footage to the thread on this board.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

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Said sample footage is posted in the Fan Productions forum of this very board.

True, though, as I noted, it really isn't "Fan pro", being officially licensed and all.

The distinction is academic at best. It's still a fan-produced production; while they may have some professionals working on it and while they do have the rights to the license to actually make this film (as opposed to their Star Trek productions and the Wild Wild West), it's still an amateur production.

Small studio, maybe, but not ameteur. Licensed, for profit, and participants paid for their time (as I understand the situation) is NOT "ameture". That's "pro".

Regardless, my mentioning of the footage being available in the fan productions forum was only to direct anyone interested in seeing said footage to the thread on this board.

That it does...

 

[BolianAuthor]

Buck Rogers, yes... Knight Rider, no... EVERY attempt to redo KR has always been a complete and dismal epic failure beyond comprehension, and I don't need to see it happen yet again. But BR could be remade, if done the right way, and I think I could trust RDM with the task.

 

[O'Dib]

Automan. Except it's a girl. She goes by Autumn Anne.

 

[Warp Coil]

I'd be interested in RDM doing something original, not another re-imagining of an existing franchise.

 

[RandyS]

I'd be interested in RDM doing something original, not another re-imagining of an existing franchise.

Agreed.

 

[BolianAuthor]

The other day I was thinking about Larson's other shows after BSG-TOS and was thinking what a RDM Buck Rogers or Knight Rider would be like.
I guess an RDM Buck Rodger would deal with Buck in a 25th century earth that's still reeling from the repercussions of a major war.

In the original 80s Knight Rider a wealthy man Wilton starts the Knight Foundation and creates the AIs KITT and KARR. Though he didn't live beyond the pilot episode, Wilton Knight was sort of the opposite of Daniel Graystone, and didn't act selfish and narcissistic with his creations. Of course like Caprica, a reimgained RDM Knight Rider would likely have to deal with the ethics of AIs too. Like TNG's Lore and Data, KARR turned out bad while KITT was ethical and selfless.

The reasons KARR and Lore were "evil" is also the same... both felt abandoned and betrayed by their creators, who had them dismantled, and favored the newer, more controllable and docile models... KITT and Data.

 

[ClayHefner]

Knight Rider could be set on Caprica with KITT being a Cylon.

 

[Tom]

RDM would far well doing a Series based on the movie Blade Runner IMO.

 

[stj]

The original Buck Rogers was a Yellow Peril story, which is racist BS. The Thirties serial had Killer Kane and gangsters run amok, which was too specific to Prohibition bootleggers to be suitable. The Glen Larson Buck Rogers had space invaders, which I am finding harder and harder to accept the more experience I have watching the US fall on its ass invading other countries on the same planet.

None of these versions is worth reviving.

Knight Rider is formally about AI, which is an untouched field. But the multiple failures of Caprica to come up with decent speculative/fictional computer science means any KR revival at Moore's hands would be based on terminally stupid premises. And Moore is much too heavy handed a writer to do a light adventure series. What would be the point of reviving Knight Rider if it isn't deftly done? Just think about the title: A smart car is a knight's armored steed. This is not stuff to take solemnly.

Moore should make a WWII series.

 

[Silvercrest]

Well... formally, it's about "a man who does not exist", and "a young loner on a crusade ... in a world of criminals who operate above the law." Since that's what the voiceover says, we have to assume that's the formal premise for the show. And yeah, he drives a smart car.

Unfortunately, they didn't choose to actually follow that premise for most of the episodes. What would a remake be like if they did?

 

[The Comedian]

Ehh, I dunno. Buck Rogers was already re-done as Farscape. Knight Rider isn't worth a remake.

RDM should license the rights to the Red-Blue-Green Mars franchise. Even if he doesn't want to follow them religiously, that's fine. Any story about a Mars Colony in conflict with Earth would be highly welcome by me.

Kim Stanley Robinson? Ye gods, no. That dude couldn't come up with anything remotely resembling a non-whiny character if someone held a .44 Magnum to his head and dictated to him.

If I want to go to Mars, keep the stupid space hippies and take me to Barsoom or maybe Bradbury's Mars.