The ring ship Enterprise does appear in two ENT episodes:
- First Flight (a picture on the wall of the 602 Club)
- Home (another picture, this time in Admiral Forrest's office)
Is Enterprise Canon?
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The ring ship Enterprise does appear in two ENT episodes:
- First Flight (a picture on the wall of the 602 Club)
- Home (another picture, this time in Admiral Forrest's office)
I think a big point is being missed. Instead of twisting definitions so that a statement about cannibalism can be construed as duplicating, think about why canon is sometimes violated. Do we really want to stick to the belief that ships that far in the future will not have video communication? Is it really feasible that a war can happen at such a large scale and the combatants not see each other? Especially when territory and expansion is part of the war. Do we want another show in which tapes are used in computers, women cannot be captains, and futuristic enhancements to the ship include automatic sliding doors?
Isn't it better to violate some aspects of canon? Instead of "Is Enterprise Canon" the question should be "What aspects of TOS are best ignored?" In some ways we've already advanced past TOS both technologically and socially. Why take a step back just for canon?
Isn't it better to violate some aspects of canon? Instead of "Is Enterprise Canon" the question should be "What aspects of TOS are best ignored?" In some ways we've already advanced past TOS both technologically and socially. Why take a step back just for canon?
Saquist
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I don't think FTL communication should be taken for granted.
Step up to the challenge and perhaps breed some creativity...do something different...
What are you so afraid of? (Hypothetical question of course)
Didnt' know that but I was talking about afterwards..not in respects of after TMP but in the show's time.
Hell, in Trek XI nobody seemed suprised about what the Romulans looked like.
No, not evasive. What it is is rationalization. Something that all fans need to maked the jigsaw that is Trek canon work as a single continuity. When Spock says "Nor was there even ship-to-ship visual communication. Therefore, no human, Romulan, or ally has ever seen the other". That is open to interpretation as too why. Is it and addendum to his previous statement ( primitive ships) or a prelude to his next? (not seeing a Romulan). Also we have to consider why this Then we have to evaluate the line visa vis what we see in the canon as a whole and the level of technology we have to dayhow that can be extrapolated towards the future. Taking all that into concisderation, the line can not work as "written" and another explanation must be found.
Starfleet is a generic term like navy or army. It only become specific with the addition of a qualifier like United States, Royal, United Earth or United Fedration of Planets. The Ringship and the NX-01 are not UFP ships and would not be part of the UFP Starfleet lineage. Like the NX-01 it part of the lineage of ships named Enterprise,put not of the lineage of UFP Starfleet ships named Enterprise.
90% of Star Trek canon and continuity is compose of single lines and images. So tossing out things based on lack of repetition makes no sense.
The computers on board the E-D can track every crewmemeber or guest. "Computer, where is Commander Riker?" So when Scott walks up and asks for "my ship" the computer knows who he is and which ships he's referring to. Once he specifies the Enterprise the computer asks him which one. As I said, its not going to include a ship he never served one (thats not part of "my ship") and especially not a ship that was decommisioned before he was born. It is because the computer has a literal mind set that it can know who Scott is and which ships he might be refering to.
And the Warp Age will be even more significant.
And the internal combustion engine, the airplane, the television and the computer were all invented in the span of about 100 years.
Aren't these technologies "evolving" though? The ships are faster, the weapons more powerful. And the package changes too. Flip top communicators become wristbands go back to even bulkier flip tops and then become pins. Bulky phase pistols become smaller phasers, including one that can fit in the palm of your hand. Torpedoes go from spatial to photonic to photon to quantum. Spatial torps look like missles while the others have differnent shapes.
But thats wasn't my original point. My point was all Trek shows use the similar tech. The tech used is part of the Trek signature. If you're going to fault Enterprise, you have to fault TNG too. If ENTs tech is too similar to TOS, then TNGs is too.
Thing is, none of the shows are focused on the "realistic" evolution of their fictional technologies. They are just tools to tell a story. Star Trek uses the classic SF techs: Spaceships and rayguns. And all thats required is they fly through space and shoot energy beams. Calling the raygun a phase pistol, a laser, a phaser, a partical beam emmtter or some other made up name isn't going to change its function in the fictional world of Star Trek. Its a raygun.
And this proves the NX-01 is a literal duplicate how? No one is claiming that they didn't use the Akira as the basis for the NX-01.
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Is "Star Trek: Enterprise" Canon or Not Canon?
The short answer is... yes. It is canon. However, "Enterprise" also broke previous Trek canon, though.
In other words, although I believe "Enterprise" to be canon, I personally do believe it violated previous Trek canon and doesn't belong in the Core Trek Time Line but rather in an Alternate Time Line, instead.
What is the difference between canon broke within Enterprise versus the canon broke within the other series you might ask?
Star Trek Enterprise's canonical mistakes unnecessarily draws attention to itself in the fact that it copies or re-hashes (without any logic) things from the 24th Century. It violates the very core of what the show is supposed to be (Which is a prequel series). However, what makes it worse is that it not only deliberately ignores canon but they don't give us a proper explanation as to why such changes are made either. Oh, sure we can guess that Enterprise is some kind of Temporal Cold War or First Contact Time Line. However, we shouldn't have to apologize for a show that has repetitive story lines, illogical recycling of the 24th Century, a Vulcan in a sex suit, lack of character development, unexplained story arcs, and sub par acting.
Now, I don't mind a re-polished or updated look within the Trek Universe. In fact, it totally worked in JJ Abram's Star Trek, and you know why? They didn't radically change the technology to make you think it was no longer Kirk's era anymore. There was no holodecks, TR-116 rifles, or saucer separating star ships.
I mean, it was made very clear long ago that the 22nd Century was supposed to be a lot more primitive and different than the way we see it on Enterprise. I mean, what is worse is that we shouldn't even have to be told that the 22nd Century should look and feel differently than the 23rd or 24th Century. It is just pure logic that each Century should bring about major significant and easily recognizable differences.
In fact, the point I am trying to make here is that there has to be some realm of believability within the movies or television shows we watch. Otherwise we wouldn't watch them in the first place.
Anyways, here is a list Enterprise's Canon Breakers...
Enterprise's Canon Violations (or Possible Problems):
1. Earth had primitive ships with no view screens that used primitive atomic weapons:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61078
Spock specifically stated in TOS "Balance of Terror" that there was no visual ship to ship communication (no view screens) and that Earth used primitive vessels with primitive atomic (nuclear based) type weapons in the Earth Romulan War.
2. No Enterprise NX-01 mentioned:
TNG: http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61083
DS9: http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61091
Yeah, although this is not concrete proof on it's own: In TNG "Relics", Scotty asks the holodeck to bring up the Enterprise. The computer says there are five Federation starships by that name. Granted, Archer's ship was not an official Federation ship. But it was a rather important ship within the formation of the Federation, though. And should have been mentioned by the computer. Again, this scene by itself is not all that conclusive.
However, we do have another scene that helps further corroborate this scene in TNG within Deep Space Nine, though. In DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations", Sisko is asked by a Temporal Investigations agent which Enterprise he is referring to (when he time traveled). Sisko tells the two agents that it was the first Enterprise (Kirk's ship). The other agent helps out and says there are six starships with the name Enterprise. Now if we were to count all six of those starships at that point, it would be the...
1. NCC-1701
2. NCC-1701-A
3. NCC-1701-B
4. NCC-1701-C
5. NCC-1701-D
6. NCC-1701-E
So between the Enterprise D computer, Scotty, Sisko, and two temporal investigation agents: the NX-01 is not mentioned as being a significant Enterprise or starship, even though it was a rather important ship in helping to form the Federation (Regardless if the NX-01 was a Federation ship or not).
3. Romulan Cloaking Device was discovered in the 23rd Century:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61097
In TOS "Balance of Terror", Spock and Kirk are both surprised when they see the Romulan ship's cloaking technology. Spock theorizes about the requirements needed for this technology seeing it is the first time he has seen (or gained knowledge of) something like this. Yet, on "Enterprise" we see a Romulan ship de-cloak right before Archer's eyes.
4. No Klingon First Contact Disaster:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61096
In TNG's TV episode titled "First Contact", Picard mentions to the ambassador that "first contact" with Klingons led to decades of war, which eventually led Starfleet to do surveillance of new alien cultures or worlds before making "first contact". But in ENT's "Broken Bow" there was no indication that "first contact" went bad in any way. Sure, you can interpret the "first contact" scene to mean that the event in "Broken Bow" caused problems later on, which led to decades of war. But it we didn't see it happen at any point within the series, though. Besides, at the time the TNG episode aired, it was pretty clear that Picard was referring to an incident that was a lot more disastrous and not an event that came about peacefully initially (like we seen in "Broken Bow").
5. No Women Captains yet in the TOS Series:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/60122
In TOS's "Turnabout Intruder", Janice Lester states to Kirk that... "Your world of Starship Captains doesn't admit women". Many folks think that Janice was talking about Kirk leaving her to be a Captain. However, Kirk later said that Lester tortured and punished him over the fact that his world of Starship Captains doesn't admit women. How can Janice punish Kirk if he left her? In other words, what this scene really means is that it is possible for women to become Captains within Starfleet, but there just hasn't been any women Captains yet with that particular point in time within the Original Series (because of the difficulties of the test or whatever).
To read the full argument. Please, check out this post here...
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=3979643&postcount=115
6. No phasers in the 22nd Century:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61103
In TNG's "A Matter of Time", Worf stated that there were no phasers in the 22nd Century. Yet we see phase pistols that closely resemble phasers in Archer's era. In the episode, the time traveler was asking what was the most "important" examples of progress in the last 200 years to Commander Riker. He was not asking for subtle changes within history. He was asking for significant changes within history. That is why Riker mentioned the Warp coil. So when Worf later volunteered that there were no phasers in the 22nd Century, how can it be that phase pistols were not mentioned seeing they are essentially an earlier version of the phaser? I mean, sure the phaser had more powerful effects. However, you would think that the phase pistol would have been mentioned seeing it is essentially an energy based weapon that was the blue print for the phaser.
7. TNG's Pegasus & TATV:
ENT: http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61250
TNG: http://www.tubechop.com/watch/61409
You will note that Riker says in ENT's "These Are The Voyages" that he is ready to talk to Captain Picard now after his little holodeck lesson. So he then walks out of the holodeck with Troi and the camera zooms out to show the Enterprise D in the asteroid field.
However, Riker never went to Picard and revealed the truth about the secret he was carrying. Riker was convinced to reveal the truth to Picard only when the Romulans trapped the Enterprise inside the asteroid (where the starship Pegasus was). Also, lets say Riker was going to go to Picard to reveal the truth to him and later got interrupted by the crisis of being trapped within the asteroid. Riker surely wouldn't be fooling around in the holodeck after he just retrieved sensitive technology and being inside the asteroid. Also, if Riker had done this holodeck program before discovering the "Pegasus", how come he didn't go to Picard like he said he would? So this suggests that the events in TATV are different than the way we know them in the TNG "Pegasus" episode.
Enterprise goes back to 24th Century...
Star Trek Enterprise seems more like a show that has gone back to the future or the 24th Century again instead of actually getting inventive and making us truly believe this was a 22nd Century Trek show.
Enterprise vs Other Trek:
1. View screens (View screens)
2. Phase pistols (Phasers)
3. Phase cannons (Phasers)
4. Photonic Torpedoes (Quantum torpedoes)
5. Subspace Plasma Pocket Injectors (Anti Tachyon Emitters)
6. Polarized Hull Plating (Shields)
7. T'Pol's sex suit (Seven of Nine's sex suit)
8. Transporter (Transporter)
9. Romulan cloaking device (Romulan cloaking device)
10. TNG style Romulan outfits (TNG style Romulan outfits)
11. 24th Century Borg (24th Century Borg)
12. 24th Century Ferengi (24th Century Ferengi)
13. Black leather Section 31 outfits (Black leather Section 31 outfits)
14. Planet or New Humanoid Looking Alien Race of the Week Show (Ditto)
15. Dr Phlox (Neelix)
16. The exterior of NX-01 is literally a duplicate of a 24th Century ship.
17. Universal Translator (Universal Translator)
What Enterprise Should Have Been:
1. The Ship should have been called the Pheonix (And not the Enterprise)
2. No view screens
3. No phase pistols (Non energy type weapons only)
4. No phasers (Regular Missiles)
5. No Photonic Torpedoes (Nuclear Missiles)
6. A Ship that doesn't look like the Enterprise or any other copy of a 24th Century ship.
7. Talented Lead Actor and cast (No Scott Bakula and non charismatic cast)
8. No Aliens on the ship
9. The formation of the Federation
10. Klingon First Contact Disaster
11. No Romulan Cloaking Devices
12. Early events leading up to the Romulan Earth War.
13. No Transporters (or at least no Transporters that can transport living matter)
14. Vulcans should have never been on Earth yet.
15. Vulcans should have been more logical and less emotional.
16. Alien encounters should have been either shocking or scary about 90% of the time.
17. Actual Character Development.
18. No Universal Translators and only a small fraction of the alien races they run up against they could actually communicate with at all.
In other words, it ain't a normal prequel if everything stays the same with the previous shows.
Also, just looking at "Star Trek: Enterprise", I am not given the impression visually that it is any different than the 24th or 23rd Centuries.
So that is why I believe "Star Trek: Enterprise" to be an alternate time line.
In fact, if your interested, you can check out my reasons for "Enterprise" being an alternate time line by checking out my other post here...
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=3997390&postcount=71
Thank you for reading.
Side Note:
Oh, and I am not interested in getting into a great taste / less filling type debate over this either. If you feel I have made an error and can convince me of it, please by all means tell me intelligently and with kindness and respect. Also, if you don't explain yourself properly, or misunderstand me (constantly), or have no interest in backing up your debate with searchable sources, please don't reply or know that I might put my "shields up and ignore all hails" function on you.
Frankly that is the mouth full that says it all.
Saquist:
Thank you for the kind words. I am honored and glad you liked my argument. I hope folks are open minded enough (like you) to take it for what it is and not what they wish it to be.
Again thank you, man.
King Daniel:
Yeah, this is true; I just learned that even the animated series is considered canon, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_The_Animated_Series#Canon_issues
Yeah, a lot of Trek mistakes can be easily explained, especially when things can change with the passage of time.
However, there are some Trek mistakes shown on those YouTube videos that I had a hard time explaining, though. But none the less, I came up with some excuses for them, anyways.
Problem #1:
Troi says she never kissed Riker with a beard before in Insurrection. Yet we see through out the TNG series that she has done this numerous times.
Solution #1:
The anti aging factor that was effecting the crew within this region of space could have had some unseen side effects. Memory loss must have been one of them.
Problem #2:
Spock tells Uhura that Vulcan has no moon. Yet, later in other on screen Trek, we see that Vulcan does in fact have a moon.
Solution #2:
It is possible that the Vulcans created an artificial secret moon to orbit their planet for planetary defense purposes or something.
Problem #3:
Harry Kim says that Warp 10 is theoretically impossible. Yet, Picard broke the Warp 10 barrier in a TNG episode.
Solution #3:
It is possible that Picard's Warp 10 mission was classified by Starfleet for some reason. So Harry Kim wouldn't be aware of Picard's particular Warp 10 mission.
Problem #4:
Curzon Dax dies on the operating table when transferring his symbiont to Jadzia Dax. However, later we discover that Arandis, one of Curzon Dax's old lovers ended up sending him to his death during Jamaharon (Sex).
Solution #4:
It is possible that Curzon died twice. People have been known many times through out history to die and later come back from the dead miraculously.
Notable Mistakes That Are Not Mentioned:
Problem #5:
How come Kirk and crew keep running into Earth related type planets? It seems highly unlikely that they would keep running into their own kind all the time.
Solution: #5:
It is possible that a powerful being like the Q was guiding the Enterprise crew to find Earth related planets to help man grow stronger within the galaxy.
Problem #6:
Why did Janeway and Paris turn into lizards when they traveled at Warp 10 and Picard and crew didn't?
Solution #6:
It is obvious Q or some other intelligent species was secretly playing a practical joke on the Voyager crew or something.
Problem #7:
Why did Picard disobey orders to protect the Baku to stay on their planet and yet didn't disobey orders to protect the Maquis to stay on their world?
Solution #7:
The anti aging factor that was effecting the crew within this region of space could have had some unseen side effects. Rebellion of youth must have been one of them.
Laser Beam:
Yes, I remember the ring ship in those episodes.
Side Note:
In fact, speaking of the ring ship: I would like to further add again for the record that the Enterprise ring ship was never classified as a "starship", too. For all we know they could have been called "ring ships" and not "starships". Sure, you can assume that the ring ship Enterprise went by the name of a "starship". But in all actuality we really don't know that. We only seen it in photographs.
Hartzilla:
Yeah, they didn't recognize the similarities to Vulcans with these Romulans because they had shaved heads and tattoos all over their face. In other words, their visage was not so easily recognizable or apparent. So they were not surprised when they seen them.
At least that's my 2 cents worth, anyways.
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The only rule for a prequel is that it should be set in the prior to the previous story.
And lets not pretend that the Borg and the Ferengi turned up every week. Those were two episodes out of about 80. Klingons and Romulans are classic Trek villain who are just as at home in the 22nd Century as they are in the 23rd and 24th, so they are more than "welcome" in a prequel. Heck,the timeframe pretty much begs for the Romulans to be used. Of course then there are the complaints that ENT used too many unfamiliar aliens. Kobayashi Maru
Enterprise is about setting up the chess board not inventing a new game. As such, it gave us the foundings of what would become the UFP. The first meetings between Humans and both the Andorians and the Klingons. The incidents that would spark the Earth Romulan War. Also the beginnings of the rocky relationship between the Klingons and Earth and its allies. It even answered the Klingon forehead question.
As for the tech is wasn't that "safe". The transporter was a secondary form of transportation. The show used shuttles more often. The hull plating was a different type of tech than sheilds. (even if it used same "lingo") They weren't going to have the Enterprise be a 21st Century ship with Zero G, armor plating, nuclear engines and projectile weapons.
As a said in my previous post calling the raygun something other than a "phase pistol" won't change that its a raygun. Making the SFX a burst instead of a beam wont change that either. Having "futuristic" comm devices that looks more primitive than a 21st Century cellphone is gonna cause more eyerolls than it not look like a precursor to a TOS communicator.
No one is going to do a Trek show with out certain touchstones. No one is going to do a new Star Trek show with out any connections to the previous show. That would be Star Trek in name only.
Exactly we dont know one way or the other. Starship is a loosely applied term anyway. Sometimes it a specific class of ships, sometimes its all ships that travel beween stars and some times it just UFP ships. Memory Alpha calls the ringship a starship. (for what thats worth)
The thing about Romulans in ST XI is one way that continuity has definitely been changed. In TOS, nobody knew about the Romulan/Vulcan connection until 2266 (the events of "Balance of Terror"). The Abramsverse, OTOH, does away with that, because 'first contact' with the Romulans - specifically, Nero and crew - occurred in 2233.
Yeah, but Robau and the gang didn't really know that those were Romulans, did they? As far as they could tell, they were attacked by a bunch of pointed eared space pirates. For all they knew, those could have been the V'tosh ka'tur or something.
Nerys:
Yeah, as I stated before: Memory Alpha lists the ring ship as a starship only because it was listed in the Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture book that it was a starship. However, the studio has not made any official statements that either this book or anything Memory Alpha writes about (outside of onscreen Trek) is to be considered canon, though.
Also, you can't assume that the word "starship" applies to every picture of a space faring vessel either. Obviously we don't call our space shuttles starships or anything.
As for the Scotty issue: I partly would agree with you on that. It is a really good theory. In fact, I commend you for coming up with it. The computer can locate various individuals when asked to do so. However, there has been no indication to my knowledge that the holodeck computer scans the individual's identity before running a certain program, though. If there is, please let me know which episode or episodes you are referring to.
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Its unlikely that the studio will. They dont deal in minutiae, just the big picture. (Series and movies). We can only be 100% sure if it comes up in a movie or episode. Memory Alpha deals mostly with canon, when they include non-canon they say so. (Also there is Memory Beta which is only about the books.) My point though, was that "starship" in Trek terms is any starfaring space ship, so the Ringship should qualify under those terms.
As for the computer. In Star Trek there is only one. The one that tracks each crewmember is the same one that runs the holodeck. So when someone walks up and asks for a holo re-creation of "my ship" the computer knows who that person is and which ships might be theirs. IIRC usually when running a holodeck program you dont identify yourself, you just ask for the program.
Its "Run Luther Sloan program 11B" or "Run Vic's Place circa 1960". not "This is Admiral Nerys Myk, run Nerys Myk program 33E"
If it had no idea who Scotty was, it would have asked for his name before asking to clarify which ship.
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Don't take this the wrong way: But I'm just curious. Have you ever lost an argument before or conceded to someone in a debate on a forum?
If so, I would love to see it.
If so, I would love to see it.
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Yes, I do it all the time. When I'm wrong I admit it. Last time was in the STXI forum. I forget the exact details, but I was wrong. Saw something that wasn't there and came back to admit it. ETA: It was a shot of the Enterprise in the debris field. Looked to me like a ship was busting up under the Enterprise's shields, when it was actually the E being torn appart.
Not sure there is a right or wrong in what we are currently discussing. It's a matter of interpretation or in some cases re-interpretation of what was presented. Its not a case of calling something black, white. Or calling a cow a horse.
King Daniel:
Well, said. I actually couldn't have said it better myself. In fact, someone basically said before that people write or speak from the heart. In other words, they are essentially ruled by their emotions and make decisions based on the facts (or canon) they wish to see and create their own personal "vision" on things.
And if there is one show that is open to differing opinion or "vision" it is definitely Star Trek: Enterprise.
Here are my personal heart felt motivations on Trek:
1. I love the other Trek series more than Enterprise. But can still enjoy watching the show on occasion as mindless entertainment.
2. I love perfection in things. In other words: I love it when things make sense within Star Trek. So all canon is important to me.
3. I love the satisfaction in following the truth of things and what things really mean in life. If I can avoid coming up with an explanation that sounds too far fetched for a particular problem within a Trek series or film, I will try to avoid it.
4. I love Star Trek as a whole. It has had some wondrous moral lessons, pick me ups, and valuable information that I will forever cherish.
5. I love to challenge my creativity. So yes. I do realize there are mistakes that are just plain mistakes within Trek. But part of the fun for me is even explaining the stupidity sometimes in order to challenge my mind.
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Your argument does NOT make sense.
If it knows who Scotty is, and makes a judgment, it would only have asked:
NCC 1701
NCC 1701-A
NCC 1701-B
It would "know", from your theory, that he was gone by C and D. And it would actullay know he never 'served' on B.
"See, it knows Scotty! So that's why it didn't bring up the NX!" doesn't make sense. It fails as an argument device.
"See, it knows Scotty! It's smart! That's why it gives him 3 starships he never served on!"
You can't hold up the computer as that smart and have it both ways.
Fail as a fandom manuvere.
"...told me you could show me my ship. So show me."
<Please specifiy>
"...the Enterprise! show me the bridge of the Enterprise!"
<There have been 5 federation...>
"NCC 1701. No bloody..."
It didn't go
"...told me you could show me my ship. So show me."
<Working. Which ship - 1701 or 1701-A>
Well that is a quandry, I guess the computer isn't as smart as I thought. Or the writers liked the line better with 5 ships instead of 3. Still why would the computer include the NX-01 in the list? It seems limited to Federation ships.
For some reason it excludes all non Federation ships and pre-Federation ships. (Again no ringship)
So I'll have to conceed that knowing Scotty's service history may not the reason it didn't include the NX-01, but instead the reason is the computer's Enterprise list is limited to Federation ships.
Nerys:
You make it sound like I don't believe this. I was pointing that fact out!
Memory Alpha does deal with mostly canon. But it doesn't always site it's reference or terminology it uses to describe things as being canon or not. In fact, if you were to look at the USS Enterprise ring ship page you would see that it doesn't officially state that the ring ship was ever stated within the onscreen series or films as being a starship.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(XCV_330)
Keywords here, just in case it doesn't sink in:
"Onscreen Appearances Are The Only Valid Points of Discussion For Star Trek Being Canon"
In other words: if you are to use any other source OTHER than the series or films: Your arguments or debates are mute.
So if you reply back with anything other than using an onscreen example as your basis for your argument... I am going to say...
"Irrelevant - Non Canon!"
Yes, you can believe that. But there is still no proof in the onscreen series that supports the belief that the ring ship actually had an official onscreen classification. I mean it could have been named "star cruiser" for all we know. The point is we don't know unless the series or films tell us. Not some website or book or assumed terminology.
But as I stated before. There is no evidence that the ring ship was ever classified as being a starship. I mean, you wouldn't include the space shuttle named Enterprise under the classification of being a starship now would you? Although if we didn't know that it was a space shuttle, I suppose you would just assume it was another starship or something, right?
...Or maybe there were only 5 starships by that name at the time as the episode originally meant it to be (when it aired).
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Sorry I guess I misinterpreted what you meant by " the studio has not made any statements ."
All I'm saying is that by extention the term can be applied to the Ringship because is has been extended on screen to other ships. Such as the 22nd Century ship the Archon. Memory Alpha covers how they've ( the show runners) expanded this
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