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Volcanic ash cloud cripples Britain, apparently...

Zulu Romeo

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... and it's all Iceland's fault. I guess it's their revenge for us hating LazyTown.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8622978.stm

Air traffic has been severely disrupted across northern Europe by volcanic ash drifting south and east from Iceland.

Airspace was closed or flights cancelled in countries including the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and France.

The ash, which could damage plane engines, came from a volcanic eruption in the south-west of Iceland.

The volcano was still emitting ash on Thursday afternoon, and the flight problems could continue for 48 hours.

By Thursday afternoon, the UK had shut its airspace and other countries were in the process of following suit.

So much for my plan to escape to America.... :(
 
It was really funny how all the news correspondants were delivering reports about the dangerous cloud of ash that has brought the UK's air travel industry to a standstill, whilst you could see the clear blue skies in the background.
 
Someone correct my ignorance here, but I heard on the news an anchor say why everybody's question of "Why don't we jsut fly around it?" was because the radar can't detect the cloud or some such, and here I am thinking: what's that BIG FUCKING WINDOW the pilots have in front of them for? You can't see the BIG FUCKING CLOUD of smoke and FLY AROUND it? The volcanic ash particles that would get sucked in, aren't EVERYwhere -- other countries are still flying nearby.
 
The plume is in the stratosphere and is comprised of basically dust-sized particles/aerosols which aren't obvious to the naked eye (why the sky is blue), but might cause trouble to an airplane engine. Its still volcanic material that can melt in an engine, so, I would rather they are more cautious than careless.
 
I don't understand why they just don't fly lower. I saw a program about it and they didn't know what the problem was with the engines, however after <8,000 feet the engines would start back up.

Obviously you can't fly 8,000 near mountains, but over the ocean should be fine.
 
It takes a hell of a lot more fuel for jets to fly lower than 8000 feet due to the atmosphere being a lot denser than at 55,000 feet.
 
Perhaps it's Sir Oliver Lindenbrook's party returning from the center of the Earth.
 
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Global cooling: What happens if the Iceland volcano blows

The potential eruption of Iceland's volcano Katla would likely send the world, including the USA, into an extended deep freeze.

"When Katla went off in the 1700s, the USA suffered a very cold winter," says Gary Hufford, a scientist with the Alaska Region of the National Weather Service. "To the point, the Mississippi River froze just north of New Orleans and the East Coast, especially New England, had an extremely cold winter.

"Depending on a new eruption, Katla could cause some serious weather changes."

Eyjafjallajokull, the Icelandic volcano that has continued to belch lava, ash and steam since first erupting last weekend, isn't the direct problem. It's Katla, the noisier neighbor, that's the concern. If lava flowing from Eyjafjallajokull melts the glaciers that hold down the top of Katla, then Katla could blow its top, pumping gigantic amounts of ash into the atmosphere.

Scientists say history has proven that whenever the Eyjafjallajokull volcano erupts, Katla always follows -- the only question is how soon.

"If it (Eyjafjallajokull) continues to belch, then you worry," says Hufford.

What's key in having volcanic eruptions affect the weather is both the duration of the eruption, and how high the ash gets blasted into the stratosphere, according to Hufford.

For example, he says, Mount Pinatubo pumped ash for two days in 1991, and spewed it 70,000 feet into the stratosphere. This dropped temperatures worldwide about four degrees for about a year.

"When volcanic ash reaches the stratosphere, it remains for a long time," reports Hufford. "The ash becomes a very effective block of the incoming solar radiation, thus cooling the atmosphere's temperatures."...


 
Someone correct my ignorance here, but I heard on the news an anchor say why everybody's question of "Why don't we jsut fly around it?" was because the radar can't detect the cloud or some such, and here I am thinking: what's that BIG FUCKING WINDOW the pilots have in front of them for? You can't see the BIG FUCKING CLOUD of smoke and FLY AROUND it? The volcanic ash particles that would get sucked in, aren't EVERYwhere -- other countries are still flying nearby.

because you might not be able to tell what's a BIG FUCKING CLOUD OF ASH AND SHIT and what's just a big fucking cloud of water vapour. plus, when the thing is literally miles wide, flying around would take more time and fuel.
 
Tomorrow, I and a bunch of friends living all over Europe (Italy, England, Greece, Norway) will fly to Barcelona to celebrate the stag party for one of us. Timing could have been... better. :shifty:
 
.Global cooling: What happens if the Iceland volcano blows

The potential eruption of Iceland's volcano Katla would likely send the world, including the USA, into an extended deep freeze.

"When Katla went off in the 1700s, the USA suffered a very cold winter," says Gary Hufford, a scientist with the Alaska Region of the National Weather Service. "To the point, the Mississippi River froze just north of New Orleans and the East Coast, especially New England, had an extremely cold winter.

It's a good thing we are both well stocked up on food and other survival essentials. :shifty:
 
Someone correct my ignorance here, but I heard on the news an anchor say why everybody's question of "Why don't we jsut fly around it?" was because the radar can't detect the cloud or some such, and here I am thinking: what's that BIG FUCKING WINDOW the pilots have in front of them for? You can't see the BIG FUCKING CLOUD of smoke and FLY AROUND it? The volcanic ash particles that would get sucked in, aren't EVERYwhere -- other countries are still flying nearby.



It's not visible. Other countries have grounded their aeroplanes today as the cloud has reached Europe. Also, how can someone get quite so angry from a position of quite such startling ignorance?
 
It was really funny how all the news correspondants were delivering reports about the dangerous cloud of ash that has brought the UK's air travel industry to a standstill, whilst you could see the clear blue skies in the background.

What was even funny was the reporter standing in front of the erupting cloud telling us how the black cloud of death will affect us personally.:lol:
 
Wait, LazyTown is from Iceland? Thank you. That explains it.

Lazytown has hidden depths....I think...

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