Humble or Arrogant ~ How do you see yourself?

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Being a social phobic with serious self-esteem issues I would say I am humble but I'd probably be really surprised at the number of other people who would say I am very arrogant. I think a lot of times in the past people have probably seen me as an inflexible know-it-all who thinks he is right about everything and his way is always best. I have even had my therapists tell me I refuse to get better because I don't want to admit that I am wrong and other people might be right. Ther might be some truth to that.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

So from Zee's 'like and dislike' thread and scottydogs interesting observation, How do you see yourself ~ Humble or Arrogant?

Myself I would like to think of as humble ~ but in a 'Jeeves' kind of fashion.

And it would be fun ~ and evil , to see what you think of other posters.

For me:

Humble:

JustKate,
Trampledamage,
Zee,
Yeoman Randi,
RJD.
jamestyler.

Arrogant:
~ in a good way (not that being humble is bad! But being a little more 'say what you want way ~ Oh shit this is going to go way wrong but anyway...):

Holdfast,
Jadzia,
JuanBolio,
Iguana_tonante,
and most from TNZ which is why I stay in Misc.

you all!

K'Eh ~ out of her head on painkillers and Baileys

So come on ~ name and shame

Wait, trampledamage and RJ humble? I thought being an arrogant **** was required for moderator-ship.

 

[Jetfire]

I voted, You tell me!

 

[K'Ehleyr]

Being arrogant is something that I very much need to work on.

But do you want to be thought of as arrogant ~ that is the question?

I voted "arrogant" without even the need to see the first post... and it turns out I was right!

For me:

Arrogant:
~ in a good way (not that being humble is bad! But being a little more 'say what you want way ~ Oh shit this is going to go way wrong but anyway...):

[other names withheld for security reasons]
Iguana_tonante,
and most from TNZ which is why I stay in Misc.

You are absolutely correct, darling. As I'm fond of saying, my ego is the size of a gas giant: several small moons could orbit around it.

I like however to think that I am poised: only insecure people are afraid to admit it when they are wrong. I am secure enough to own my mistakes, and apologize for my misbehaviours, yet never doubt about myself.

I like the definition I've read somewhere: I always think I'm right, but I know I'm not right always.

I have no right to give myself a label. All that matters is what everyone else thinks I am.

Wrong. All that matters is what you think you are. O wait, that's me being arrogant again.

I stopped reading after you said darling...
But *shakes her head* ~ if you are not right in a situation do you admit it?

And MLB ~ I love you humble or arrogant.

How dare you question my humbleness!

(raises chin in the air, gives a "humph", and storms off on high horse)

Would it be arrogant to say it would sound better if "you galloped off on an 18 hand high stallion"

Being a social phobic with serious self-esteem issues I would say I am humble but I'd probably be really surprised at the number of other people who would say I am very arrogant. I think a lot of times in the past people have probably seen me as an inflexible know-it-all who thinks he is right about everything and his way is always best. I have even had my therapists tell me I refuse to get better because I don't want to admit that I am wrong and other people might be right. Ther might be some truth to that.

Listen to yourself there!

So from Zee's 'like and dislike' thread and scottydogs interesting observation, How do you see yourself ~ Humble or Arrogant?

Myself I would like to think of as humble ~ but in a 'Jeeves' kind of fashion.

And it would be fun ~ and evil , to see what you think of other posters.

For me:

Humble:

JustKate,
Trampledamage,
Zee,
Yeoman Randi,
RJD.
jamestyler.

Arrogant:
~ in a good way (not that being humble is bad! But being a little more 'say what you want way ~ Oh shit this is going to go way wrong but anyway...):

Holdfast,
Jadzia,
JuanBolio,
Iguana_tonante,
and most from TNZ which is why I stay in Misc.

you all!

K'Eh ~ out of her head on painkillers and Baileys

So come on ~ name and shame

Wait, trampledamage and RJ humble? I thought being an arrogant **** was required for moderator-ship.

I'm so pleading the 5th on that

 

[RJDiogenes]

Wait, trampledamage and RJ humble? I thought being an arrogant **** was required for moderator-ship.

You need more asterisks there.

Humble:
RJD.

Thank you very much. I take that as a compliment. In reality, I think I'm probably a mixture of both, although I don't know if I'd actually use the word 'arrogant' to describe myself (although I'll bet some others would ). I've certainly got a strong ego and I'm fully aware of my intelligence and knowledge and talent. Yet I'm also fully aware that, like everybody else, the things I can't do vastly outnumber the things I can do. And I'm also fully aware, and appreciate, the gifts and talents of others-- in fact, I take great pleasure in the gifts and talents of others. And I always try to be respectful of others even when we disagree (unless, y'know, they're scum ). So I'm humble, but not to the extent of diminishing myself.

As for naming others-- I've never thought about this. I'll have to mull it over.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I like however to think that I am poised: only insecure people are afraid to admit it when they are wrong. I am secure enough to own my mistakes, and apologize for my misbehaviours, yet never doubt about myself.

I like the definition I've read somewhere: I always think I'm right, but I know I'm not right always.

But *shakes her head* ~ if you are not right in a situation do you admit it?

Well, I am very, very rarely wrong, of course.

But if I am presented with enough evidences that my position is incorrect, I am more than willing to admit I was wrong and change my mind on the subject. Actually, I would consider it a point of honor not to cling to factually incorrect assumptions. In the rare instances my ass is soundly kicked and I am put to my place, I will surely remember it.

Same with my misbehaviours: if I'm convinced I've caused undeserved distress to somebody, I will apologize and try to make up for it. I like to think of myself as combative but fair.

Obviously, the issue is somewhat muddled by the fact that it will be me making the call about my past mistakes.

So... yeah. I admit it when I am wrong, but people have to come with pretty good reasons to convince me of that.

 

[K'Ehleyr]

Thank you very much. I take that as a compliment. In reality, I think I'm probably a mixture of both...
...As for naming others-- I've never thought about this. I'll have to mull it over.

You are welcome RJ ~ it was meant so.
But you are right ~ I think we are all a mix of the both and so should be. There are times to stand up and times to sit down, it's making sure we get the timing right that is crucial!

I like however to think that I am poised: only insecure people are afraid to admit it when they are wrong. I am secure enough to own my mistakes, and apologize for my misbehaviours, yet never doubt about myself.

I like the definition I've read somewhere: I always think I'm right, but I know I'm not right always.

But *shakes her head* ~ if you are not right in a situation do you admit it?

Well, I am very, very rarely wrong, of course.

But if I am presented with enough evidences that my position is incorrect, I am more than willing to admit I was wrong and change my mind on the subject. Actually, I would consider it a point of honor not to cling to factually incorrect assumptions. In the rare instances my ass is soundly kicked and I am put to my place, I will surely remember it.

Same with my misbehaviours: if I'm convinced I've caused undeserved distress to somebody, I will apologize and try to make up for it. I like to think of myself as combative but fair.

Obviously, the issue is somewhat muddled by the fact that it will be me making the call about my past mistakes.

So... yeah. I admit it when I am wrong, but people have to come with pretty good reasons to convince me of that.

As the quote goes ~ "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." Abe Lincoln.

"It takes a big man to stand up and admit to his mistakes and he should be admired more for it." Quote K'Ehleyr

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Wait, trampledamage and RJ humble? I thought being an arrogant **** was required for moderator-ship.

You need more asterisks there. .

I originally had less asterisks and more letters, but hey there's no reason for me to be rude.

 

[Michael Chris]

Being arrogant is something that I very much need to work on.

But do you want to be thought of as arrogant ~ that is the question?

I would like to be thought of as humble, but I would like that to be based on the truth. Which, in truth, is something that I often fail to be. So, I would like people to see me as I truly am. All my failures included!

 

[tkron]

I voted for "It depends on the situation." It's mostly a matter of knowing what I can or can't do. Of course, people can't always tell the difference between the "arrogant" me and the "P.O'ed" me...Usually because I'm blowing up at them for not understanding something that seems pretty basic to me.

 

[Colonel Green]

I have no right to give myself a label. All that matters is what everyone else thinks I am.

I think you're... *edit* ...oh wait, this isn't TNZ, is it?

 

[Bisz]

Depends entierly on the situation.

In most serious situations I'm quite humble, in less serious situations I can be quite arrogant.

Then of course there is my extreme false arrogance which I put on for a good laugh at work.

 

[Shaw]

Well, I have opinions I'll defend and only back down if shown that I'm wrong... but I surely don't expect (or want) others to follow my opinions (unless they see something about the opinion itself that they like). More importantly, if I don't think what I might have to say is defendable or well supported, I generally won't say anything at all. I read tons of threads but only post in the smallest fraction of them because I doubt I have anything worth contributing (and in some cases will stay out unless specifically referred to or invited to offer input).

Generally I shy away from attention (which is why I don't post a lot), and preys of the things that I have done is sometimes hard to accept (I generally believe that if I can do something then everyone can).

It is funny in that I'm usually the shy guy in the back of a crowd, but because of how forums work (where the only time you are seen is when you are front and center) I'm pretty sure that most people either don't see me or don't see me that way.

In the real world I've been told that I'm humble to a fault (and that it is the thing holding me back the most). Online, people who know me also see that, but those who don't know me most likely see me as arrogant. Not everyone can get to know you that well online (and I'm not sure I'd want everyone to know me that well anyways), so I accept that as part of online life.

 

[Kestra]

I pretend to be humble but let's face it, I'm fucking awesome.

Actually anytime I get something nearing confidence, I worry that I'll become arrogant, and I quickly compensate with more negative self-esteem. Arrogance is one trait that really quickly turns me off to people quickly, perhaps too quickly.

 

[Punky]

I am humbly arrogant

 

[Daneel]

I think most people are a bit of both... one more so than the other, often times, but there are usually hints of both.

I myself would say I'm very humble most of the time. I like to think I'm polite and respectful, someone who lets everyone have their say (unless, of course, what they have to say is flagrantly stupid).

However, I would be lying if I said I never think, "I can __________ so much better than everyone else". Or that even though I try to show respect for everyone's point of view, I secretly always think that mine is obviously the most sensible and everyone else is just crazy.

 

[Shaw]

I pretend to be humble but let's face it, I'm fucking awesome.

I always thought you were awesome... but of course I'd never say it publicly.

 

[T'Girl]

Arrogant
I've been told I'm driven and I see myself be pushy at times.
But being laid back doesn't seem to work in my case.
When I kick back I start to fidget. (alcohol helps)

Humble
Working on a metaphor, give me a minute okay?

 

[Eyes]

Well, I've noticed I tend to be humble quite a lot on here and in real life, but I'm perfectly capable of being arrogant when I feel I have the right to.

Actually quite a lot of the time I'm probably too humble, bordering shy, and when I try to be arrogant, I end up being rude, so I'm never exactly sure which is the right path to take...

 

[Jadzia]

Arrogant:
Holdfast,
Jadzia,
JuanBolio,
Iguana_tonante,

Be careful to not mistake my self confidence for arrogance
Couple with this the fact that I'm able to make considered judgments at light speed.


But honestly, when I express myself, I believe in what I say. If I see opportunity for error, then I'll deliberately use words like 'maybe' and 'perhaps'. If I'm shown to be wrong then I'll be quick to retract the words I've spoken. Most often I'm keen to take a multilateral perspective of things, considering all possible views at once. But I certainly wouldn't defend a false claim just to create an illusion of infallibility.

But like iguana, I am rarely wrong.

Also I'd like to say that iguana and holdfast are two of my favourite posters on this board. I like their self confidence. I like the boldness with which they express themselves. As I enjoy their intellect. I'm honored that you rank me alongside them, Kehleyr.