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Lost 6x05: "Lighthouse"

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Well, she's not exactly the epitome of clear thinking, so I'll stick by the notion that they are the same. But you have to wonder... Christian says Jack has a lot of work to do. Jacob said something somewhat similar in this episode.
Are you talking about the LOST: MISSING PIECES episode where Christian is talking to Vincent? Is that even really canon? (God, I hate using the c word.)
 
I finally saw it.

Excellent! The best so far. :)

Ok, Claire has become one scary chick.
 
Are you talking about the LOST: MISSING PIECES episode where Christian is talking to Vincent? Is that even really canon? (God, I hate using the c word.)

Hmm, I suppose I might be. I'd guess it's official until the regular episodes say otherwise. I mean, it was produced by the same total crew, so I'm not sure why it wouldn't be unless they changed their minds.

Lostpedia seems to say it's "canonical."

I'd prefer they don't rely on those for any kind of real explanation, but for this particular piece of speculation I don't mind. Like, I hate how people cite the Valenzetti equation as some sort of CASE SOLVED when it comes to the numbers, but I just don't feel like it's a satisfactory explanation. All the real solutions to the main mysteries should be within the show itself, and not the extras.
 
Are you talking about the LOST: MISSING PIECES episode where Christian is talking to Vincent? Is that even really canon? (God, I hate using the c word.)

Hmm, I suppose I might be. I'd guess it's official until the regular episodes say otherwise. I mean, it was produced by the same total crew, so I'm not sure why it wouldn't be unless they changed their minds.

Lostpedia seems to say it's "canonical."

I'd prefer they don't rely on those for any kind of real explanation, but for this particular piece of speculation I don't mind. Like, I hate how people cite the Valenzetti equation as some sort of CASE SOLVED when it comes to the numbers, but I just don't feel like it's a satisfactory explanation. All the real solutions to the main mysteries should be within the show itself, and not the extras.
The MISSING PIECES were kinda cool, but some pieces didn't quite fit. Like when Juliet appeared to Michael in her nice clean New Otherton clothes instead of her dingy castaway clothes. At the time Michael supposedly thought they all lives in huts and tents and were worse off than the Lost castaways. All of a sudden Juliet pops in looking like she just stepped off a cruise ship and Michael doesn't even ask her where she came from or why she doesn't look like the others.
 
I'm giving his an excellent. Some points:

- Claire's subtly insane performance was brilliant.

- Does Jin know that the real Locke is supposed to be dead ? I can't remember.

- A positive portrayal of fatherhood on this show for the first time since Michael and Walt were both on the show (and we know how that turned out).

- Jack's not going to react well when he finds that Jacob is still pushing him around through Hurley.
 
Does Jin know that the real Locke is supposed to be dead ? I can't remember.
I'm sure Jack and co. told him when they arrived in 1977. I remember Jack telling Sawyer, but I don't remember if Jin was right there or not. Either way, yeah, I'm sure he knows.
 
Yah, we've never seen an point where jack & co. filled Sawyer, Jin & Miles in on what happened to them off the island, but I guess we can assume they did. Jin did know that Kate took Aaron and raised him, even though we never saw kate telling him that.
 
Yah, we've never seen an point where jack & co. filled Sawyer, Jin & Miles in on what happened to them off the island, but I guess we can assume they did. Jin did know that Kate took Aaron and raised him, even though we never saw kate telling him that.
No, we did see Jack tell Sawyer that John was dead. It was either right before that or right after that that Jin took a van and went frantically searching for Sun.
 
Good episode, but nothing special. The return of Claire was great! Is it wrong that creepy, nutty Claire turns me on? :o

I actually enjoyed Jack for the first time since...well, shit, since Boone died. Perhaps the writers are going to pull an Amber on me (character from House who I originally loathed but ended up loving by the time of her final episode).

Heh, I just realized something. Back when Season One first started we all thought the Losties would separate into "good" and "evil" groups led by Jack and Locke. It seemed to be happening when Jack went to the caves and Locke stayed on the beach. It seemed like it was going to be The Stand. Now... Jack is in charge of the good group and "Locke" is in charge of the bad group! We're going back to The Stand after all!
Which isn't entirely surprising considering Lindelof and Cuse have stated many time times The Stand is one of several inspirations for the show. Hm...The Man in Black is a bit like Randall Flagg, come to think of it...

^^I'd like to see it be Desmond, Widmore, and/or Walt. All three would be awesome.
I think it should be all three of them. They all have unresolved stories and they would make an interesting group.

Anyone notice Sayid's accent is considerably different? I wonder if that's just Naveen Andrews or some sort of clue about how he's different?
I didn't really notice the accent change, but I have noticed Sayid's demeanor has been much softer since his revival. Old Sayid would be a lot more aggressive if he felt threatened.

Last time we saw Desmond in "our" timeline was in the hospital, recovering from Ben shooting him. I do suspect that the Desmond on the plane we saw in the premier is actually "our" Desmond who is reality jumping. We'll see the whole thing on the plane later on from his point of view and find out what he was really up to.
I really hope this is true. I think this would be quite interesting and a nice twist to his introduction. I also hope we haven't seen the last of Mrs. Hawking.

Nice eerie touch with Shannon's inhaler.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. It actually makes me excited to see her return. Wow. I never thought I would ever say that! :lol:
 
I thought his episode was really good. I liked all the stuff with Jack. The scenes with caves brought back memories. Remember when this show as just about the characters trying to find water to survive? It looks like Claire will be getting a good storyline this season with her being a little crazy. :lol:

Nice to see Jacob again.
 
I feel like this episode kind of indirectly confirms that maybe (e)Locke is lying about the caves. Caves belong to Evil Locke, and the Lighthouse is Jacob's. There's also the conspicuous-ness of no Kate on the cave wall but she was on Jacob's wheel.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume one is good and the other is evil.
 
I thought his episode was really good. I liked all the stuff with Jack. The scenes with caves brought back memories. Remember when this show as just about the characters trying to find water to survive?
I was thinking the same thing. Rewatching the pilot is really funny...the weirdest thing is the polar bear. It wasn't even a time-traveling alternate reality polar from a mysterious hatch!
 
I have another question that maybe someone can answer:

Did Claire time shift? Did the others in the temple?

She seemed to indicate that Jin and the oceanic crew just disappeared. But if she stayed in time, what made her different? Why did people like Rose and Bernard time shift and not her or the others?

If she did shift and so did the others, then what the heck? That would've cause some massive confusion, I'd imagine.
 
^I don't think she did. She seems to think she's been largely been alone for three years, and everyone left her.
 
It didn't even cross my mind that other people were through time, but I guess they should have been... :confused:
 
Perhaps it has to do with how recently any given person has been exposed to the outside world? I dunno, grasping at straws here. I did think it was interesting that Daniel said Charlotte's body "kept going" while the rest of them "stayed behind", implying that something is continually jumping through time, and if you're attuned to it the right way, you can get swept along.
 
Maybe it's something the "candidates" do. If you're still a candidate, you go wherever/whenever the island goes. If you're no longer a candidate, you get left behind.
 
But WHY?! :eek:

Who do we know who definitely time travelled ?

Sawyer, Jin, Juliet, Locke, Miles, Faraday, Charlotte, Froghurt and a number of other survivors were "unstuck" while still on the island.

The rest of the Island's inhabitants were apparently unaffected.

Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Sayid and Ben did not time travel as they had left the island before it "moved".

Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid did time travel when their Ajira flight back to the Island crashed. However, the rest of the passengers, including Ben, Sun and Locke's corpse did not.

Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Hurley, Jin and Juliette all time travelled for a final time back to what they would consider the present day (i.e. the same time as Ben and Sun) when the nuke went off.

I don't believe it's related to candidate status. Kate is not a candidate but did time travel and there are many names on the list who remained static.

My immediate guess is that either Jacob or The Man in Black simply chose who would time travel and who would not.
 
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