Captain America Takes on the "Tea Party"

[Mistral]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129

If I read this right, Marvel was trying to create a facsimile of a less-than-respectable fringe element and the "Tea Party" group identified with it too much. Hmm, what does that say about their status in our current society? I mean, if a Marvel employee just yanked some slogans off the Internet that sounded controversial to fill the spaces and the Tea Party was offended does that mean they know they are a negative impacting group-or were they just pissed that their slogans were used in that way? It was kind of hard to tell from the quotes.

 

[Trekker4747]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129

If I read this right, Marvel was trying to create a facsimile of a less-than-respectable fringe element and the "Tea Party" group identified with it too much. Hmm, what does that say about their status in our current society? I mean, if a Marvel employee just yanked some slogans off the Internet that sounded controversial to fill the spaces and the Tea Party was offended does that mean they know they are a negative impacting group-or were they just pissed that their slogans were used in that way? It was kind of hard to tell from the quotes.

From what I understand they simply just put in some "place holder signs" on the emoty signs in the comic book for some-klnd-of consistancy or something. Infact if you look at the signs in the comic panel you can planly see the typed-in text doesn't exactly match-up with the artwork. It looks typed in.

There was no intent to link the protesters in the panel to the Tea Partyers nor are the protesters in the group even linked to the bad guys The Cap is looking for other than both happening to be in the same area at the same time.

 

[mredom]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129

If I read this right, Marvel was trying to create a facsimile of a less-than-respectable fringe element and the "Tea Party" group identified with it too much. Hmm, what does that say about their status in our current society? I mean, if a Marvel employee just yanked some slogans off the Internet that sounded controversial to fill the spaces and the Tea Party was offended does that mean they know they are a negative impacting group-or were they just pissed that their slogans were used in that way? It was kind of hard to tell from the quotes.

From what I understand they simply just put in some "place holder signs" on the emoty signs in the comic book for some-klnd-of consistancy or something. Infact if you look at the signs in the comic panel you can planly see the typed-in text doesn't exactly match-up with the artwork. It looks typed in.

There was no intent to link the protesters in the panel to the Tea Partyers nor are the protesters in the group even linked to the bad guys The Cap is looking for other than both happening to be in the same area at the same time.

And what if there was? What if they were portraying the tea-bag movement in this light?

I personally think that most of the rhetoric I've seen from the average tea-bag interview would be almost to the level of a 7th grade understanding of a graduate level argument.

Someone want to crucify me for stating the obvious? How about the "tea-baggers" invest more intellectual effort in forming their opinions than listening to the over the top rants of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck.

Talk to me when you've developed some logical thought behind an opinion that doesn't start and end with vapid talk radio jargon.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm just sick to death of the demise of intellectual thought in the United States.

'nuff said

 

[Nowhere Man]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129

If I read this right, Marvel was trying to create a facsimile of a less-than-respectable fringe element and the "Tea Party" group identified with it too much. Hmm, what does that say about their status in our current society? I mean, if a Marvel employee just yanked some slogans off the Internet that sounded controversial to fill the spaces and the Tea Party was offended does that mean they know they are a negative impacting group-or were they just pissed that their slogans were used in that way? It was kind of hard to tell from the quotes.

Agreed, Marvel shouldn't have to apologize. It's up to free thingers such as writers to point out wrongs in society. What ever happened to the 1st. ammendment? The " Tea Party " claims to be all about preserving the Constitution, but when it comes down to it, Marvel has to apologize. Hipocrits.

 

[Davros]

there is no reason for Marvel to appologize. If people do not like what is in the book, nobody is forcing them to buy it so they have little to worry about.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Figures Joey Q would wimp out.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Brubaker posted on the day the issue came out that he hadn't seen the final art before that and wished it had been modified a bit (and he has in the past stated a preference for avoiding doing political stuff with Captain America).

I love the controversy for no other reason than I now own an issue of a "controversial" comic.

 

[Brikar99]

I personally think that most of the rhetoric I've seen from the average tea-bag interview would be almost to the level of a 7th grade understanding of a graduate level argument.

Someone want to crucify me for stating the obvious? How about the "tea-baggers" invest more intellectual effort in forming their opinions than listening to the over the top rants of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck.

Talk to me when you've developed some logical thought behind an opinion that doesn't start and end with vapid talk radio jargon.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm just sick to death of the demise of intellectual thought in the United States.

'nuff said

Well said.

 

[DarthPipes]

Captain America is turning into liberal propoganda. Great way to ruin a great comic...

 

[Captain Craig]

Sorry for the rant, but I'm just sick to death of the demise of intellectual thought in the United States.

What is interesting is that this opinion is usually stated when "X" just will not see it my way.

Opposite me = lack of intellectual thought

 

[AJBryant]

I so love the superior attitudes of the leftie.

Right on tune.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Captain America is turning into liberal propoganda. Great way to ruin a great comic...

Turning? Have you read Captain America in the oh....lets say, past 40 years?

 

[bigdaddy]

What I like about the tea baggers the most is the fact the only thing black they seem to like is their tea.

I'll be here all week! Thanks everyone!

And for the record only about 10% of the country are tea bag people, so be thankful for that. Sadly 97% of the country is still incredibly stupid.

 

[Sci]

I have yet to hear from a so-called "Tea Party" activist that wasn't a huge douchebag arguing for horrific policies, and a lot of them do strike me as being racist.

I have no sympathy for the Tea Party people if they felt like Captain America insulted them.

 

[Aaron McGuire]

Wow. Crazy people who believe crazy things say crazy things.

Film at 11.

Aaron McGuire

 

[Gojirob]

I personally think that most of the rhetoric I've seen from the average tea-bag interview would be almost to the level of a 7th grade understanding of a graduate level argument.

Someone want to crucify me for stating the obvious? How about the "tea-baggers" invest more intellectual effort in forming their opinions than listening to the over the top rants of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck.

Talk to me when you've developed some logical thought behind an opinion that doesn't start and end with vapid talk radio jargon.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm just sick to death of the demise of intellectual thought in the United States.

'nuff said

Well said.

Aw, now, you lissen up : Cause all I know is all I know, and that's all I know--Huh!--That's All I Know!!

For groups like the Tea Party to exist, they must be the persecuted, so they recycle crit against their stances as part of their world-view. I saw the leader of their convention on CNN, citing such 'facts' as Bush leaving with a 160B deficit (Sanchez moved hard on him, since it was 1.2 T) when it was inevitably asked where this group was when Bush was in, also running up the tab. He also repeated what many of the movement's leaders have said 'I've never seen/There aren't that many of *those signs*' at their rallies.

For their own sake, Marvel should have prolly used a pseudonym like 'The Bostonians', but as for the Tea Party--as ye distort, so shall ye be distorted. And to Captain Craig, I would counter that where an opposing POV has been arrived at through thought and philosophy, it won't be dismissed except at the dismissive one's peril. But the Tea-Baggers literally recite talkie-radiation rhetoric chapter and verse, even in longer live interviews. Their opinions seem not arrived at by them but dispensed for them.

We are asked to be not so quick in calling this entire movement fringe; that there are people with legit beefs and thought-out gripes that get ignored in favor of the Joker and other caricatures. But like Rowling's call for unity by the Sorting Hat and Lucas's 'heroes on both sides' the only faces we are ever offered as evidence are bigots and drones (though Rowling tried to catch up on that very late).

 

[Greg Cox]

Captain America is turning into liberal propoganda. Great way to ruin a great comic...

Captain America has been a liberal since he awoke from suspended animation back in the 60s. I remember when he used to fight evil oil companies (Roxxon!), white nationalists (The Sons of the Serpent!), and a thinly-disguised version of Richard Nixon (The Secret Empire!).

There's this perception that, since Cap wears a flag, he must be a conservative Republican, but he's been written as a FDR/JFK Democrat since at least the Steve Engelhart days . . . .

 

[Trekker4747]

Captain America is turning into liberal propoganda. Great way to ruin a great comic...

Captain America has been a liberal since he awoke from suspended animation back in the 60s. I remember when he used to fight evil oil companies (Roxxon!), white nationalists (The Sons of the Serpent!), and a thinly-disguised version of Richard Nixon (The Secret Empire!).

There's this perception that, since Cap wears a flag, he must be a conservative Republican, but he's been written as a FDR/JFK Democrat since at least the Steve Engelhart days . . . .

Can democrats not wear/love The Flag?

And wouldn't such a thing be a violation of The Flag anyway? Shouldn't Reps be pissed about that?

 

[Bad Bishop]

Congratulations, Marvel, for not knowing what will actually be printed on every page before issues leave the press. Way to go!

I would like to add that I never cared for the Falcon. He sounds like Al Sharpton with lame superpowers. Falcon only got into the Avengers because of Henry Gyrich's affirmative action program.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Congratulations, Marvel, for not knowing what will actually be printed on every page before issues leave the press. Way to go!

I would like to add that I never cared for the Falcon. He sounds like Al Sharpton with lame superpowers. He only got into the Avengers because of Henry Gyrich's affirmative action program.

*psst* Gyrich and the Falcon aren't real. It was probably the writer (Jim Shooter?) who added him.

Perhaps the Falcon has sounded like Al Sharpton in comics I havent read. I've no recollecton of him doing so. Flying's a pretty cool power. It's pretty common among the hero set. Having started reading the book when its title was Captain America and the Falcon. Sam Wilson will always be Cap's foremost partner.

So this hubub is about the placement of a piece of dialog? If the same dialog was placed on a different panel, there would have been no controversy?