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A Klingon Law Suit?

buckeyenation

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While watching The Enterprise Incident, it occurred to to me that The Klingons could have taken the Romulans to court over copyright violations. What, they ran out of ship designers on Romulus? Imagine if Court TV were still around to cover that trial...." We're outside the courthouse with attorneys for the Klingon Empire, who are now making a statement." The trial goes on until Romulan leadership agrees to pay punitive damamges to the Klingons. The tension of months of litigation would be played out on Star Trek:Attorney at Law.
 
While watching The Enterprise Incident, it occurred to to me that The Klingons could have taken the Romulans to court over copyright violations. What, they ran out of ship designers on Romulus? Imagine if Court TV were still around to cover that trial...." We're outside the courthouse with attorneys for the Klingon Empire, who are now making a statement." The trial goes on until Romulan leadership agrees to pay punitive damamges to the Klingons. The tension of months of litigation would be played out on Star Trek:Attorney at Law.

The Romualns bought the licensing rights.

beaker full of death said:
Seems to me the Klingons got even by stealing the Bird of Prey in the movies.

The Movie BOP was probably based on a Klingon design anyway.
 
Actually, it was just the designer's take on a hyper-steroidal TOS Romulan BoP with a Klingon boom and command pod grafted onto it. The end result does look awful Klingony, though--I just wish it didn't have the orange Romulan bird (or at least, the wings of said bird) painted on it.
 
Actually, it was just the designer's take on a hyper-steroidal TOS Romulan BoP with a Klingon boom and command pod grafted onto it. The end result does look awful Klingony, though--I just wish it didn't have the orange Romulan bird (or at least, the wings of said bird) painted on it.
I was thinking in-universe, actually.
 
With Spock's line about the Romulans now using ships of Klingon design, we naturally assumed there was some sort of agreement between the Romulans and the Klingons.
Actually, it was just the designer's take on a hyper-steroidal TOS Romulan BoP with a Klingon boom and command pod grafted onto it. The end result does look awful Klingony, though--I just wish it didn't have the orange Romulan bird (or at least, the wings of said bird) painted on it.
WTF?? No ship of that description appears in either the original episode or the remastered effects. The original ep had the Romulans using the stock Klingon ship with no modifications. In fact, that episode was the first appearance of the TOS Klingon cruiser, later dubbed the D7 in fanon.

In the remastered version, the new CGI shots show a standard Klingon ship with the Romulan bird pattern painted on its underside, as well as a digitally created Romulan Bird of Prey of “Balance of Terror” vintage.

http://trekmovie.com/2008/04/03/first-images-from-the-enterprise-incident/
 
Oddly enough, the Romulan ship in BOT was originally supposed to based on a stolen "Earth" design.

Pack o' thieves them Romulans!!!!
 
With Spock's line about the Romulans now using ships of Klingon design, we naturally assumed there was some sort of agreement between the Romulans and the Klingons.
Actually, it was just the designer's take on a hyper-steroidal TOS Romulan BoP with a Klingon boom and command pod grafted onto it. The end result does look awful Klingony, though--I just wish it didn't have the orange Romulan bird (or at least, the wings of said bird) painted on it.
WTF?? No ship of that description appears in either the original episode or the remastered effects. The original ep had the Romulans using the stock Klingon ship with no modifications. In fact, that episode was the first appearance of the TOS Klingon cruiser, later dubbed the D7 in fanon.

In the remastered version, the new CGI shots show a standard Klingon ship with the Romulan bird pattern painted on its underside, as well as a digitally created Romulan Bird of Prey of “Balance of Terror” vintage.

http://trekmovie.com/2008/04/03/first-images-from-the-enterprise-incident/

No, no, I was talking about the Klingon Bird of Prey from TSFS. The lore is that it was originally supposed to be a Romulan ship but, when the villains were made Klingon relatively late in the game, it was redesigned to look more Klingon.
 
From "Space Docks and Birds of Prey," one of the featurettes on The Search for Spock, Special Collector's Edition, Disc 2:

Bill George, Additional Spacecraft Design (9:32-10:26):
Another really interesting thing about this ship was in the very first draft of the film that we got when we started, it was not a Klingon ship, it was actually a Romulan ship that Kruge had commandeered somehow. And the opening sequence with the merchantman was different. It was actually all these Klingon ships hanging out saying, "Where is he?" And then all of a sudden he appears right in the middle of them, kind of blowing them all away to show that he's a really bad character.

And the reason why I'm bringing this up is that since it was originally a Romulan ship, and I am a big fan of the original series, I put in this graphic on the bottom that was a little bit reminiscent of the bird wings on the bottom of the original Romulan ship to try to tie the two together. Ultimately it was decided that it was just a Klingon ship, but the wing pattern stayed.

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The very first prototype study model

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Another image of the bottom from the featurette

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Bill George showing the top of the prototype study model
 
Still a very "Klingon" design.

Yes, it's not clear in the featurette just when the Romulan concept was dropped or how much Klingon design influence there was from the start. Others might be able to provide more info; this is all I have on the subject. But since it showed the first model made and covered what Brutal Strudel mentioned, I thought it might be helpful.

The model would look a lot more Romulan to me if the neck/head boom weren't there. But here's a mention that it was apparently always intended to look like a bird with an outstretched neck, followed by more on its mixed influences:

Leonard Nimoy (6:14-6:58):
When we went to the ILM people, I said, in effect, it should be like a bird on attack. It should be swooping and frightening, and I gestured with my arms this way [arms outstetched to either side], as though these were the wings. And somebody suggested that the wings might change their position, which they did. I'm not sure how much audience awareness we had of that, but the wings actually changed position as the thing went from a cruising position into a diving, swooping, attacking position. But I was very interested in the idea that it should have this outstretched neck as though you would see a bird flying to attack a creature, or sometimes you see a bird swooping down towards the water to dive in, catch a fish, and come up with a fish in its beak.
Bill George, 6:58-7:35:
Very often the way it would start would be lots of sketches, a whole variety of directions, and then we would present those to the director, Leonard Nimoy. And he would pick the ones that he would like, and then from that we would get closer and closer to the ultimate design.

And what we want to get across, if we're successful with the design, is not only that it looks like a different culture, but that has some sort of character that's reminiscent of the culture. In other words, for the Klingon ship, it would be mean and aggressive-looking.

And there were lots of sketches done for the ship, and ultimately there was never one that was chosen as, "OK, that's the design." There were things that Leonard liked about some of them and others things he liked about others. And so we came up with a hybrid.

[...]
8:01-8:51:
And one of the sketches that I worked from, interestingly enough, that Nilo [Rodis, visual effects art director] gave me was this one here...
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...of this muscle man. And he said, "Make it look like that," which at first took me a little bit by surprise. But the kind of downturned arms became the posture for the wings in the attack position, and then I also looked - the other thing that was very distinctive were these shoulders, these big trapezius muscles here. And that was the genesis of why I came up with this kind of radial fin area that would, no matter how you bent the wing, would still retain that mass and give it, hopefully, the look of the muscle man.
 
Still a very "Klingon" design.

Yes, it's not clear in the featurette just when the Romulan concept was dropped or how much Klingon design influence there was from the start.

I'd say the name, the bird painting and the wings are all enough to show significant Romulan influence. It was IMO an error an the part of the SFS production to leave those elements. The neck and head, of course, are strictly Klingon.
 
...Of course, in canon terms, Romulans hold no claim to the name "Bird of Prey". Only fans have ever attributed that name to the design seen in "Balance of Terror", or to other Romulan designs.

The wing paint is a valid complaint, whereas wings in general were already a very prominent part of Klingon design in TOS, and were kept as such in TMP. The dihedral might be "Romulan", but we mostly see the wings in anhedral in ST3:TSfS anyway...

Timo Saloniemi
 
I'm no expert here but I'm pretty sure that Klingons would regard resolving their differences with anyone, much less Rommies, via lawsuit as being "without honor."
 
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