Elle: Another example of failed Heroes potential

[Hunter X]

Pairing them up is fine. Pairing them up by having them first meet because she's being manipulated by Noah to manipulate Sylar into becoming the ultimate evil manipulator...wacky! Honestly, I don't remember much about their romance. Just how they met, that she's the one who taught him that he can steal powers without cutting people open, that they got it on during the eclipse, and that he killed her 'cause suddenly it was time for him to be all-out evil again.

 

[Anwar]

I assumed he killed her because he realized the Petrellis' weren't his parents and Elle knew all along he was being manipulated.

 

[Mr Light]

that she's the one who taught him that he can steal powers without cutting people open,

I forgot that, that's hilarious, since in Season Four tattoo girl just "taught" him to do that for the first time and he's all appreciative for it!

 

[Snaploud]

that she's the one who taught him that he can steal powers without cutting people open,

I forgot that, that's hilarious, since in Season Four tattoo girl just "taught" him to do that for the first time and he's all appreciative for it!

Actually, I think you're misinterpreting that scene in season four. Sylar is merely explaining to tattoo girl that he doesn't have to kill (not realizing it for the first time) to get someone's powers.

 

[Hermiod]

^Sylar knew he could do that. Arthur told him he could do it after he manifested Elle's powers without killing her or even trying to.

He apparently chooses not to use this aspect of his ability very often because, unlike Peter's old ability, it requires him to have some sort of emotional connection with the other person. It's quicker for him to do things the old fashioned way.

Both times, he's used it on women he was (apparently) mutually attracted to.

 

[Forbin]

Plus, he just likes killing people.

Everybody needs a hobby.

 

[Hunter X]

He apparently chooses not to use this aspect of his ability very often because, unlike Peter's old ability, it requires him to have some sort of emotional connection with the other person. It's quicker for him to do things the old fashioned way.

Though back in season one, when Claude was training Peter how to access and control his growing collection of powers, Peter could only access them through an emotional connection. I remember a scene where Claude threw him off a roof and Peter used a strong memory of Claire to access that power and heal.

I'm not really sure why I'm pointing this out, though...any other show it would be to show that there's a consistency in Syler and Peter's powers, furthering their mirror-image traits and rivalry. But this is Heroes, so arguing that there is consistency is insanity.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I assumed he killed her because he realized the Petrellis' weren't his parents and Elle knew all along he was being manipulated.

Did Elle know that? And why would Sylar think she would know that. Even Peter didn't know that, and it's his own frakkin' family!

But this is Heroes, so arguing that there is consistency is insanity.

On this show, any seeming consistency is coincidence.

 

[Hermiod]

He apparently chooses not to use this aspect of his ability very often because, unlike Peter's old ability, it requires him to have some sort of emotional connection with the other person. It's quicker for him to do things the old fashioned way.

Though back in season one, when Claude was training Peter how to access and control his growing collection of powers, Peter could only access them through an emotional connection. I remember a scene where Claude threw him off a roof and Peter used a strong memory of Claire to access that power and heal.

I'm not really sure why I'm pointing this out, though...any other show it would be to show that there's a consistency in Syler and Peter's powers, furthering their mirror-image traits and rivalry. But this is Heroes, so arguing that there is consistency is insanity.

Yes, Peter's former ability to recall previously duplicated powers comes from remembering how the person who he duplicated the ability from made him feel.

However, he did not need any such empathy to duplicate the abilities of people near him. He duplicated all sorts of powers without even realising it during season one, especially.

As I have said in the past, this is a much more interesting potential limitation on his ability than taking it away and replacing it with the cheap, dumbed down version he has now. They could have limited him to being able to recall only the powers of people he feels strongly about.

 

[DevilEyes]

I assumed he killed her because he realized the Petrellis' weren't his parents and Elle knew all along he was being manipulated.

Did Elle know that? And why would Sylar think she would know that. Even Peter didn't know that, and it's his own frakkin' family!

I suppose because Noah said she did... Now why he believe that was the truth, is another matter.

But this is Heroes, so arguing that there is consistency is insanity.

On this show, any seeming consistency is coincidence.

Pretty much.

 

[Hunter X]

recall[/I] previously duplicated powers comes from remembering how the person who he duplicated the ability from made him feel.

However, he did not need any such empathy to duplicate the abilities of people near him. He duplicated all sorts of powers without even realising it during season one, especially.

As I have said in the past, this is a much more interesting potential limitation on his ability than taking it away and replacing it with the cheap, dumbed down version he has now. They could have limited him to being able to recall only the powers of people he feels strongly about.

Fair point. He did absorb abilities without realizing it. And I agree with the statement that his limitations while training with Claude were much more interesting than the amnisia/power drain/one-touch-one-power-wonder he is now. Honestly, when the show was in season one, I thought they would take the logical route of having Peter's grasp of his powers progress slowly so that he wouldn't become all-powerful until the end of the series.

'Course, arguing that Heroes is logical is even worse than arguing for consistency.

 

[Top41]

Yeah, the end of that storyline really pissed me off. It's one of the reasons I gave up on Heroes--they reset the characters or have them change for no discernible reason. The characters stopped feeling real after a while--the plot drives them rather than the other way around, which is how it should be. A pity, because the show really had potential. And I always liked the Sylar/Elle romance!

 

[drychlick]

yes i like her! she could have been a hero or villan! remember her and cllare team up to find out there powers! she could have been her girlfriend in time ! hey it hero anything can and will happen lol