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IDW's movie-based Star Trek comics are outselling, by some margin, their non-movie-based comics. This demonstrates that there is a market for movie-based storytelling. It's a fair bet based on that fact that Pocket's movie-based novels would have sold at least as well, if not better, than Pocket's non-movie-based novels.
Sort of. Countdown did really well, and their later film-based comics (Nero and Spock: Reflections) had really high first issues, but then tapered off after that to comparable levels to non-film ones.

These are the average per-issue sales of each mini:
- 13,243: Countdown
- 8,965: The Wrath of Khan
- 8,756: Nero
- 8,608: Spock: Reflections
- 8,381: Crew
- 8,245: Mission's End
- 7,182: Romulans: Schism
- 6,940: Alien Spotlight II

Add one more each, onto Reflection's and Crew, I just got my copies at B&N yesterday. :biggrin:
 
As for the books on the various series continuing to sell, they've had time to build followings...

Hahahaha! VOY was seen by a lot less people than watched TNG, and even though many fans were very angry with the directions Christiie Golden took the VOY characters after the finale, and the boringly brown cover, the first post-series VOY novel sold gangbusters anyway! Multiple reprints.

As far as I understand, sales of ENT books has always been suprisingly sufficient enough to keep putting them out, even though the audience for the TV show was tinier that VOY's.

Your posts on this matter are really barking up the wrong tree, in an alternate universe. AFAIK, the JJ-verse novels only have to sell to 1% of the parent film's audience to equal regular ST tie-in sales. JJ kept us (well, us, not you) hungry for ST movie info before the film premiered. Not releasing four tie-in novels makes us even hungrier for the next film, and the four books when they are finally approved for release.
 
The only reason that makes any real sense is that somebody in a position to make that call is under the impression that they've already missed their chance to make the most from these books, possibly influenced by the toy line going belly up and other merchandising efforts either not performing as well as expected or being shelved entirely, and maybe thinking it might be better to hold onto these books until the next movie comes out and try to cash in on that bandwagon, assuming that one generates the same level of enthusiasm.

Nope - as you said yourself, when the marketing chimps and managers on that level are involved, sense and logic have nothing to do with it.

This wasn't an economic/sales reason. It was either a pointy-haired-boss-flexing-his-muscles reason, or on some level a creative lets-make-sure-only-JJ-does-new-timeline-stuff-and-maybe-he'll-give-us-a-bonus kind of thing on the part of a hopeful chimp.
 
The only reason that makes any real sense is that somebody in a position to make that call is under the impression that they've already missed their chance to make the most from these books, possibly influenced by the toy line going belly up and other merchandising efforts either not performing as well as expected or being shelved entirely, and maybe thinking it might be better to hold onto these books until the next movie comes out and try to cash in on that bandwagon, assuming that one generates the same level of enthusiasm.

Nope - as you said yourself, when the marketing chimps and managers on that level are involved, sense and logic have nothing to do with it.

This wasn't an economic/sales reason. It was either a pointy-haired-boss-flexing-his-muscles reason, or on some level a creative lets-make-sure-only-JJ-does-new-timeline-stuff-and-maybe-he'll-give-us-a-bonus kind of thing on the part of a hopeful chimp.

And if challenged on it, all the chimp in question has to do is point to the flagging sales in other areas to justify his stance.
 
The only reason that makes any real sense is that somebody in a position to make that call is under the impression that they've already missed their chance to make the most from these books, possibly influenced by the toy line going belly up and other merchandising efforts either not performing as well as expected or being shelved entirely, and maybe thinking it might be better to hold onto these books until the next movie comes out and try to cash in on that bandwagon, assuming that one generates the same level of enthusiasm.

Nope - as you said yourself, when the marketing chimps and managers on that level are involved, sense and logic have nothing to do with it.

This wasn't an economic/sales reason. It was either a pointy-haired-boss-flexing-his-muscles reason, or on some level a creative lets-make-sure-only-JJ-does-new-timeline-stuff-and-maybe-he'll-give-us-a-bonus kind of thing on the part of a hopeful chimp.

And if challenged on it, all the chimp in question has to do is point to the flagging sales in other areas to justify his stance.

No, cos even chimps know the difference between apples, oranges and bananas
 
Didn't say it was completely logical. Just enough to justify putting the kibosh on the books.

And if that didn't work, the old standby, "'Cause I said so," would end the debate right there.
 
I'm hoping Sling & Arrows will finally come out in trade paperback. I've been looking forward to getting to read the Ds9/Tng crossover and see how Picard and Sisko react to having to work with each and their crews working together.I'm intersted in all the stories in this series. Also more Enterprise novels dealing with The Romulan war too.:techman: Also the upcoming ds9 stories and other stories in the Tos era like Unspoken Truth and the Captain Pike novel.
 
Can we just accept "'Cause I said so" as the reason and end the debate now?

That still leaves unanswered the question of just it was that said so and a rationale beyond malicious whimsy.

I'm just sayin' that there is enough justification out there for someone looking for a reason to back out.

Personally, I think it's a case of someone having either an overly pessimistic short term view or an overly optimistic long term view. The books were pretty much written and folks were anticipating their release, so yeah, they were gonna sell. Any decision to go ahead with more or pull the plug should be based on those sales, as well as taking advantage of whatever buzz is still lingering from the first movie. There's no guarantee the second movie will do anywhere near the business of the first one, so they should be cashing in on this while folks like me are still in the minority.

That fair-minded enough for ya, Christopher?
 
It's ironic -- for someone who so dislikes the new movie, Captain Robert April sure seems to enjoy existing in an alternate reality.
 
It's ironic -- for someone who so dislikes the new movie, Captain Robert April sure seems to enjoy existing in an alternate reality.
This reminds me a lot of a certain (small) subset of people who used to post frequently on Firefly/Serenity fora...

First, it was "there's no way a failed series will ever continue in any form." Then, it was "well, obviously, they're not going to make a feature film out of it." Then, it was "a feature film that didn't live up to expectations will never sell any tie-in merchandise."

Each fact that proved an assertion wrong was just replaced by a new argument for their view of it as a "failed franchise." I let it get to me on the Browncoat boards, but even then, you could still argue that things were less successful than hoped. The Star Trek version of that argument is so obviously ridiculous that it's not worth wasting my (or anyone's) time being bothered by someone making it. :rolleyes:
 
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