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Ships have blue phasers???

MangiPangi

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So I've been an avid fan of trek fiction for a while. I've always known that the majority of ships phasers have been red/orange color with a few exceptions such as TOS era.

I just finished Titan: Synthesis as well as Voyager: Unworthy. In the books it was mentioned that ships were firing with blue phasers.

Can anyone explain why or when this happened?? Just curious. Thanks!
 
they got upgraded to blue ray! ;)



seriously, I have never noticed the colours of the phasers, hopefully someone else can answer your question.
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.
And changed all the radio station presets
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.
Aw. I always kind of thought an NPB would give off some light due to Cherenkov radiation from electrons that escaped neutralization at the aperture and were subsequently bounced through the beam medium at a higher velocity than 1)the beam itself and 2)the phase velocity of light in the beam. I always kind of knew it was BS, but I was hoping I was right. :(

Someone's gonna bring up "nadions" pretty shortly, though.
 
Aw. I always kind of thought an NPB would give off some light due to Cherenkov radiation from electrons that escaped neutralization at the aperture and were subsequently bounced through the beam medium at a higher velocity than 1)the beam itself and 2)the phase velocity of light in the beam. I always kind of knew it was BS, but I was hoping I was right. :(

Maybe, but I doubt it would be very bright. You'd be hard-pressed to see it at all without enhancement.
 
So I've been an avid fan of trek fiction for a while. I've always known that the majority of ships phasers have been red/orange color with a few exceptions such as TOS era.

I just finished Titan: Synthesis as well as Voyager: Unworthy. In the books it was mentioned that ships were firing with blue phasers.

Can anyone explain why or when this happened?? Just curious. Thanks!

Authors are always getting phaser colours wrong, going back years. Decades, even.
I guess either A) the authors are colour-blind or B) they'd rather that phasers be a different colour, and jump at the change to change it in their books.
Or maybe C) they like to wind us up.
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.

I hope you're not saying this seriously.


Anyway, I 'm glad someone brought this up, as I miss blue phasers. It seems like ever since TWOK they've been orange. Though I believe in the new movie they were red.
 
Anyway, I 'm glad someone brought this up, as I miss blue phasers. It seems like ever since TWOK they've been orange. Though I believe in the new movie they were red.

In the new movie, the colours we saw were:
-Blue for the turret pulse phasers for the Kelvin.
-Red for the beam phasers for the Kelvin.
-Red for the pulse phasers for the Enterprise.

Not sure if I have a preference between the red or the blue for weapon colour. :shrug:
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.
I hope you're not saying this seriously.

the part about particle beam been invisible in space, or the part about the colour is a computer overlay on the viewscreen?
 
Realistically, a particle beam in space would be invisible anyway. So either it's poetic license, in which case it doesn't matter what color is asserted for the beam, or it's a computer overlay on the viewscreen to make the beams visible to the crew, in which case you can just assume somebody reset the color coding.
I hope you're not saying this seriously.

the part about particle beam been invisible in space, or the part about the colour is a computer overlay on the viewscreen?
It doesn't make much sense as an explanation because the phaser beams are more often seen firing from an external viewpoint.
 
Authors are always getting phaser colours wrong, going back years. Decades, even.

Come on, it's not as though the special effects themselves have ever been uniform in their depiction of phaser beam colors. So it's kind of silly to say there's a "wrong" answer when there's never been a definitive "right" one.


It doesn't make much sense as an explanation because the phaser beams are more often seen firing from an external viewpoint.

"Seen" by the camera in a created visual-effects shot. Trek space shots are grossly unrealistic in many ways, visible beams being just one. They're best taken as figurative representations for the viewer's benefit, not representing any in-universe reality at all.
 
I always assumed it was the "crew adding colour on viewscreen for their benefit" option. I notice that in "Enterprise" human particle weapons fire red, Vulcan versions green, Andorian versions blue; the colour of each race's blood. :)
 
Of course, if we assume the colors represent something real rather than just artistic license, then you'd want to have blue beams rather than red, because blue light is higher in frequency and energy than red light. So a blue beam would be hotter and more powerful than a red one.

However, that clashes with our psychological expectations; we see red as a "hot" color because we associate it with fire, and blue as a "cool" color because we associate it with water. So FX artists tend to get it backward, using red beams to connote higher power than blue beams. (Case in point: in the '09 film, the hand phaser's beam is red on kill, blue on stun.)

Although come to think of it, maybe a red beam would be better. If a beam is radiating light out to the sides, then that represents energy that's being wasted and not delivered to the target. So maybe a red-glowing beam isn't necessarily more powerful, but more efficient, wasting less of its energy. But no, I think that's a reach. If the beam is high in energy, its waste photons would be as well. If it were more efficient, it would just lose fewer photons in the first place; it would be dimmer, not redder. At least, that's my instinct.

This is why, ideally, you want an invisible beam. Not only does it waste a minimum of energy, but hey, it's harder for the enemy to track back to your firing position. Always a plus. (Which is also why brilliant glowing torpedoes are a silly idea, more a conceit for the benefit of the audience than something that actually makes sense in-universe.)
 
Case in point: in the '09 film, the hand phaser's beam is red on kill, blue on stun.

they ripped that off from Star Wars which used blue 'rings' for the stun shot and red 'bolts' for killing shots.
 
Oh, don't be ridiculous. Star Wars was hardly the first or only production to use that. Like I said, it's just natural human psychology to perceive red as hot and dangerous and blue as cool and safe. It's preposterous to give a 1977 movie credit for "inventing" something so fundamental to our perceptions. Star Wars isn't that influential.
 
I always imagined colored beam weapons as having an invisible beam of energy coupled with a visible particle stream for aiming purposes. It would be rather difficult to shoot those things if you couldn't see where you were shooting. Be bad to walk into an invisible phaser beam too.
 
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