Well buy them online, or try more stores, or get the BR versions, ebay is awash with TOS in its original form release on DVD.
Remastered TOS fx
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john titor
Captain
most people buy stuff from the highstreet. If you can't buy something in your town/city because they want you to buy their remastered version of it, thats manipulating the market, fact. I don't like to shop online as it requires a mastercard, internet shopping experiences are inherently perilous, fact. Buying on Ebay is asking for the box minus the product in it, fact.
john titor
Captain
Since when was a valid complaint equivalent to snivelling. I guess George Washington was a sniveller to or the french revolutionaries.
Star trek has been available to the public to buy and own since the late 80s on some format of another, so if its such a big deal to have TOS in its original form why don't you already have its?
As for all the cant but online stuff i suggest you buy some tin foil and sit in the closet, they are watching you.
As for all the cant but online stuff i suggest you buy some tin foil and sit in the closet, they are watching you.
john titor
Captain
Because I can only time travel so much, its expensive you know and its that kind of thinking, labelling anyone as a conspiracy nut who thinks hmmm, you know maybe the powers that be aren't constitutive of a benign patriach, which stops progress.
Sales of TV series for home viewing goes in cycles. Before the revamped CGI TOS DVD sets came out, the stores were doing brisk business with the regular TOS sets. Many stores knew that a new release was coming and start dropping the price point of the old sets to make room on their shelves for the new stuff.
If you're such a TOS fan, may I ask why you didn't buy the earlier sets when they were available, first at full price and then at bargain-basement prices? Have you tried asking your local shop to see if they can still order in the original sets for you? There may still be some in the CBS Home Video warehouse.
After the three CGI sets have been around for a while, they'll probably revamp the sets again, maybe bringing out TOS in production order instead of airdate order, or with new bonus features and interviews? Or as a massive DVD set of 79 regular episodes, plus 79 CGI episodes, and all manner of versions of "The Cage".
Meanwhile, get yourself a BluRay player and buy the BluRay sets: they have both versions!
trevanian
Rear Admiral
A little bit of the bluray fever reminds me of the laserdisc fever -- a few (a few more in this instance) saying nobody is on board with the best-looking stuff ... well, LD bit it in a big way (unfortunately, for us analog folks), like S-VHS bit it in a small way, and half of the stories I read seem to imply bluray will also fail to catch on, that DVD will coast along till the next new thing hits.
As much as I like to see stuff like 2001 in the best way possible, I'm not particularly interesting in rebuying a ton of stuff I've already acquired in LD and DVD, especially since I'd have to get a new TV to take advantage of a bluray system (my 36" was bought 9 years ago and is unfortunately running wonderfully, so I have no likelihood of needing a new set with appropriate 'modern' plugs in the back.)
I'm probably not the only cinephile who is not rushing to get on the bluray thing either ... the issue of heavyhanded DNR on BR that obliterates detail is certainly a divisive one. From the stills, it looks like that alone would keep me from buying BR, even if all other aspects were 'wins.'
And to John Titor: you might keep in mind who you are responding to when addressing stuff like the 'sniveling' issue. Consider the source -- and the validity of the source poster -- before replying to such snipes and you'll find you save yourself some time and bother, especially on trekbbs boards, which unfortunately are usually more about attacking legit posts than providing information or conveying a valid POV.
Interesting stuff from you, hope to see more.
Limiting yourself to shops in the high street is only going to make you search for TOS in its original form that much harder, but i don't know where your getting this "Perilous" stuff from concerning online shopping, been doing it for years without to many issues, be it online shops, ebay or whatever.
If you really want TOS in its original form your going to have to go online to get it now at this late stage of the game.
john titor
Captain
Thank you my friend, I agree about blu ray. The inevitable march of technology tends to miss out on the soul of art, like vinyl is way better than cd but has almost become obsolete and its difficult to get vinyl versions of new albums.
As regards certain posters, I am a warrior in my heart and as such must attack anyone who disagrees with me.
number6
Vice Admiral
Hates the march of technology.
Will attack anybody with a different opinion.
Maybe i should call you Theotocopulos
And yes that's one hell of a old joke.
They did use moderate DNR on the Trek BD series sets. I didn't notice it very much until I started alternating watching Trek with The Prisoner BD set. In comparison, The Prisoner looks much more natural with little DNR.
The Trek BDs still look and sound much better than the previous DVDs, but it's a shame they couldn't make them look the best possible. Maybe they'll remaster them again with less DNR in a year or two when we're itching to spend yet more money on Trek.
However, the DNR used on the Trek series is much less offensive than other releases, such as the Trek films on BD or John Carpenter's The Thing on BD. I have dual players (HD-DVD & BD), and I'd like to upgrade to newer BD-only players and sell my 10 or so HD-DVDs. Unfortunately, The Thing is one of my discs that has much better PQ than the newer BD, due to ridiculous DNR on the BD.
Doug
Yeah, I'm mostly happy with DVD. I have a HD flatscreen TV, but the size of the room (and the existing corner cabinet) won't really support a huge screen. Although I don't play video games, my housemate loves things like flight simulator games, so when I do buy a BluRay it'll probably be a Playstation 3.
No real desire to replace everything in BluRay 'cos I'm sure holodeck versions aren't too far off.
Or whatever other system turns out to be better, or more commercial, than BluRay.If you say so, but I bought a new record player a few years ago and had forgotten that vinyl can be incredibly staticky, and I really hate getting up halfway through every soundtrack album to flip the disc.
Technology marches onward, as long as folks line up to get the next big thing, it'll always march forward..
One can either go forward and embrace the new technology or one can complain and watch as your stuff gets obsolete and breaks down, never to be seen again...
please note the following..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc
My uncle bought one and some movies, he didn't get a VCR until the mid-90s when his CED player bit the big one...and bitched the entire time about how technology was moving too fast and how it wasn't worth it to upgrade etc. He always had an excuse for why he wouldn't even record his CEDs onto VHS until it was too late...and had to buy those favorite movies all over again.. He died before DVD hit it big. My father called him a Luddite and I guess he was...
One can either go forward and embrace the new technology or one can complain and watch as your stuff gets obsolete and breaks down, never to be seen again...
please note the following..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc
My uncle bought one and some movies, he didn't get a VCR until the mid-90s when his CED player bit the big one...and bitched the entire time about how technology was moving too fast and how it wasn't worth it to upgrade etc. He always had an excuse for why he wouldn't even record his CEDs onto VHS until it was too late...and had to buy those favorite movies all over again.. He died before DVD hit it big. My father called him a Luddite and I guess he was...
trevanian
Rear Admiral
I remember two older guys who bought CED; they were also the first people I knew who bought betamax in the 1970s, so they were ANYthing but luddites. In fact, one of them described himself as a promethean (ahead of Ben Bova's use of the term), because he was trying to light the way/inspire people to look to how new -- and better -- tech could augment what they had in their lives.
Key there is that the tech would add to, not simply cause to be replaced, what folks already had.
Since when was that a valid complaint?
john titor
Captain
Since when were you the arbiter of what constitutes a valid complaint or not?
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