What is wromg with these people?

[jamestyler]

I don't know if I'm envious or pissed with others getting such weather considering this is the first day the temprature has been above zero here for a while.

I wouldn't so much call it stupidity as selfishness. I always think of my daughter first, no matter what. Though I see a lot of people who see their children as an inconvience or burden where I live, as if they're in the way and they haven't clicked the kids come first.

As for T'Baio's idea - it's a bit extreme, and a little like a bad sci fi movie, but stupid people tend to breed stupid children passing on bad habits, racism, general stupidity and attitude. On the flip side, my daughter was unplanned and I don't test well - I would likely never have a child under that regime and I'm far from a bad father (in my opinion).

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I give a qualified "yes", contingent on "it depends on what you mean by a long period of time". Even in Phoenix (despite popular perception) we only have a few days every summer where the temperature goes above 110, and even then it's only in the afternoon.

Sounds like a paradise to me. But then we determined in the "Heat Tolerance" poll last year that there may be something to my rather non-human behavior... --->


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Seriously, though, I actually wrote an AU story where a Cardassian was raised on Earth--in Phoenix. I figured he'd find it comfortable!

 

[Miss Chicken]

I give a qualified "yes", contingent on "it depends on what you mean by a long period of time". Even in Phoenix (despite popular perception) we only have a few days every summer where the temperature goes above 110, and even then it's only in the afternoon.

Does it cool down considerably at night?

One of the problems with major heatwave in South Australia and Victoria is it stays hot at night (i.e over 30C). Most of the people who died in the 2009 heatwave were frail, elderly people who either didn't have air-condtioning or had it but didn't turn it on.

 

[Captain Ice]

MissChicken, on those days, the high is usually somewhere in the high '80s to low '90s.

Who in their right mind would live in 45C (113F) heat?

Well, there are almost three million people in the Greater Phoenix Area who put up with that level of heat for a few weeks every summer, but I don't know exactly how many of them are in their right mind.

Some days I swear this is only in the 2% neighborhood.

I mean, this is PHOENIX and we still have people locking their kids and pets in the car everyday during the summer. Oh, and people who have pools with inadequate fences/won't watch their kids around water.

Can people even survive exposure to that kind of heat for a long period of time?

I give a qualified "yes", contingent on "it depends on what you mean by a long period of time". Even in Phoenix (despite popular perception) we only have a few days every summer where the temperature goes above 110, and even then it's only in the afternoon.

Quite true. Most years, the temp is only over 110 for a week or two at a time.

 

[Finn]

Try the parts of Cali and Nevada where it hits 125-130, easy.

This is so rare that it's almost not even worth mentioning. It's not normal for the temperature in that area to get much above 120.

Once when I was in Las Vegas, it was 136. THAT was hot.

I hate to break it to you, but the highest temperature ever recorded in North America was 134 (July 10, 1913), and it was not in Las Vegas (Death Valley, CA).

In fact, the hottest temperature ever recorded in Las Vegas was 117, most recently on July 19, 2005.

I'm not going to argue with you. I know what the thermometer in my car said. I'm sure it had to do with sitting in traffic on blacktop more than anything, but it was still extremely f'ing hot. If the "official temperature" was not 136, then it was certainly within several degrees, and certainly much hotter than 113. And temps in the 120s aren't at all uncommon in the CA/AZ desert. Happens every summer.

I always found those temperature displays in cars and trucks to be pretty inaccurate. There were times when there was about 20 degrees difference between what was shown in the car and what was noted outside.

 

[Captain Ice]

This is so rare that it's almost not even worth mentioning. It's not normal for the temperature in that area to get much above 120.



I hate to break it to you, but the highest temperature ever recorded in North America was 134 (July 10, 1913), and it was not in Las Vegas (Death Valley, CA).

In fact, the hottest temperature ever recorded in Las Vegas was 117, most recently on July 19, 2005.

I'm not going to argue with you. I know what the thermometer in my car said. I'm sure it had to do with sitting in traffic on blacktop more than anything, but it was still extremely f'ing hot. If the "official temperature" was not 136, then it was certainly within several degrees, and certainly much hotter than 113. And temps in the 120s aren't at all uncommon in the CA/AZ desert. Happens every summer.

I always found those temperature displays in cars and trucks to be pretty inaccurate. There were times when there was about 20 degrees difference between what was shown in the car and what was noted outside.

And if it's sitting in the sun, it's even worse. I don't have one of these, but my dad does. frequently, upon first enterring the car, it reads 142-147 in the summer. When it's 118 or so outside.

 

[Miss Chicken]

Doctors and paramedics are quick to explain to people that if it is 40C outside it can easily be 60C inside a parked car.

 

[Count Zero]

Yeah, we were in Italy in the very hot summer of 2003. Our car regularly felt like a sauna.

 

[snakespeare]

... Despite that fact that it was so obviously hot paramedics were called out 4 times to treat children who had been locked in cars. What is wrong with these parents?

They are trying to save money on their day care. As we all know, when it comes to the bottom line, everyone has to make a few sacrifices, and that usually means the ones who can't refuse are volunteers.

I think it should be a misdemeanor, at least, so the parents have to stand before a judge and explain themselves, and then have to do some community service to help them remember not to do it again.

 

[Chaos Descending]

I give a qualified "yes", contingent on "it depends on what you mean by a long period of time". Even in Phoenix (despite popular perception) we only have a few days every summer where the temperature goes above 110, and even then it's only in the afternoon.

Does it cool down considerably at night?

One of the problems with major heatwave in South Australia and Victoria is it stays hot at night (i.e over 30C). Most of the people who died in the 2009 heatwave were frail, elderly people who either didn't have air-condtioning or had it but didn't turn it on.

No. It stays around 30C overnight as well during the heart of the summer here.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

Try the parts of Cali and Nevada where it hits 125-130, easy.

This is so rare that it's almost not even worth mentioning. It's not normal for the temperature in that area to get much above 120.

Once when I was in Las Vegas, it was 136. THAT was hot.

I hate to break it to you, but the highest temperature ever recorded in North America was 134 (July 10, 1913), and it was not in Las Vegas (Death Valley, CA).

In fact, the hottest temperature ever recorded in Las Vegas was 117, most recently on July 19, 2005.

Who in their right mind would live in 45C (113F) heat?

Well, there are almost three million people in the Greater Phoenix Area who put up with that level of heat for a few weeks every summer, but I don't know exactly how many of them are in their right mind.

Can people even survive exposure to that kind of heat for a long period of time?

I give a qualified "yes", contingent on "it depends on what you mean by a long period of time". Even in Phoenix (despite popular perception) we only have a few days every summer where the temperature goes above 110, and even then it's only in the afternoon.

136F was the hottest temperature ever recorded anywhere. It was in Libya I believe in the 1930s.

 

[SVD]

Make my inner heat lubber jealous whydonchya, Miss Chicken!

I think I can relate, Nerys. Im comfortable in the heat. In the middle of summer, it takes 90*f (32*c) to register as warm.

thank goodness lows of 18/-7 are rare in these parts, and are more often around freezing to 40/5

Yeah, we were in Italy in the very hot summer of 2003. Our car regularly felt like a sauna.

call me crazy, but I love that sensation. Heat of the summers here (95/35-113/45), I'll drive 10 or so miles with the ac off and windows up after my truck being parked in the hot sun.

 

[Bears Discover Fire]

Who in their right mind would live in 45C (113F) heat? Can people even survive exposure to that kind of heat for a long period of time?

I do routinely, I survive, I thrive and I love it.

ETA: and it baffles me that there are people who don't happen to have a pair of skis strapped to their feet yet they enjoy consistently freezing temperatures, bare trees, short, cloudy dark days, sleet, blizzards etc. That's a miserable and borderline unlivable existence for me.

 

[Tim]

Who in their right mind would live in 45C (113F) heat? Can people even survive exposure to that kind of heat for a long period of time?

I do routinely, I survive, I thrive and I love it.

You crazy.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Yeah, we were in Italy in the very hot summer of 2003. Our car regularly felt like a sauna.

call me crazy, but I love that sensation. Heat of the summers here (95/35-113/45), I'll drive 10 or so miles with the ac off and windows up after my truck being parked in the hot sun.

YES. Especially if I've just been in my cold store all day!!! They don't let me near the thermostat--they don't dare, because it's a known FACT that if the AC breaks, I won't notice it until everyone else is about to have a heatstroke.

 

[SVD]

Especially if I've just been in my cold store all day!!! They don't let me near the thermostat--they don't dare, because it's a known FACT that if the AC breaks, I won't notice it until everyone else is about to have a heatstroke.

In just about every one of those institution-type places (stores, offices, college classrooms) too cold! A few hours in them in t-shirt & jeans/shorts (the requisite wear for our nice dry heat) my nose and hands turn to icicles.

However, I do have my other, slightly masochistic side that likes that frozen feeling, and thoroughly enjoys a foggy day where it doesn't get above 38/3

Nerys, Dry or humid heat?

 

[Captain Ice]

ETA: and it baffles me that there are people who don't happen to have a pair of skis strapped to their feet yet they enjoy consistently freezing temperatures, bare trees, short, cloudy dark days, sleet, blizzards etc. That's a miserable and borderline unlivable existence for me.

I also find myself questioning the sanity of people who do not ski, yet live in places where one must deal with ice for 6 months out of the year.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Especially if I've just been in my cold store all day!!! They don't let me near the thermostat--they don't dare, because it's a known FACT that if the AC breaks, I won't notice it until everyone else is about to have a heatstroke.

In just about every one of those institution-type places (stores, offices, college classrooms) too cold! A few hours in them in t-shirt & jeans/shorts (the requisite wear for our nice dry heat) my nose and hands turn to icicles.

However, I do have my other, slightly masochistic side that likes that frozen feeling, and thoroughly enjoys a foggy day where it doesn't get above 38/3

Nerys, Dry or humid heat?

I can take either kind of heat. Dry heat I can withstand more than the humid kind, but I'd take either over being cold.

In my store, I can't wear any kind of short sleeves. Even in a blouse and slacks, I STILL get cold pretty often.

 

[T'Baio]

ETA: and it baffles me that there are people who don't happen to have a pair of skis strapped to their feet yet they enjoy consistently freezing temperatures, bare trees, short, cloudy dark days, sleet, blizzards etc. That's a miserable and borderline unlivable existence for me.

I also find myself questioning the sanity of people who do not ski, yet live in places where one must deal with ice for 6 months out of the year.

*shrug* I was born here.