SPIDER-MAN 4 officially delayed - Update: Raimi/Maguire out, reboot in
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If I recall correctly, you don't actually need a film itself to keep the rights from reverting, just to demonstrate that a film project is being actively developed. Which it clearly is; they're just not doing a very good job of it.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
If I recall correctly, you don't actually need a film itself to keep the rights from reverting, just to demonstrate that a film project is being actively developed. Which it clearly is; they're just not doing a very good job of it.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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Development isn't usually enough to satisfy the terms of the rights contract. You have to actually produce a film within the specified time frame (although the film doesn't necessarily have to be released - for example, the unreleased Fantastic Four film made in the 1990s was made for rights purposes). But Sony has some room to maneuver since the time frame in most Marvel rights contracts is five years. So as long as they make Spider-Man 4 by 2012 they'll retain the rights.
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It is. Zoe Saldana said last week that she's been told pre-production on the next Trek movie should begin in earnest around December of this year. There's no way it's making it out by May 2011.
It is. Zoe Saldana said last week that she's been told pre-production on the next Trek movie should begin in earnest around December of this year. There's no way it's making it out by May 2011.
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My mistake, then (on both counts). I'd not heard about Trek XII (So Very Tired) being pushed back from the original intended data on Wiki, but then, for obvious reasons, haven't been following news of its development.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
My mistake, then (on both counts). I'd not heard about Trek XII (So Very Tired) being pushed back from the original intended data on Wiki, but then, for obvious reasons, haven't been following news of its development.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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I care.
... not really, but I could. If I tried. Really hard.
I care.
... not really, but I could. If I tried. Really hard.
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I don't think it's possible to have more than three films in a superhero franchise before meltdown. Most of the time even #3 is dicey.
I don't think it's possible to have more than three films in a superhero franchise before meltdown. Most of the time even #3 is dicey.
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Mistakes? If speaking artistically, I agree, Spider-Man 2 is the best of them by far, and one of the best superhero films ever.
However, Spider-Man 3 is the most financially successful of them all. As far as the studio is concerned, they made no mistake. As far as they're concerned, they have the upper hand. They can say; "See? You did what we told you to, and we made the most money." I guarantee that's they're argument with Raimi right now. And they'd be right. They care about dollars and cents far more than whether the online fan community thinks part 3 is a piece of shit.
Mistakes? If speaking artistically, I agree, Spider-Man 2 is the best of them by far, and one of the best superhero films ever.
However, Spider-Man 3 is the most financially successful of them all. As far as the studio is concerned, they made no mistake. As far as they're concerned, they have the upper hand. They can say; "See? You did what we told you to, and we made the most money." I guarantee that's they're argument with Raimi right now. And they'd be right. They care about dollars and cents far more than whether the online fan community thinks part 3 is a piece of shit.
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Apparently Thor has now been moved to take Spidey 4's old slot. No hanging around there!
Apparently Thor has now been moved to take Spidey 4's old slot. No hanging around there!
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that would be good if Trek XII got in it's slot why has Spiderman 4 been delayed just wondering
that would be good if Trek XII got in it's slot why has Spiderman 4 been delayed just wondering
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Another example of studio interference -- apparently the Robocop remake is on hold too now that MGM Chairperson Mary Parent wants the movie to be filmed in 3D and Darren Aronofsky doesn't. I wonder if she wants it to be PG-13 too.
Another example of studio interference -- apparently the Robocop remake is on hold too now that MGM Chairperson Mary Parent wants the movie to be filmed in 3D and Darren Aronofsky doesn't. I wonder if she wants it to be PG-13 too.
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Re: SPIDER-MAN 4 officially delayed
Spider-Man 3 - $890,871,626
Spider-Man - $821,708,551
Spider-Man 2 - $783,766,341
In worldwide box office, yes, it was:
Spider-Man 3 - $890,871,626
Spider-Man - $821,708,551
Spider-Man 2 - $783,766,341
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I thought studios prized domestic returns over international ones?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
I thought studios prized domestic returns over international ones?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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Number 2 did do better at the US box office though. And that frequently is the main thing studio execs go by.
Plus I think it's foolish of execs to assume that because a movie was a hit, fans will go to see a sequel and not to consider the word of mouth and reviews for it. A lot of people may have gone to see Spidey 3 because they enjoyed the first 2, but not go to see a 4th because they didn't like no. 3.
Number 2 did do better at the US box office though. And that frequently is the main thing studio execs go by.
Plus I think it's foolish of execs to assume that because a movie was a hit, fans will go to see a sequel and not to consider the word of mouth and reviews for it. A lot of people may have gone to see Spidey 3 because they enjoyed the first 2, but not go to see a 4th because they didn't like no. 3.
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As for the box office, domestic box office used to be prized more than international box office, but that hasn't been the case for some time now. With the continuing development of international box office as a major revenue source (made even more potent because of the weak dollar) worldwide box office is now where it's at.
No, those problems were legal disputes over who owned the film rights. These problems are disputes over the creative direction.
As for the box office, domestic box office used to be prized more than international box office, but that hasn't been the case for some time now. With the continuing development of international box office as a major revenue source (made even more potent because of the weak dollar) worldwide box office is now where it's at.
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Agreed, even though I'm a whore and I'll go see Spider-Man 4 anyway.
However, another example is the James Bond franchise. Die Another Day was a huge hit but it received horrible reviews so the producers went in another direction and produced Casino Royale which was a complete turnaround in quality and was favorably received by critics and fans alike.
Agreed, even though I'm a whore and I'll go see Spider-Man 4 anyway.
However, another example is the James Bond franchise. Die Another Day was a huge hit but it received horrible reviews so the producers went in another direction and produced Casino Royale which was a complete turnaround in quality and was favorably received by critics and fans alike.