Supernatural Question *spoilers up through last episode aired*

[Snaploud]

I just caught up on Supernatural, and I have a question.

Lucifer said that there were five things (including himself) that couldn't be killed by the Colt. What do you think are the other four?

One theory already posted:

I got the distinct impression the other four things were the Horseman. Which makes sense especially if you go with the idea that Lucifer just assumed everyone knows it wouldn't work on God himself. Some things just don't need to be said.

My theory is that the five things are:

God
Lucifer
Michael
Gabriel
Raphael

Basically, I'm thinking that the five things are God plus the four archangels who have been introduced/mentioned. Lucifer is an archangel, so it would make sense that his archangel siblings would have similar levels of power (Michael, especially, as he was the one to defeat Lucifer the first time).

Castiel also said that there were only four angels who had talked directly with God, so this would fit in well with Lucifer's quote about the five things (again, assuming that one of the five is God).

I believe there are supposed to be more archangels in scripture, but Castiel has already said that our scriptures are very inaccurate. As an example, Uriel is supposed to be an archangel in many belief circles, but he was Castiel's subordinate in the context of the show (except for a brief period while the other angels were questioning Castiel's judgment). Also, Catholicism often only recognizes archangels Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel (plus Lucifer as a fallen archangel), so the writers have some precedent.

My theory is that the four siblings will all play a role in the series finale. [I'm also assuming that Zacharia is not an archangel. I don't believe it's been mentioned one way or the other, and the closest archangel (pronunciation-wise) is Zarachiel (as mentioned by St. Gregory).]

 

[Dorian Thompson]

Wow! You gave that some thought. Of course, our own Trickster being Gabriel makes sense in light of this theory. Nothing else seems to kill him. You may be on to something with the invulnerable archangel theory. No, Zachariah isn't an archangel. He's just an asshole. Did you know that Kripke and Sera Gamble, one of the head writers are both Jewish?

 

[Snaploud]

Wow! You gave that some thought.

Thanks! I got all the DVDs on Black Friday for about $10 a set, and I've burned through the episodes really quickly. It's a great show.

Of course, our own Trickster being Gabriel makes sense in light of this theory. Nothing else seems to kill him. You may be on to something with the invulnerable archangel theory. No, Zachariah isn't an archangel. He's just an asshole.

Did you know that Kripke and Sera Gamble, one of the head writers are both Jewish?

Interesting... There aren't any explicit references to archangels within the Torah (old testament), but the Jewish religion usually refers (if at all) to at least seven archangels with the higher archangels being Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel. Obviously, Lucifer isn't mentioned because the Jewish religion doesn't have a devil.

I could certainly see somebody with a Jewish background focus on Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel, and Lucifer would, of course, have to be thrown in for drama (as well as to connect with plotlines involving demons). It just so happens that having those four as the most powerful angels fits well into Catholic teachings (Catholicism being the most referenced Christian sect when dealing with stories of demons and possessions).

Disclaimer: most of my information is from wikipedia. I would never claim to be an expert on religion.

 

[Dream]

I don't how I feel about that. All the angels on the show with the exceptions of Castiel and Anna have been complete dicks. I'm not sure I can see them ever working with our heroes. I want Dean and Sam to be the ones to send Lucfier back to hell. I really hope they don't actually kill the devil.

Why didn't Lucifer just say the gun can't harm archangels? I think it'll be cooler if he meant angels were one of the things the gun can't kill. My theory.

Angels (Why would Samuel Colt want to make a gun that could kill angels?)
Trickers
Repears
Ghosts (The bullets would go right through them)
Horsemen

What bothers me the most is why did Samuel Colt only make a single gun that was so powerful? I'm sure it would've been much better if he made a dozen or twenty. Something that useful should had been mass produced! Of course then we wouldn't have the cool single gun with only five bullets plot that they used for the season one finale.

I hope they didn't lose the gun in the latest episode. They spent nearly the entire season 2 and 4 without it. I'll be pissed if it was lost or something again. They deserve a kickass weapon. They also need to start blowing other things away besides demons and vampires with it.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

Samuel Colt lived mostly during the first half of the 19th century. Mass producing anything wasn't really possible, much less a special gun. Who knows what the components actually were? You can't exactly fly them over from China. You couldn't even cross the country by rail until the 1860s. So I can handle having only one super duper special gun. He probably didn't want to give the secrets away to the workers.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Oooh what about a Colt powered, 19th century Gatling gun? Ahh well nevermind, checked wiki it came out in 1861. Plus it wouldnt be very practical hauling that thing around.

 

[Technobuilder]

If they go beyond the 5th season, I'd like a look into the mythology of Samuel Colt and the hunters of his day.

 

[John Picard]

Samuel Colt lived mostly during the first half of the 19th century. Mass producing anything wasn't really possible, much less a special gun. Who knows what the components actually were? You can't exactly fly them over from China. You couldn't even cross the country by rail until the 1860s. So I can handle having only one super duper special gun. He probably didn't want to give the secrets away to the workers.

Actually, Sam Colt perfected the revolver, and yes, this was at the early time of the Industrial Revolution.

Colt never claimed to have invented the revolver, as his design was merely a more practical adaption of Collier's revolving flintlock, which was patented in England and achieved great popularity there.[5] He did, however, greatly contribute to the use of interchangeable parts. "Unhappy with high cost of hand made guns, and with the knowledge that some parts of guns were currently being made by machine, Colt wanted all the parts on every Colt gun to be interchangeable and made by machine. His goal was the assembly line."[citation needed] This is shown clearly in a letter that Samuel Colt wrote to his father in which he said, "The first workman would receive two or three of the most important parts…and would affix these and pass them on to the next who add a part and pass the growing article on to another who would do the same, and so on until the complete arm is put together

 

[Dorian Thompson]

If they go beyond the 5th season, I'd like a look into the mythology of Samuel Colt and the hunters of his day.

I've always been of the opinion that a hunter mythology series based in the early and mid 19th century would be an outstanding idea. I don't know if the CW's female 18-34 demo goals would allow for such a kick ass series to be produced. Samuel Colt could really work as a character.