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Wraith of Khan Trailer

DougWare

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I spent quite a few hours going through the extra features on the Star Trek II and VI Blu-Rays that I picked up for $7.99 on Black Friday.

I was really shocked to notice that during the Wraith of Khan trailer, that they used Star Wars blaster sounds for the phaser effects.

I realize that this was a trailer, and that often effects are not complete, but Star Wars sound effects?

Has anyone else noticed this?
 
I spent quite a few hours going through the extra features on the Star Trek II and VI Blu-Rays that I picked up for $7.99 on Black Friday.

I was really shocked to notice that during the Wraith of Khan trailer, that they used Star Wars blaster sounds for the phaser effects.

I realize that this was a trailer, and that often effects are not complete, but Star Wars sound effects?

Has anyone else noticed this?

I can't say I ever noticed, but heck, I don't see a problem with them being used in a Trailer, so long as it's not in the movie...... and besides, Star Wars Ripped off Star Trek on a number of things, so I think it's only fair.
 
For a moment I thought it was a crossover between Stargate: Atlantis and Star Trek II! I would love to see a banter between Khan and McKay. :lol:
 
It makes sense given ILM's involvement in both franchises.

USS Bones said:
It was set in space, it had spaceships...Chewbacca was a poor man's Antican.

Given that Chewbacca was conceived in the mid-70's and Anticans didn't appear until 10 years later in TNG, i'd say it's the other way around.

Unless there is some subtle sarcasm I am missing here >.>
 
Anyone who can't at least concede 'tractor beam' is just being dishonest.

I never heard it anywhere besides TOS until Star Wars.

They could have found five other words or phrases to convey the tech but they used 'tractor beam'

end of story.

'wraith' of khan----spooky
 
"No ship that small has a cloaking device."

Neil

BINGO!

I caught that line over the weekend when they were airing the original three movies.... the Cloaking reference if I am not mistaken, originated on the original ST series back in the 60's.

There's also the tractor beam...... heck many of the common references we use today for things in space or future space flight/travel came mostly from Star Trek, and I am amlost positive that if Star Trek never existed, Star Wars wouldn't have..... and if it did, it'd be even worse then we currently know it.
 
I am amlost positive that if Star Trek never existed, Star Wars wouldn't have..... and if it did, it'd be even worse then we currently know it.

Hmm, I'm not sure 'bout that. At the time of the first Star Wars film Star Trek was just a cancelled show in reruns with a cult following, and if there wasn't a Forbidden Planet, or any of the 40's 50's and 60's sci-fi we wouldn't have Star Trek or Star Wars. Lucas also admits that his films are more in line with the saturday afternoon serials of the 50's and was influenced more by those episodes than Star Trek. And might I add, if Lucas hadn't given us Star Wars, i'm more inclined to believe we'd not have had the second coming of Trek beginning from the Motion Picture (green-lit based largely on Star Wars' sci-fi success) on to the films, TNG and so forth. Just like any genre, both franchises were enriched by what came before.

PS: The first use of a tractor beam can be traced to the 1931 story by E. E. Smith entitled "Spacehounds of IPC," which includes the line "Brandon swung mighty tractor beams upon the severed halves of the Jovian vessel, then extended a couple of smaller rays to meet the two little figures ..."

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The term "cloaking device" was first coined by Star Trek writer D.C. Fontana...
Cloaking devices have also been used in many other science-fiction settings, including Doctor Who, Star Wars, Stargate and Predator.

One more: The "stun ray" has been around for decades as a science fictional device (Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon) Space Ghost had a Stun setting on his wrist bands in 1966.
 
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Hmm, I'm not sure 'bout that.

Neither am I, which is why I said I was "almost positive" ;)

At the time of the first Star Wars film Star Trek was just a cancelled show in reruns with a cult following, and if there wasn't a Forbidden Planet, or any of the 40's 50's and 60's sci-fi we wouldn't have Star Trek or Star Wars. Lucas also admits that his films are more in line with the saturday afternoon serials of the 50's and was influenced more by those episodes than Star Trek. And might I add, if Lucas hadn't given us Star Wars, i'm more inclined to believe we'd not have had the second coming of Trek beginning from the Motion Picture (green-lit based largely on Star Wars' sci-fi success) on to the films, TNG and so forth. Just like any genre, both franchises were enriched by what came before.

Perhaps, but I imagine with todays' day & age and lack of originality, someone would have made a Star Trek movie long ago or rehashed the old series into a new series, like Battlestar G, Dr. Who, etc.

And I don't really buy Lucas's excuse, as I've seen many of those 50's space shows and movies, and most of them were way different then what I seen in Star Wars.

PS: The first use of a tractor beam can be traced to the 1931 story by E. E. Smith entitled "Spacehounds of IPC," which includes the line "Brandon swung mighty tractor beams upon the severed halves of the Jovian vessel, then extended a couple of smaller rays to meet the two little figures ..."

Ok, so there's the term, but what is meant by Swinging mighty tractor beams? What are they doing? Is it a weapon or is it more towards the Star Trek/Star Wars tool of moving things?

I wasn't referring so much toward the word itself, but both the word/thing and its purpose.

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The term "cloaking device" was first coined by Star Trek writer D.C. Fontana...
Cloaking devices have also been used in many other science-fiction settings, including Doctor Who, Star Wars, Stargate and Predator.

So besides Dr. Who which aired before Star Trek in 1963 or so, at what point in the series did they begin to use the term "Cloaking Device?"..... since you say it was originally coined by a ST Writer, I'd say Star Trek was the original users of that term, where all of the other shows you listed above used the term after the fact.

Regardless of all of this, my original point in this thread was that even if a Star Trek movie trailer may have used sound effects from Star Wars, I don't think Star Wars has any place to complain. All the finer details are kinda irrelevant.

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And yes, if it wasn't for past movies and shows about space through the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's etc. there wouldn't be a Star Trek or Star Wars..... the difference is that Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry actually took the time to make it all make some sort of sense and seem actually plausable to be the future.... everything else revolved around a gimmicky storyline and a bunch of fancy eye candy effects. Star Trek is basically responsible for creating much of the technology we take for granted today (by accident or purpose) where Star Wars..... as far as I'm aware, only gave us battery operated Walker toys.
 
Regardless of all of this, my original point in this thread was that even if a Star Trek movie trailer may have used sound effects from Star Wars, I don't think Star Wars has any place to complain. All the finer details are kinda irrelevant.

I agree... besides I don't think Star Wars was complaining. The truth is: they most likley used those Star Wars sounds in the trailer becuase the sound editing for the film wasn't finished yet.

But my point is that Star Wars is not a rip-off of Star Trek, or anything, as others is this forum claim. As with all sci-fi, these devices and terms are just part of the minutiae. Whether it's Hyperdrive, Warp Drive, Wormwholes, they're all just plot devices to get spaceships across space, it doesn't really matter.

What matters is concept, story, and theme. In that regard Star Wars is vastly different than Star Trek.

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And yes, if it wasn't for past movies and shows about space through the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's etc. there wouldn't be a Star Trek or Star Wars..... the difference is that Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry actually took the time to make it all make some sort of sense and seem actually plausable to be the future.... everything else revolved around a gimmicky storyline and a bunch of fancy eye candy effects. Star Trek is basically responsible for creating much of the technology we take for granted today (by accident or purpose) where Star Wars..... as far as I'm aware, only gave us battery operated Walker toys.

Agreed !! I totally agree with you, and that's partly why I love Trek...
But that doesn't diminish Star Wars' impact in opening up a new popularity of sci-fi in the latter 1970's, and speaks more of the differences of the two than the similarities.
 
I thought the thread was a slash fan film between Ricardo Montelban and Conner Trineer. What does that say about me that I clicked on it?
 
...and besides, Star Wars Ripped off Star Trek on a number of things, so I think it's only fair.

Like what?

Spock being able to sense the deaths aboard the Vulcan ship just like Obi-Wan was able to sense the deaths on Alderaan.

Gandolf the Grey, Professor X, and Doctor Who (among others) all have had similar abilities to sense mass death, approaching danger, transmitting thoughts, and so forth, long before Spock, Obi-Wan, the Vulcans, and the Jedi... nothing new in sci-fi fantasy.
 
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