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Best Fantasy Universe in books.

Best constructed fantay universe?

  • Shanarra series by Terry Brooks

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Dragonlance by Weis, Hickman and various authors

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Forgotten realms by RA Salvatore, Ed Greenwood and others

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Sword of Truth by Terry Goodkind

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lord Of the rings by JRR Tolkein

    Votes: 31 55.4%
  • Xanth by Piers Anthony

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan

    Votes: 5 8.9%
  • Apprentice Adept by Piers Anthony

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 12 21.4%

  • Total voters
    56

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What is the best constructed fantasy universe in books. I've listed my favorites here but there is also an "other" option to choose to add your own.

BTW- this isn't the series you liked to read best, though it still may be, but rather who set up their universe for the characters to live in the best. IE- the world itself lends a great deal to the storytelling and the actions of the characters fit well within it, etc..
 
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Have to go with the classic, although I've enjoyed a number of different constructed worlds. The Mithgar series by Dennis McKiernan is also quite interesting, although it definitely borrows from LOTR.
 
I voted for LotR [surprise, surprise] but I'd also put in a good word for Stephen Donaldson's The Land and Roger Zelzany's Amber... :D
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I myself waite a bit to vote but voted for the Shanarra world. The very beginning of the Sword of Shanarra is a history lesson of the realm and brooks always does an extremely good job of making sure the history of the world in the past and present plays a major role in shaping the narrative for his stories.

I think the Tolkien world will likely win but who knows...

I also think as an author there likely isn't a better person than Piers Anthony in setting great worlds in books. He has the two I mentioned plus the Incarnations of Immortality which you may or may not count as fantasy and has other very good sci-fi and earth long past time period settings for books as well.
 
The level of depth and history Tolkein brought to LOTR is absolutely breathtaking and also unmatched by anything I've read. His capacity to construct languages has been endlessly imitated but to my mind never really equalled (though Klingon is cool, qapla).
 
I voted for Lord of the Rings, not only because I love it but because Tolkien did such an amazing (and amazingly consistent) job there, creating not only characters and geography and races, but also history(ies) and language(s) and mythology(ies). Amazing, simply amazing.

But I'd also like to put in a good word for the Discworld.
 
It's not really fair to the others to put Tolkien into the mix with them. It wins outright (or should win, at least).

Here's my view of what I think of the series...

Shannara - The first one in the series really felt like bad fan fiction to me. It was almost connect-the-dots kinda writing. The writing gradually got better. I think I stopped at the point where Walker Boh becomes the new Druid. I gave up on it appealing to me.

Dragonlance - This initially appealed to me greatly. New world and everything. But gradually the Raistlin adoration got to me. I think I read two of the trilogies. By the end of the second trilogy I felt like Yul Brynner in The Ten Commandments - "Moses' God is God" :) . I gave up at that point. The work by the authors was done well. The first trilogy was pretty good.

Forgotten Realms - I *assume* that this is the same as the Drizz't books. I read about 7 or so of the books. The first one (from a chronological point of view - showing Drizz't's origins) was probably the best one. I grew tired of the repetitive nature of the stories. The dwarfs are particularly boring to me. And whatsername falling for Drizz't was the last straw. I really liked the fact that there are Gods and I especially thought Lolth was a fascinating creation. I tired of the story when it reverted into a Drizzt vs. Artemis Entreri thing and the Drizzt adoration almost became self-congratulatory.

Sword of Truth - I really found the second book (I think the second) with it's long drawn out torture sequence to be so weird and out there that I didn't read this any further.

Xanth - Is this the same as Dragonriders of Pern? Not sure. If so, I didn't quite like any of the stories in this - never really caught my imagination. {Edit: Ruaidhri clarified that Xanth is different from Dragonriders of Pern }

The rest I haven't read.

Of the remaining non-LOTR, I would rank them as

1. Dragonlance
2. Forgotten Realms (Drizzt)
3. Shannara
4. Sword of Truth


I would recommend Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy and also his Shadowmarch series.

Another shoutout to Jonathan Stroud's The Bartimaeus Trilogy.

I am somewhat partial to Eoin Colfer's Artemis Fowl series too.

And talking about the world itself - I really recommend both Tad Williams and Jonathan Stroud for their world-building piece - with props going to Tad. He does an awesome job of creating the world. Jonathan's idea of Djinns (Genies) is (to me) a pretty unique take on Fantasy (bring it closer to The Arabian Nights world of Genies which to me is somewhat less exploited in modern fantasy literature). However, Jonathan sticks to the story itself. So Tad easily wins on the world-building side.
 
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Xanth has nothing to do with Pern. It's Piers Anthony's magical pun-riddled Florida. Pern is Anne McCaffrey and loads of dragons.

I'd put a shout out there to Steven Erikson's Malazan series. Some really incredible world-building there.
 
I love Dragonlance for all its silliness (if you have been a role-player, you are bound to love it) and Discworld is the most hilarious thing I ever read, but you just can't beat LOTR.
 
It's really impossible to answer this kind of question without the answer reflecting one's personal favorite(s), and, for me, two of the best fantasy worlds out there are Fionovar (from Guy Gavriel Kay's The Fionovar Tapestry) and the universe of Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman's The Death Gate Cycle (perhaps my favorite piece of non-shared fantasy literature in history).
 
^ Honestly - and I know I'm a fan, but I don't think this is pure opinion on my part - LotR is still the most amazing achievement. Surely you don't have to like the books to see that...but on the other hand, you do need to have read them or at least have watched the movies.

When I've tried to explain LotR to non-fans, that's when it really comes home to me how detailed and multilayered Tolkien's achievement is.
 
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I voted for Lord of the Rings, not only because I love it but because Tolkien did such an amazing (and amazingly consistent) job there, creating not only characters and geography and races, but also history(ies) and language(s) and mythology(ies). Amazing, simply amazing.

But I'd also like to put in a good word for the Discworld.

That's why I voted Other.The Discworld series is one of the finest examples of the fantasy genre ever written.
 
No love for Pern? Redwall? Dune (yes, I know it's usually classed as SF, but prophesied Chosen Ones, mystical sandworms and Seer babies sound like fantasy to me)? Avalon (Bradley)?

And honestly, I've always felt the strongest thing Harry Potter had going for it was the world construction. The stories and characters are relatively thin - the world however, is rich and charming.
 
Harry Turtledoves, Videssos. The Misplaced Legion is a terrific series. Take the Rome series from HBO throw in some time travel, some magic and the Byzantine Empire and you have a very good world to play with. Terrific characters are created and battles rage both in the field and in the courts of Empires. Some of Turtledoves best work by far.
 
Wow, there's literally hundreds that could be on that list.

However, some of the ones that definitely should have made it:

Zelazny's Amber
Bujold's Chalion
Feist's Riftwar Saga
Donaldson's The Land
Edding's Belgariad and Mallorean
Pullman's Dark Materials
Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings
Erickson's Malazan Book of the Fallen
The shared universe of Thieves World
Gemmel's Legend series

Even some of the great oldies:

Howard's Hyperborea
Leguin's Earthsea
Leiber's Newhon
Vance's Dying Earth
Lewis' Narnia
Alexander's Prydain
Cherryh's Gates cycle

and of course lots more.

I'd put LOTR up there as the grand champion, retire the trophy and start talking about the others. :)

The best designed world after that - I'd say The Land, Amber, and Westeros would be my top three, with Earthsea given the old timer's award. Chalion is awfully close - there's a reason Bujold has won so many Hugo and Nebula awards.

I'm hearing great things about Malazan, haven't had a chance to read it yet.
 
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