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Earth culture in Trek's time period

They talked about a WWIII pic sweeping all the award ceremonies in 'Enterprise'. So movies exist into at least the 22nd Century. Tom Paris mentioned 'holo-comic books' in a Voyager episode. Trip knew about Superman comics, but perhaps he was reading antique ones. It wasn't clear if the Superman character survives into the 2150s.

Music is mostly classical in Trek. And by that, I mean that 20th century jazz, even the Beastie Boys (in XI) would be considered 'classical' by that time.

Crewmembers do seem to listen to classical music or jazz a lot, though, don't they? It's as if the Federation has banned any kind of aggressive music, like gangster rap, or Slayer or Anthrax, etc.
 
On Star Trek, they don't really talk about current Earth culture. (such as music, entertainment, art, etc.) They only reference culture from before the 21st century.

If they tried to show future civilian culture, it could very well look silly a mere 5 years later. Remember this is a franchise created by people in the 20th/early 21st century, and for audiences of that time.

That is very true. Remember when they tried to show the 'ultimate martial art' in TNG? It looked like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers! Or that addictive game in 'The Game'? There's superior ones to that on your PSP! When science fiction tries to predict future cultural trends, it tends to date very quickly.
 
They have the sport of parisses squares, that's apparently a 24th century creation. And then there is sitting across the table from Deanna Troi as she slowly eats chocolate ice cream with fudge syrup, that could be considered a form of performance art!


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Two reasons:
1. The Beastie Boys totally rock

Yeah! Besides, it was daddy's installed media system in daddy's vehicle, so it may not have been Jr.'s music to begin with. Maybe daddy, who was into 20th century cars, was into 20th century music, too. And The Beastie Boys totally rock!

3. The "Vulcancore" genre which dominated the 21st-23rd centuries doesn't have the pizazz.

...but as pop culture genres go, it was exceedingly logical...
 
That game with the Zakdorn from "Peak Performance" still looks pretty sweet, though.

I remember that game, that was or is still very sweet looking. Interesting that that episode came out in 1988, but it looks better then "The Game" episode which came out in 1992 or '93.

By the way, it seems like 23rd and 24th century humans have a fascination with the 20th and early 21st century. That's their thing in the future, to be seriously retro. There's always a character that has some obsession with the past.
 
If they tried to show future civilian culture, it could very well look silly a mere 5 years later. Remember this is a franchise created by people in the 20th/early 21st century, and for audiences of that time.

That's part of the fun! We watch an episode like Mudd's Women and think "They thought the future would be like that?!!"
 
^ Men looking at swing hips, women obsessing about their appearance, trafficking in human beings, con men, drug smuggling. Yes thank God the 21st century doesn't have any of that.
 
/\"Is this the kind of wife you want, then? Not someone to help you — not a wife to cook, and sew, and cry, and need. This kind — selfish, vain, useless. Is this what you really want? All right then, here it is."

I find it a little hard to believe that people will be talking like this in the 23rd century.
 
^Well every Trek incarnation up to Abram's Trek XI had plenty of stilted, formal dialogue in it which is rarely the way real people speak. (unless you are a Vulcan)
 
^Well every Trek incarnation up to Abram's Trek XI had plenty of stilted, formal dialogue in it which is rarely the way real people speak. (unless you are a Vulcan)

Agreed. Kirk's "why're you talkin' to me, man?" and Uhura's "ohmygod! What's wrong with your hands?!" were a refreshing surprise in the movie.
 
IIRC, wasn't Sisko's dad a cook specializing in Cajun cuisine? So apparently even 19th century cooking is still a norm. And I remember an establishing shot outside of daddy Sisko's restaurant that showed horse drawn carriages as the main mode of transportation.
 
/\"Is this the kind of wife you want, then? Not someone to help you — not a wife to cook, and sew, and cry, and need. This kind — selfish, vain, useless. Is this what you really want? All right then, here it is."

It's about time, now stop crying and just stand there and look pretty while I cook and sew for us. ;)
 
^ Riker said "we don't enslave animals anymore", maybe that horse was mechanical?

If animals aren't enslaved anymore, than what the hell was Spot? Did he or she of whatever the hell its gender of the week was consent to be the property of an android serving aboard a starship?
 
Do you suppose Earth still has music bands for the different genres, pop, rock, punk etc, or would no one be interested in that sort of thing anymore and forming bands died off the same time as Television?
 
If animals aren't enslaved anymore, than what the hell was Spot?

I would imagine Spot, or Archer's beagles, etc. would have been considered "companion animals" and not "slaves." While extremist animal defense groups* (both in the future and today) may not make a distinction between a beloved animal considered as a family member with no labor or quid pro quo expected, clearly the rest of the galaxy does.

* Please do not take this as an opening for an anti-animal experimentation rant. I am extremely anti-vivisection, animal experimentation, you name it, and as a psychology major (where animal experiments are done) actively campaigned against it. I just don't think that most people, myself included, feel that including a dog or cat in the family is the moral equivalent of pre-civil war American slavery, and that attempts to do so diminish both the horror institution of slavery (and modern human trafficking) and the legitimate positions of those non-extremists who devote themselves to protecting the rights of animals.
 
/\"Is this the kind of wife you want, then? Not someone to help you — not a wife to cook, and sew, and cry, and need. This kind — selfish, vain, useless. Is this what you really want? All right then, here it is."

I find it a little hard to believe that people will be talking like this in the 23rd century.

I imagine everyone just grunting like a bunch of smart pigs.
 
If animals aren't enslaved anymore, than what the hell was Spot?

I would imagine Spot, or Archer's beagles, etc. would have been considered "companion animals" and not "slaves." While extremist animal defense groups* (both in the future and today) may not make a distinction between a beloved animal considered as a family member with no labor or quid pro quo expected, clearly the rest of the galaxy does.

* Please do not take this as an opening for an anti-animal experimentation rant. I am extremely anti-vivisection, animal experimentation, you name it, and as a psychology major (where animal experiments are done) actively campaigned against it. I just don't think that most people, myself included, feel that including a dog or cat in the family is the moral equivalent of pre-civil war American slavery, and that attempts to do so diminish both the horror institution of slavery (and modern human trafficking) and the legitimate positions of those non-extremists who devote themselves to protecting the rights of animals.

Indeed. I don't think I recall the last time my cats did something economically useful that I could exploit. Unless we're running cars on turds now, in which case Baby is squatting on a gold mine.

Absent human intervention, most cats or dogs would die, many horribly, from starvation, exposure, or infection. However, every one of my cat's kittens survived (though I suspect their father, if he's a feral cat, is no longer with us). The ordinary rate is rather substantially less. It's natural, but rather unpleasant.
 
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