Deleted scene where Spock explains how the timeline "healed itself"?

[Penhall99]

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I really wish a line about this has been included, because it would have gone a long way in explaining some of the staggering plot holes.

Still love the movie, though.

 

[GNDN]

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While watching the film for the first time in the theater, I mentally inserted a Spock-ian explanation ala City on the Edge for the 'currents and eddies' of time bringing Kirk and him together.

Never been a problem for me... although the 'destiny' lines do tip toward SW a bit too much (something i also felt on first viewing)

 

[Kelso]

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The heroes of the show have wound up together in every alternate universe story this franchise has done.

 

[David cgc]

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They came together in regular duty, and THEN they had some adventures, and only one of them involved a planet killing machine.

Actually, I can think of four off the top of my head.

 

[Kelso]

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They came together in regular duty, and THEN they had some adventures, and only one of them involved a planet killing machine.

Actually, I can think of four off the top of my head.

And that number increases if you include planet killing lifeforms.

 

[Beyerstein]

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If the timeline can heal it's self, will Vulcan go back together?

 

[Classic Fan]

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Yeah, it does go a long way to explain some of the plot holes. But to be honest, it didnt effect me, cos i had my own way of explaining certain events that were not explained in the movie.

But for the general audinece, i doubt they really cared, aslong as they got the jist of it, that was enough i suppose, without it being clogged up with temporal babble etc.

If the timeline can heal it's self, will Vulcan go back together?

And the headaches start.

 

[Destructor]

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Oddly enough, before the new film was even dreamed of, i used to wonder how the mirror universe (presumably being an alternate timeline itself) was so frequently similar to the prime universe (crew members ending up on the same ship repeatedly, for example). I had always theorized some kind of temporal force or echo (call it destiny if it pleases you) bringing events into alignment so that things, while different, are also sort of the same. Seems to apply here also.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

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Neither am I, but it would have been preferable to the old band of the TOS crew showing up on the Enterprise by a series of incredibly staggering coincidences.

They're only coincidences if you view these folks through the lens of TOS. Otherwise, it's simply happenstance that this group comes together.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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If the timeline can heal it's self, will Vulcan go back together?

Nope, but there is a scar.

 

[Green Shirt]

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I think the deal was that the line to which you refer was part of an earlier version of the script, but had been removed by the time filming started. I remember that one of the writers (Orci, iirc) was quoted as saying he would have liked to have kept it in.

Yeah, I read that in an interview in the Star Trek magazine.
Too bad, that was a cool concept.

Yeah, that is a cool concept. Like the timeline is some type of intelligent being trying to heal itself. Wish ours would heal itself so I can be somewhere else.

 

[cooleddie74]

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I've never been a fan of this destiny business in the film. I'm happy the line was omitted.

Neither am I, but it would have been preferable to the old band of the TOS crew showing up on the Enterprise by a series of incredibly staggering coincidences. Suggesting that's the timeline working mysteriously to heal parts of itself would at least be acknowledging the nature of the coincidences in an effort, however half-hearted, to explain them.

Oh well. When I first watched the film I got no impression there were two timelines anyway, to be honest - it's worded carefully so that interpretation might be drawn from it (as O&K insist) or it could just be seen as time being rewritten again.

I'VE come to accept the new timeline as wholly separate in most respects from the old, classic and well-trodden one. I guess in the TREK universe they might be the same in some quantum respects but for the sake of the audience's sanity and even many Trekkers' we should just consider this movie the start of a new and uncorrected timeline that skewed BACK TO THE FUTURE II-style from the original one and exists in its own right.

 

[Green Shirt]

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If the timeline can heal it's self, will Vulcan go back together?

Yeah, that's the plot of the next movie. Khan detonates the Genesis Device, destroys the universe, and it reassembles correctly.

 

[cooleddie74]

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If the timeline can heal it's self, will Vulcan go back together?

Yeah, that's the plot of the next movie. Khan detonates the Genesis Device, destroys the universe, and it reassembles correctly.

And then Christopher Lloyd's Commander Kruge rigs a Bird-of-Prey with a Mr. Fusion and hits 88 light years per hour so he can go back to 2233 and prevent Nero from ever arriving to begin with.