New observations after home viewing...

[Chrisisall]

Uh-oh...

[RANT]

Why is the Enterprise so prominently featured on the main menu if the movie itself is so low on ship-pron?!?!?!?
I
WANT
SHIP
PRON
!!!!!
[/RANT]

 

[Yeoman Randi]

^ True that. I would have loved to have seen a little more lovemaking to the ship like we saw in TMP.

You know what i love that i didnt pay attention to before i owned this? When the ships are leaving spacedock (on the way to Vulcan), how they come out on an angle and then the way they BOOM/POP into warp. OMG do i love that!!

 

[Chrisisall]

When the ships are leaving spacedock (on the way to Vulcan), how they come out on an angle and then the way they BOOM/POP into warp. OMG do i love that!!

That was very cool. Very Return Of The Jedi.

 

[Greg Cox]

I still cry when George Kirk dies ( KUDOS to Chris Hemsworth. He ROCKS!)

!

Agreed. I can't wait to see him play The Mighty Thor.

 

[Broccoli]

but that means then [Spock-Prime] isn't from the future of this alternate time line...or in other words he isn't from their future?

That is exactly it.

 

[marc0702]

I was never really concerned about the plot holes. Although the time travel scenario is still muddy to me. In some ways they want us to think that Spock Prime is coming back to the past of the same universe that he was originally from yet it created an parallel universe that co-exists with the original time line...but that means then he isn't from the future of this alternate time line...or in other words he isn't from their future?

I don't mean to open this can of worms again. But it seems they want it both ways and I have a difficult time resolving it.

I am personally okay with this thinking that this new time line is erasing the old time line even if that was not the intent . It makes better sense looking at it that way and it won't stop me from enjoying all my old DVDs.

The lens flares bother me less on TV as do the strange camera angles and shaky camera.

But what bothers me more is the scene where Kirk and Scotty are trying to evade security. It is so obvious that it is a brewery that it does momentarily take me out of the picture.

Other than that I really love this movie and the DVD.

I think you can use the same excuse as in First Contact, where the enterprise is caught in the "temporal wake" of the change... So Spock Prime was in the same wormhole as the Nerada, just arrived later, but still in the same timeline.

 

[OneBuckFilms]

I was never really concerned about the plot holes. Although the time travel scenario is still muddy to me. In some ways they want us to think that Spock Prime is coming back to the past of the same universe that he was originally from yet it created an parallel universe that co-exists with the original time line...but that means then he isn't from the future of this alternate time line...or in other words he isn't from their future?

Spock notices things that are different, aka Kirk's relationship with his younger self. Therefore, they made it CLEAR that Spock is NOT from the Alternate Reality future, and neither is Nero.

I saw no indication that Spock was from the Alternate reality future at all. Before 2233.04, they were actually the same universe.

I don't mean to open this can of worms again. But it seems they want it both ways and I have a difficult time resolving it.

I am personally okay with this thinking that this new time line is erasing the old time line even if that was not the intent . It makes better sense looking at it that way and it won't stop me from enjoying all my old DVDs.

It actually doesn't erase the Prime reality.

The lens flares bother me less on TV as do the strange camera angles and shaky camera.

But what bothers me more is the scene where Kirk and Scotty are trying to evade security. It is so obvious that it is a brewery that it does momentarily take me out of the picture.

I know what you mean. I love most of the movie, and they got so much RIGHT in my eyes, that I just pretend I didn't see the back wall and truck bay doors behind the equipment.

Other than that I really love this movie and the DVD.

 

[Zeppster]

It's amazing how much Chris Hemsworth looks like Chris Pine you would think they were brohters or something.

 

[TeutonicNights]

I'm pretty much okay with the clean upper levels/dirty lower levels thing.The engineering being so expansive is a good thing in my opinion.
It takes the focus away from some shiny central reaction chamber and makes it look like this is some huge, complicated machine.

On my second view I also liked the used look of the Kelvin (engine room, "worn" shuttle). Now Star Trek has adopted the "used" look of Wars before for the Federation, most notably in the 80s movies. But TNG has done away with that, and DS9 never really brought it back (let alone VOY and that other series).

I just wish it was more Bespin lower decks and less brewery, because it looked kinda cheap at times.
I hope this was a cost issue, not just an artistic choice.

 

[omnirad]

The lense flares in the outer space scenes is pointed out in the special features. I did not notice them so much in theater viewings (which is a good thing) because they do tie the live action scenes and space ships together subliminally.
For all the bitchin' about the damn lense flares and shakey-cam, it does give the film movement, life, and energy that no previous Trek has had.

The visual/sound design hangs together very well on DVD.This is defineately the most cinematic Trek since TMP.



P.S. J.J. Bring back the Red Alert klaxon for the sequel!

 

[Chrisisall]

This is defineately the most cinematic Trek since TMP.

 

[freak]

He even has the same postures!

Urban was amazing. Quinto as well.
But Chris Pine had the hardest job of all; re-creating Kirk without aping Shatner. And he was great IMO.

I think he was the most believable as McCoy. I loved him when he first meets Kirk. He seems like a hypocondriac and is absolutely histerical. And I loved his "I'm a Doctor not a..." antics.
Scotty, IMO, was also really good as well..I really got a real kick out of his sidekick.
Pine was very believable as Kirk-he is growing on me as well!!!!

 

[freak]

When the ships are leaving spacedock (on the way to Vulcan), how they come out on an angle and then the way they BOOM/POP into warp. OMG do i love that!!

That was very cool. Very Return Of The Jedi.

Actually, the jump to warp kinda reminded me of nBSG.

 

[Amaris]

He even has the same postures!

Urban was amazing. Quinto as well.
But Chris Pine had the hardest job of all; re-creating Kirk without aping Shatner. And he was great IMO.

I think he was the most believable as McCoy. I loved him when he first meets Kirk. He seems like a hypocondriac and is absolutely histerical. And I loved his "I'm a Doctor not a..." antics.
Scotty, IMO, was also really good as well..I really got a real kick out of his sidekick.
Pine was very believable as Kirk-he is growing on me as well!!!!

The "I don't need a Doctor, I AM a Doctor" rant was brilliant.

J.

 

[Guardian Bob]

When the ships are leaving spacedock (on the way to Vulcan), how they come out on an angle and then the way they BOOM/POP into warp. OMG do i love that!!

That was very cool. Very Return Of The Jedi.

Actually, the jump to warp kinda reminded me of nBSG.

I liked that, but wish for a tiny sparkle when at the end of the warp sequence. It just feels more star trek to me.

 

[1001001]

We saw it once in the theater, and then we bought the video and watched it tonight.

I don't know if I have anything new to add. This time it made a little more sense. I was able to pick up on a few things that were somewhat confusing the first time (some of the Spock/Nero stuff), but nothing major.

I can say I liked even better this time than before. This is really a great, fun film.

 

[Voyagerian]

Just finished my second viewing. First i watched it alone, second time i watched with my almost 16 year old daughter who has, until this day, refused to EVER watch ANY Star Trek with me.

She loved it. She is now expressing interest in watching TOS and on up. JJ worked magic where i couldn't!

Yay!! My 15 year old daughter went to see it with me in the theater after expressing that Star Trek was "embarrassing" and not watching it with us (despite having seen all of VOY when younger.) After she saw STXI her exact words were "I want to start watching Star Trek with you again". She LOVED it.. and she has been watching it with us most nights since. The movie dvd.. TOS.. ENT. That's what we are currently watching and she abandons MSN chat with her friends and watches them with us.

Last night she ignored a call and then turned off her phone so she wouldn't be interrupted watching The Tholian Web.

This movie is awesome!!! See how it trekkifies the unbelievers..

Oh and I still cry when George Kirk dies too.. so much impact (and not just the Kelvin hitting the Narada, LOL)

NOONE should be interrupted whilst watching TTW....but if it's for ST, guess that'd be okay...Now I know where lens flares are born...and how good J.J. is at a certain very familiar making-the-product activity for Treks many...but also wishing my tv were a movie screen, so I could watch it as it's best seen-the letterbox limits, but I still enjoyed.Robau has what I now call The Stare...HE IS BAD, INDEED!!...George is all the more the hero as he was the last two times I saw him, Karl, he surely is 'The Real McCoy'...the music I like so isn't where at all times I imagined it was...but s'okay!...the Bridge surely is a terrific set I'D love to have played in as a kid-heck, now!...what the heck is Uhura doing down with all those 'tanks' and etc. belowdecks,,,

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Ahh check it: I really liked Pine's take of the "Space, the final frontier" monologue. He does it well.

No it's not in the movie. Check the "gag reel" and you'll hear it.

 

[startrekrcks]

heard Chris on the Gag Reel he does it well doesn't he.

 

[Amaris]

Indeed he does.

Honestly, I just finished watching this movie for the 5th time and it just keeps getting better.


J.