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Clash Of The Titans (2009)

Really? I'm trying to see the potentially interesting movie "around" the godawful trailer.

Yeah the visuals look great, but it's hard to form a good idea of the final product with that stupid rock music in the background.

I was also disappointed not to see any sign of a Pegasus. I realize they probably considered it too "girly" for such a macho movie... but come on, it's such an iconic part of the original!

Hopefully it'll at least make a small cameo.
 
Pegasus is in the trailer. You can see Perseus riding a horse on the beach...what a novel idea, but I digress...and if you stop a minute to consider the horse's profile, you'll realize its' Pegasus with his wings folded back.
 
I always prefered JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS myself....


Yes!!! I saw that as a kid and it led to countless hours of fantasy roleplaying for me - whether I was being the old Hercules (I was disappointed by his short role tho') throwing the discus farther than anyone or Jason... or .... holding up "Scylla and Charybdis" to let the Argo pass.

I have seen it later too and quite enjoyed it.

Re Harryhausen and stop-motion, most young kids just roll their eyes at the "awful fx". At least my nephews did.... The trick I believe is to catch them early (4 - 7) and show them these classic movies.
 
I find it odd that Gemma Arterton is the "chick" in both this movie and Prince of Persia.

I mean, good for her, she's a sexy, talented actress so I say bring it on but I'm surprised the studio that made whichever film went into production second didn't decide to go a different direction. I guess it's just that they're both sword & sandals fantasy films with the same lead actress both coming out a few months apart is weird to me.
 
I always prefered JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS myself....


Yes!!! I saw that as a kid and it led to countless hours of fantasy roleplaying for me - whether I was being the old Hercules (I was disappointed by his short role tho') throwing the discus farther than anyone or Jason... or .... holding up "Scylla and Charybdis" to let the Argo pass.

I have seen it later too and quite enjoyed it.

Re Harryhausen and stop-motion, most young kids just roll their eyes at the "awful fx". At least my nephews did.... The trick I believe is to catch them early (4 - 7) and show them these classic movies.

Yeah I recently saw Argonauts for the first time, and I was amazed at how good it was. I was expecting something really cheesy, slow, and dated, but the pacing and storytelling were so strong it almost felt as if Spielberg had directed it.

And the FX sequences and creature designs were all awesome too, and have held up surprisingly well.
 
^ It really captures the imagination... It's the storytelling...

However, when I saw it recently the Harpies and skeleton fighting (which had scared me quite a bit as a child) seemed a little cheesy to me.

Back to Clash of the Titans - Don't know whether it's been asked before but why is everybody dressed like Roman soldiers? Also I want to see Zeus and all the gods. (I also want to see a Troy with the gods taking an active role, but I digress)
 
The trailer certainly looks like a lot of fun. While it's doubtful that the remake will capture the "magic" of the original, I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand. But given the current release date of March 26, it doesn't appear that the studio thinks it's got what it takes to make a big splash. That might mean it's more style than substance.

But I'll go see it regardless.
 
I love the original and I am looking forward to the remake.

Even though the original has that magical sense of fantasy a grittier more realistic telling can be very exciting and suspenseful and that can be good in and of itself.
 
The trailer certainly looks like a lot of fun. While it's doubtful that the remake will capture the "magic" of the original, I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand. But given the current release date of March 26, it doesn't appear that the studio thinks it's got what it takes to make a big splash. That might mean it's more style than substance.

But I'll go see it regardless.

Maybe they are hoping they can pull a 300. That came out in the spring and made a good pile of cash.
 
True ... I'm sure there will be plenty of comparisons between the two ... and you can probably expect a boxofficemojo.com showdown between the gross incomes of both flicks.
 
Maybe when this remake is released, there will be a spiffed up DVD release for the original movie. The one available now is pretty unimpressive.
 
I'm as much a Harryhousen fan as the next moviegoer of... what... over 40. In my mind, I rather combine CotT and JatA. I remember watching the movies, and during the sfx scenes I was properly awed.

But... I didn't watch those movies becuase I was a Harryhousen fan, I watched because I'm a Sci-Fi / Fantasy fan. I've watched some better and many worse S&S movies. The reason I own them in my video collection, or will linger if their on TV is because they don't suck, and Harryhausen did some fine work.

While Harryhausen did fine work, and other (IMHO) more interesting work than in CotT, others did stop motion well enough. I think people are giving him more credit for technical skill and less for interesting movie making.

IF the new CotT fails, it won't be because people missed the quaint stop motion effects, it will be because they failed to bring an interesting movie to the screen, and they need not be the same interesting thing from ancient times.
 
Trailer looks good, but that rock music being played over it is obnoxious...hope they have a good film composer doing the music for the film!

I have found that genre movies with rock music in the trailer end up sucking...
 
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NOBODY will ever capture what Ray Harryhausen did in ANY of his films. It's not even worth trying.

I have met the man on many occasions and have been an afficianado of his work for years.

The man was a genius. What he was able to do with those stop motion models was...well...pure genius.

They might do a better job technically with the remake, but I doubt they'll capture the same mood and character Harryhausen did.

As brilliant as CGI is...it never feels as "warm" as stop motion did. And stop motion just seemed to fit the kinds of stories Harryhause told in his films...

His work on COT wasn't very good and basically finished off stop motion in movies.


It was excellent...just like all the others.

Where's your movie? Who else can you name that can do all of that awesome work -- pretty much BY HIMSELF?

And I think quite a few professionals in the VFX field would disagree with your views on what "finished off" stop motion in movies...not the least of which would be Tim Burton.

What "finished off" stop motion was the audience supposedly becoming more "sophisticated"...and thinking stop motion was something "quaint" and not up to standard.

The art was on it's way out after Star Wars (1977). Much of that had to do with the public's fascination with all things space.

People were (I exclude myself from this), by that time, not much interested in the mythological stories that Harryhausen's films were mired in.

Still, Harryhausen took one last grand stab at stop motion in 1981 and I thought it was a great Harryhausen film...

Harryhausen and his proteges' even claimed it was subpar work, despite a larger budget. You could look up Starlog issues from the time where they said so. The movie itself didn't turn out too well either. Genuinely a movie deserving of a remake.

RAMA
 
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His work on COT wasn't very good and basically finished off stop motion in movies.

First off, Clash of the Titans was the only film where Harryhausen had assistant animators rather than doing all the work himself, so maybe that's why you perceive a change in the quality of the work.

Second, there were many major uses of stop-motion in cinema after CotT, mostly the work of Phil Tippett at ILM. There were the tauntauns, AT-ATs, and Rancor in Star Wars, there was Dragonslayer, there was the mine-car sequence in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, there was the flying-bike sequence in E.T., there were the devil dogs in Ghostbusters, there was the bat Gremlin in Gremlins 2, etc. Probably the last great stop-motion special effects set pieces in a live-action film were Tippett's work in RoboCop 2.

What "finished off" stop-motion was the advent of practical, realistic CGI. When Spielberg was making Jurassic Park, he intended to use stop-motion for the full-length, running, jumping, and other dinosaur shots that couldn't be achieved practically with Stan Winston's on-set animatronics, but then ILM's computer graphics department demonstrated that they could do it more convincingly, and so Tippett's team ended up using digital "puppets" instead of latex-and-metal ones. (Actually the JP dinosaurs were animated using the equivalent of stop-motion techniques, since the animators worked with armatures covered in position sensors rather than latex skin, manipulating them the same way they would work with stop-motion puppets, but inputting their position data into computers rather than photographing them. So it was kind of a hybrid of stop-motion and CG.)

Yes stop-motion was used in films after it, but if you have to point to a historical milestone where stop-motion was overtaken by other mechanical/opitcal effects, it was COT. Even the further uses of stop-motion did nothing but show its limitations. Taun tauns looked fake; same with the Rancor; Robocop scenes were fairly jerky. FX artists didn't use it unless they absolutely HAD to. It was Spielberg who was desperate for an alternative to the stop motion he was going to use that really had to kill it off (with a little help from Dennis Muren et al).

EDIT: Wow I just looked at the new trailer for the first time...amazing work.
RAMA
 
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I think they used Go-Motion for the Rancor...if memory serves (and it's admittedly cloudy due to the passage of time). I'd have to go back and peruse my collection of Cinefex issues to jump-start the old ganglia (or "gangula" as the good Dr. McCoy would say...lol!) on that one...
 
A second trailer has leaked with glimpses of Medusa and Pegasus, and a pretty good look at the Kraken.

http://www.filmofilia.com/2009/12/13/new-clash-of-the-titans-trailer/

Giving the Kraken a few tentacles is a creative way to blend the creature from the original film with the one of legend. They also look slightly reminiscent of the octopus tentacles in 'It Came From Beneath the Sea,' which is a nice touch, if intentional.
 
Holy crap. That looks intense. I'm not a fan for basically recylcing the music and some of the same structure for the second trailer (WB did the same with Sherlock Holmes ... is it really that difficult to cut an entirely new trailer?), but it is non-surprisingly light on dialogue & plot, and heavy on visuals. The visuals look good.
 
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