The Tenth Doctor and his attitude(spoilers)

[Samurai8472]

So a few days ago there was this interview with Tennant

http://tennantnews.blogspot.com/2009/10/press-launch-interview-transcipt.html

And we start to see the end of The Tenth Doctor's journey here, don't we?
David: "Well I think this gives you a bit of a hint - the fact that The Ood have come to summon the Doctor and the fact that the Doctor now knows incontrovertibly that he's running from his own demise and at the very end he says: 'No, I'm not going - I'm going to rage against the dying of the light' which hints at the final story I suppose.!

Then there was this bit from "Journey's End"

The Doctor: You see! Used the regeneration energy to heal myself, but as soon as that was done, I didn't need to change. I didn't want to, why would I? Look at me.

The Doctor's has to know he might regenerate. All this fighting against the inevitable seems a bit unnecessary.

Ofcourse The Doctor might actually think he's going to die and rule out regeneration completely.

From the regeneration clips off youtube, It seems like he'll go out like the second doctor(protesting and yelling)

As far as I know, no other doctor complained this much.

 

[Joy]

I wonder if Ten is "complaining" because he actually has TIME to. After watching regenerations on YouTube as well as reading about them on Wikipedia, it seems like most of the Doctor's incarnations regenerated without much warning. Ten, on the other hand, has had quite a bit of time to ponder on the idea that his death is eminent and perhaps this time he won't be regenerating (of course we all know he will, but he doesn't). So of course, he's not very happy about the idea that it's all going to be over very soon; the whole "your song must end" thing sounds more final than "this version of you must end"...

Joy

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

The 4th Doctor seemed to know that he was going to Regenerate and didn't seem to mind it after all this time. "It is the end. But the moment has been prepared for." Maybe he was just bummed that Romana was gone.

The 5th & 9th Doctors didn't make much of a fuss about Regenerating because they understood the sacrifices they were making to save their companions.

The 10th Doctor has always seemed a little bipolar to me. He's such a pleasant guy, yet he'll often turn into a screaming lunatic if you cross him. Some of that was established very early on in "The Christmas Invasion." "No second chances. I'm that kind of man." He's often gone very dark, like what he did to the Family of Blood or when he drowned the Raknoss in "The Runaway Bride." He's like a kid who gets upset whenever some bad guy interrupts the party. His emotions can turn on a dime, like when he yelled at the guy running the asylum in "The Shakespeare Code" or when he made that speech at the end of "The Doctor's Daughter." He can create a genocidal clone of himself to do the dirty work and then abandon him in a petulant fit of morality ("Journey's End").

One scene I often think of is when Astrid dies in "Voyage of the Damned." As the Doctor fails to save her, he screams, "I can do anything!" Those are the words of the cocky young god raging against his own limitations.

 

[BlastHardcheese]

The 10th Doctor has always seemed a little bipolar to me. He's such a pleasant guy, yet he'll often turn into a screaming lunatic if you cross him.

I have to disagree with this assessment. If anything, to me the 10th Doctor seems like an old man who let the weight of the universe make him very jaded indeed. Like he was screaming at the universe because he spent all his life trying to make things better and the example he set has inspired nobody. There are still evil forces out there and he knows he can't fight them forever.

He's often gone very dark, like what he did to the Family of Blood or when he drowned the Raknoss in "The Runaway Bride." He's like a kid who gets upset whenever some bad guy interrupts the party.

I'm concerned that you equate genocide with "interrupting the party" or to use a different metaphor with the exact same meaning: "urinating in someone's cornflakes". They're not the same at all.

His emotions can turn on a dime, like when he yelled at the guy running the asylum in "The Shakespeare Code" or when he made that speech at the end of "The Doctor's Daughter."

He made a speech at the end after seeing his own daughter killed and refusing to take revenge on the man who did it. He is at the very least entitled to a speech, you insensitive dalek.

He can create a genocidal clone of himself to do the dirty work and then abandon him in a petulant fit of morality ("Journey's End").

A clone he didn't know would be created, who he did not want to commit genocide and was so upset with, and so he couldn't bear to face that part of himself. I personally think it was a bit of a poor plot device to wrap up the story and give Rose a happy ending, but that's just me.

One scene I often think of is when Astrid dies in "Voyage of the Damned." As the Doctor fails to save her, he screams, "I can do anything!" Those are the words of the cocky young god raging against his own limitations.

I took those words to be of a tired old god who was in so much pain for not being able to hold back death and keep innocent people safe that any chance to save someone who got tangled up with him would make him feel like he was making a difference again. There's a reason why he refused to have any more companions after "Journey's End".

 

[Marc]

The 4th Doctor seemed to know that he was going to Regenerate and didn't seem to mind it after all this time. "It is the end. But the moment has been prepared for." Maybe he was just bummed that Romana was gone.

The 5th & 9th Doctors didn't make much of a fuss about Regenerating because they understood the sacrifices they were making to save their companions.

That's actually pretty irrelevant - in this instance the 10th Doctor has know for sometime that his end is near, the 5th didn't know that he'd spill the bat milk that would counter the spectrox poisoning so he didn't know his time was an end.

The 9th Doctor knew as events unfolded that time was up but prior to the events of his last story this nothing to indicated his end was near either.

 

[DWF]

The 4th Doctor seemed to know that he was going to Regenerate and didn't seem to mind it after all this time. "It is the end. But the moment has been prepared for." Maybe he was just bummed that Romana was gone.

When the Watcher told the Doctor on the bridge what was going to happen to him he didn't look all that pleased. I'm sure it was pretty surreal that he was told be another verision of himself about his own future but he appeared to be resigned to his fate none the less.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

He's often gone very dark, like what he did to the Family of Blood or when he drowned the Raknoss in "The Runaway Bride." He's like a kid who gets upset whenever some bad guy interrupts the party.

I'm concerned that you equate genocide with "interrupting the party" or to use a different metaphor with the exact same meaning: "urinating in someone's cornflakes". They're not the same at all.

What I mean here is that there is something almost delusionally manic about the 10th Doctor most of the time. It's as if he's always playing the clown or the MC with the entire universe as his audience. I get this strong sense of denial from the 10th Doctor and I think he resents it whenever some villain shows up to remind him of how dangerous & deadly the universe is. The 10th Doctor seems at times both far more cheerful and far more wrathful than any of the 1st 7 Doctors.

He made a speech at the end after seeing his own daughter killed and refusing to take revenge on the man who did it. He is at the very least entitled to a speech, you insensitive dalek.

He was entitled to a speech. It's the content of the speech that I object to. The Doctor puts himself on a high horse and describes himself as "the man who never would." That's great except for the times that he did. I believe there are some examples from classic Doctor Who that I don't recall right now. There was the incident with the Raknoss in "The Runaway Bride." From what little we know of the Time War, the Doctor would seem to have lots of blood on his hands. Didn't someone once call him "the killer of his own kind"? (I think it may have been "Satan" in "The Impossible Planet"/"The Satan Pit" but I'm not sure.)

While I've no doubt that the Doctor always has the best of intentions, I think his brand of justice is very arbitrary. He would drown the Raknoss without pity in "The Runaway Bride" but would offer last-minute sanctuary to genocidal maniacs like the Master in "Last of the Time Lords" & Davros in "Journey's End."

The 5th & 9th Doctors didn't make much of a fuss about Regenerating because they understood the sacrifices they were making to save their companions.

That's actually pretty irrelevant - in this instance the 10th Doctor has know for sometime that his end is near, the 5th didn't know that he'd spill the bat milk that would counter the spectrox poisoning so he didn't know his time was an end.

The 9th Doctor knew as events unfolded that time was up but prior to the events of his last story this nothing to indicated his end was near either.

My point is that the 5th & 9th Doctors chose to die so that they could save Peri & Rose. While the 10th Doctor may be aware of his impending demise, that doesn't mean he has any choice in the matter. That might make him a little upset.

 

[matthunter]

Like he was screaming at the universe because he spent all his life trying to make things better and the example he set has inspired nobody.

He's really not paying attention then, because he inspired Rose, Mickey, Jack, Martha and Donna to go out and try to make a difference. Rose joined alt-Torchwood, Mickey stayed to fight the Cybermen, Martha joined UNIT and Jack rebuilt our Torchwood as something better. Donna went out investigating alien weirdness as a shortcut to finding the Dcotor, but she still tried to help people. Then there's Sarah-Jane...

If he thinks he hasn't inspired anyone then he really is as "old and thick" as he said in Tooth and Claw.

 

[Jax]

His old versions wouldn't complain that much for one TV writing was different back then a little stale in emotional department I always felt. But if your looking for an in universe reason maybe because they had plenty and plenty of regenerations left but now after this only 2 more...

He knows that he is getting closer to actual DEATH.

 

[biotech]

Or possibly only one more if he wasted one on his hand.

That sounds so wrong.