Castle: "Vampire Weekend" 10/26 - Grading & Discussion
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I loved the little references to Firefly and Buffy but missed the Underworld one. Wasn't sure what Alexis was supposed to be but seeing Susan Sullivan flash open her costume was funny if not a little disturbing.
Good episode, loved the story Castle told near the end about the body he found when he was five. Great job keeping a straight face and loved how Beckett got him back. As usual, great one liners in the show between the cast – great writers on this show.
Good episode, loved the story Castle told near the end about the body he found when he was five. Great job keeping a straight face and loved how Beckett got him back. As usual, great one liners in the show between the cast – great writers on this show.
An elf? I thought she was Poison Ivy (red hair, green outfit with ivy all over it, general nerdiness of the authors and many comic references in the show).
Poison Ivy doesn't have pointed ears.
Of course they weren't conscious. That's not the point. The point is that I have trouble believing that memories from the age of 2 could be retained in that detail at all, consciously or subconsciously. It's hard to believe that someone could duplicate the shape a tree that perfectly from memory even if he'd seen it just a few weeks before, let alone if it was 18 years before and he was only 2 years old at the time. I could buy a vaguely similar, impressionistic rendering of the tree, but not such an exact duplication of the specific shape of its branches. Human memory just doesn't work that way.
Well, it's only anecdotal evidence but I have a *very* clear memory of a moment when I was two or even younger. And it's more of a 'snapshot' than it is a memory of events, similar to the drawing that was made in this episode. My first clear memorie of events begins around 5, but I've got several of those 'snapshots' which my family verifies as being accurate.
Jan
My grade: ABOVE AVERAGE
With all the genre in-jokes I'm inclined to want to give it an 'excellent' grade but since this is only the 4 full episode I've seen I'm erring on the side of caution.
I came into the episode a few minutes late so missed the Buffy line and exchange with his daughter. Did hear him tell Beckett in the cemetary his outfit was a "space cowboy" and hoped it was a nod to Mal. The Underworld discussion about Lucien was funny as well.
All that aside I thought the episode was good. Since all these shows are formularic one has a 1-in-5 chance of guessing "who done it". Its always a guest star to which there are rarely more than 5. My first instinct was father, shame on me he was the obvious red herring. Once the 18yr span was revealed that ruled out the daughter. The vampire lover lady had her story check out and 'Crow's' friend was dead eliminating those for you. By the third act it had to be 1-of-2 people cause Morlock didn't kill the one lady 18yrs ago.
Mom or Dad, and my 50/50 choice in the 3rd act was wrong. ARGH!!
It is a good show I just don't do procedual shows with regularity. Its always a "Moonlighting" situation tied either with forensics, cops, doctors or lawyers and for me that is sooo played out. Can someone tell me if this show is a bit more than that. I watch BONES via Netflix cause like Boston Legal its more characters than procedual(imo). Is Castle more like these two or more like traditional procedual? LIFE was good cause it was exploring a mystery where the proceduals were a backdrop to the main mystery. Anything like that happening here on Castle?
With all the genre in-jokes I'm inclined to want to give it an 'excellent' grade but since this is only the 4 full episode I've seen I'm erring on the side of caution.
I came into the episode a few minutes late so missed the Buffy line and exchange with his daughter. Did hear him tell Beckett in the cemetary his outfit was a "space cowboy" and hoped it was a nod to Mal. The Underworld discussion about Lucien was funny as well.
All that aside I thought the episode was good. Since all these shows are formularic one has a 1-in-5 chance of guessing "who done it". Its always a guest star to which there are rarely more than 5. My first instinct was father, shame on me he was the obvious red herring. Once the 18yr span was revealed that ruled out the daughter. The vampire lover lady had her story check out and 'Crow's' friend was dead eliminating those for you. By the third act it had to be 1-of-2 people cause Morlock didn't kill the one lady 18yrs ago.
Mom or Dad, and my 50/50 choice in the 3rd act was wrong. ARGH!!
It is a good show I just don't do procedual shows with regularity. Its always a "Moonlighting" situation tied either with forensics, cops, doctors or lawyers and for me that is sooo played out. Can someone tell me if this show is a bit more than that. I watch BONES via Netflix cause like Boston Legal its more characters than procedual(imo). Is Castle more like these two or more like traditional procedual? LIFE was good cause it was exploring a mystery where the proceduals were a backdrop to the main mystery. Anything like that happening here on Castle?
BEST. ENTRANCE. EVER.
Gets an 'excellent' from me, just for the first 15 seconds of the episode alone.
"What are you supposed to be?"
"Space Cowboy!"
Gets an 'excellent' from me, just for the first 15 seconds of the episode alone.
"What are you supposed to be?"
"Space Cowboy!"
BEST. ENTRANCE. EVER.
Gets an 'excellent' from me, just for the first 15 seconds of the episode alone.
"What are you supposed to be?"
"Space Cowboy!"
Agreed, that was classic.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the comics reference. I don't remember the details because I'm not a comics fan, but the fact that Beckett knew that the artist Castle mentioned had acknowledged "periods" of work was a cute little scene.
Overall, I loved the episode, especially for the in-jokes, but I seem to always love this show. The fangasms were just icing on the Castle cake this week.
Overall, I loved the episode, especially for the in-jokes, but I seem to always love this show. The fangasms were just icing on the Castle cake this week.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the comics reference. I don't remember the details because I'm not a comics fan, but the fact that Beckett knew that the artist Castle mentioned had acknowledged "periods" of work was a cute little scene.
Right. They were talking about Frank Miller.
(Not sure I buy Beckett as a comic book fan, though.)
Right, she said in response to Castle liking Miller, "Really, his Epic years or Sin City?"I'm surprised no one's mentioned the comics reference. I don't remember the details because I'm not a comics fan, but the fact that Beckett knew that the artist Castle mentioned had acknowledged "periods" of work was a cute little scene.
Right. They were talking about Frank Miller.
(Not sure I buy Beckett as a comic book fan, though.)
Normal memories, maybe not, but traumatic ones? Seeing your mother murdered? Sure - especially in the case of an artist whose mental processes are highly visual. I can recall specific visuals from moments when I was 3 or 4; not the general day-to-day stuff, but I could draw you the house I lived in then, the lilac bush in the back yard. I crashed my tricycle down the front steps at that time - I could definitely draw the front porch and sidewalk where I fell and skinned my knees and bumped my head. So if I had witnessed my mother's murder at gunpoint, even at 2 years old, whether I could consciously recall the details or not, I have no problem at all with someone who had that experience being guided by it when pen meets paper. I'll argue that human memory definitely works that way.
Yeah that was awesome!
Right, she said in response to Castle liking Miller, "Really, his Epic years or Sin City?"I'm surprised no one's mentioned the comics reference. I don't remember the details because I'm not a comics fan, but the fact that Beckett knew that the artist Castle mentioned had acknowledged "periods" of work was a cute little scene.
Right. They were talking about Frank Miller.
(Not sure I buy Beckett as a comic book fan, though.)
No, she said "Which Frank? Epic Comic or Dark Horse years?"
Detective Ryan, who was dressed as a doctor, also played a doctor on General Hospital according to his IMDB resume.
No. I just figure when a joke "falls flat" (which is very rare on this show), that's it's a Firefly reference and some folks elsewhere are laughing hysterically, and I move on. Fortunately, there's usually enough non-FF humor to make the bit work on its own level.
--Ted
The only other Firefly reference (that wasn't a joke, BTW) that I'm aware of is Castle saying something about "hands of blue" earlier this season.
If a joke fails, that can't be blamed on the writers trying to appeal to Firefly's fandom.
