Inspired by my recent experience with Paranormal Activity(the movie not the phenomena). Do you beleive in the supernatural? I don't mean like God, but ghosts, witchcraft, demons, psychics, etc. Have you ever had an experience with supernatural entities? I am an atheist so I am pretty much in the no camp.
Do you believe in the Supernatural
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I'm a skeptic, through and through. However, I'm also imaginative and enjoy the supernatural, even though I know it's all bunk.
Absolutely.
Are you speaking of the occult/paranormal when you say "supernatural"? In other words, the negative forces? Or are you including positive forces such as angels as well?
I don't believe in things like psychics, witchcraft, ghosts, fortune telling, astrology, ouija boards, John Edward, etc. Those are Halloween parlor tricks, nothing more. Total bunk, all of them.
However I do believe that Satan, hell, demons, etc. do exist. They can't harm me, though, 'cuz I've got...protection.
I believe I will go "uptown" rather than "downtown" after I die...
Angels? As long as you mean *real* angels, absolutely I believe in them. (Conversely, while I do respect the talent of the baseball team of the same name, I definitely don't root for *them*... ) I like to call them God's cheering section. 
However I do believe that Satan, hell, demons, etc. do exist. They can't harm me, though, 'cuz I've got...protection.
I believe I will go "uptown" rather than "downtown" after I die...Angels? As long as you mean *real* angels, absolutely I believe in them. (Conversely, while I do respect the talent of the baseball team of the same name, I definitely don't root for *them*...
) I like to call them God's cheering section.
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I do and I have seen it!!!
I saw a ghost, I even went to turn on a light in a room and a ice cold hand touched mine.
I saw a pookha when I was a kid.
I saw a ghost, I even went to turn on a light in a room and a ice cold hand touched mine.
I saw a pookha when I was a kid.
No.
Hmmm, I wouldn't confine it to negative forces, but I also don't want to just turn it into just a religion thread. I would say with angels the question would be do you believe they routinely come to earth and interact with people. Not do you think the angel Gabriel is in heaven with God, but do you think people have guardian angels or anonymous angels walk the earth effecting our lives?
Everybody believes in the Supernatural. Some of us just use a different word for it. Anything that can't be explained that doesn't occur naturally as we know it is supernatural. For that matter, most of modern life would have once been filed in the "supernatural" category.
There is so much that we don't understand - and always will be, most likely - that regardless of what camp one stands in; Atheist, Agnostic, Religious... there is always a mystery out there that brings added depth and meaning to life, and of course, the occasionally apparently unexplainable event.
There is so much that we don't understand - and always will be, most likely - that regardless of what camp one stands in; Atheist, Agnostic, Religious... there is always a mystery out there that brings added depth and meaning to life, and of course, the occasionally apparently unexplainable event.
The word itself PROVES it doesn't exist. If any of it is ever found to be real then it'd be natural.
That's the best part about the 'Ghostbuster' films. They simply assume that if ghosts are ever found then science would be able to track and capture them. It's not even questioned in the movie, it's simply the way the universe works. Ghosts aren't 'supernatural' in that movie. They're just 'natural.'
Same thing in our reality. If ghosts are real, we'll be able to detect them in some way.
Does that mean they don't exist? Of course not. There are TONS of things science hasn't discovered yet. There very well could be ghosts out there. I'm just saying that there's no point whatsoever in believing in them before someone makes a machine that proves they exist.
That's the best part about the 'Ghostbuster' films. They simply assume that if ghosts are ever found then science would be able to track and capture them. It's not even questioned in the movie, it's simply the way the universe works. Ghosts aren't 'supernatural' in that movie. They're just 'natural.'
Same thing in our reality. If ghosts are real, we'll be able to detect them in some way.
Does that mean they don't exist? Of course not. There are TONS of things science hasn't discovered yet. There very well could be ghosts out there. I'm just saying that there's no point whatsoever in believing in them before someone makes a machine that proves they exist.
I disagree with your definition. Supernatural does not equal unexplained.
Those things that once were not explained but have since been were never supernatural - they were just unexplained but were always natural.
Everything in this entire universe is natural. Nothing that exists in this universe is supernatural.
^ Reminds me of this bit from ST IV:
"What is Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law of metaphysics?"
"Nothing unreal exists."
"What is Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law of metaphysics?"
"Nothing unreal exists."
I do believe in the existence of supernatural things. That said, I also think there are a lot of people who lie about their supposed abilities or experiences, or who are simply mistaken. Between that and my belief that as a Christian I need fear that such forces could ever get the upper hand, I truly don't give those sort of phenomena the time of day and I don't buy into paranormal scares, apocalyptic hysteria, and so on.
As for "supernatural," I do think it is possible that there are different "planes" or "dimensions" for lack of a better word. It might be an imprecise term, but I think of it as describing those things that operate outside the bounds and/or normal rules of the ordinary four dimensions.
As for "supernatural," I do think it is possible that there are different "planes" or "dimensions" for lack of a better word. It might be an imprecise term, but I think of it as describing those things that operate outside the bounds and/or normal rules of the ordinary four dimensions.
If there are more than 4 demensions than they exist as a naturally occurring phenomena. Just because a phenomena is not often seen or experience by us doesn't make it any less real.
Depends what you mean. I don't believe in Gods or devils or demons or angels but I do believe there are things and forces out there that we have yet to discover. At one point I took a strict atheistic perspective but it just never seemed right to me; it seemed almost too easy. So, yes, I think there are things out there that we've yet to find.
I don't see how thinking that there are things left for us to discover is going against atheist belief in any way at all.
Depends on how you define atheist, I guess.
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