I just had to ask, is Hank Pym having a new nervous breakdown?

[Guy Gardener]

Seriously, I'm half way thought Mighty Avengers 30, and the Universe just ordained him earth's Scientist Supreme. High tea with the fracking universe!... Hey? Isn't that what AIM calls it's head honcho? O? Aim might be a quasireligious organization after all? And if he's been tapped by "God" then AIM might have no choice but to flock to him.

Oh, and he's fucking a robot with the voice and brain patterns of his dead wife.

But I'm good with the transvestitism.

Dudes cracking up.

 

[Nick Ryder]

Scientist Supreme? Uh oh... yeah that's AIM alright... gee... how much you wanna bet we're in for an "ULTRON REIGNS DARKLY!" storyline or something? I mean that mofo has been part of some of the most crazy ass stuff. Look at the Sentient Armor debacle. Ultron.

Hanky boy will probably clone him a new Janet who will promptly charge up his credit cards, design 50 new costumes and then still go and fuck Hawkeye.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Like Mockingbird wouldn't snap that clones neck before her archer got an inch of his shaft into her lady quiver.

 

[Forbin]

Like Mockingbird wouldn't snap that clones neck before her archer got an inch of his shaft into her lady quiver.

Wordsmithing genius!!

I think hank has basically been having a nervous breakdown for 40 years now, starting with the Yellowjacket thing.

 

[CaptainCanada]

AIM's already got a leader; Pym's variant of the title, given by Eternity, is the opposite of the "Sorcerer Supreme" job.

As for the nervous breakdown idea, Slott's whole run is about building Hank up as a character.

 

[Guy Gardener]

yeah I got that.

But Wong, or his cousin mentioned in The Oah is going to work for Doctor Voodoo in his bleeker street mansion.

Trappings of the job.

You don't think that this is the fist Scientist Supreme that Eternity has selected?

Hydra is deeply mystical worshipping the first evil, when it's not purely about nazi Gold. AIM is an offshoot from Hydra.

It's just a silly hypothesis. AIM is to the Scientist Supreme like Wong is to the Sorcerer Supreme.

Although, you will remember that according to JMS's Fantastic Four a couple years back, that Eternity is really Reed Richards from a previous iteration of the timeline backed up from a do-over groundhogday.

Reed could just be being a deush as usual?

 

[Luckyflux]

Is Hank Pym smarter than Reed Richards?

Is Hank Pym a better scientist than Reed Richards?

I always thought Mr Fantastic was the smartest human in the world.


EDIT--These are innocent questions, not looking to stir the pot. I haven't read comics in many, many years, but from what I remember Reed Richards was always the smartest. Is that correct?

 

[Nick Ryder]

Yeah because Reed can literally stretch his mind and is also smart enough to know when to bring in outside help and the kind of outside help he needs.

Never knew that Reed=Eternity thing... although Scientist Supreme? Really now? So what instead of the Eye of Agamoto, he's got the iPod of Steve Jobs?

 

[Guy Gardener]

in the comic book we're talking about, those questions were put forward. Yes Richards (I feel like Doom when I call him that.) is Smarter, but he was classified as an explorer, and Stark (I haven't called him Tony or iron man in years since he kicked off the civil war like Hitler marching into Poland.) was called an engineer, but it is Pym (Now I'm Egghead? What a fricking fall from Grace.) who takes science as an art form to it's hieghts.

That's self delusional aggrandizement bullshit.

Which is why I possibly think that Pym's brain is just jerking itself off with this pomp.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Never knew that Reed=Eternity thing... although Scientist Supreme? Really now? So what instead of the Eye of Agamoto, he's got the iPod of Steve Jobs?

heheheheheheheeheheheheheh!

Why do I think that his Ipod is different to everyone elses?

It's probably the original from the Rosewell crash they're still trying to reverse engineer half decent instead of ass backwards.

 

[Nick Ryder]

I think so too. Although what's kind of funny is... Pym (I am the Eggman!) started out studying bugs... and now is like this uber scientist who can build robots and all kinds of wacky stuff. I mean if anything he should have been the "biologist" in the "explorer", "engineer" thing

 

[Turtletrekker]

Actually, Eternity classified Pym as...

...The Mage. For you, science is about making the impossible possible. You are the one who takes science to the very point of magic-- for no other reason than that you can."

As for the Jocasta thing-- largely I don't get the resistance. I mean, yeah, the fact that Jocasta has Jan's brain patterns is a tad on the creepy side, but the whole human/artificial life form relationship is old hat for the Avengers. I mean, I personally thought the whole Vision/Scarlet Witch thing was a little creepy myself, but it was accepted a lot easier than the Hank/Jocasta thing seems to have been.

And the reaction from Speed on the last page when Hank shows Jocasta some tenderness was puzzling. Hasn't he noticed his own human team-mate, Stature, dating artificial life-form? And if they are, as he and his brother seem to believe, somehow the sons of the Scarlet Witch, wouldn't that same quirk of probability make that same artificial life-form dating their team-mate their father? (Or the former home of their father's personality... Or something...)

Puzzling.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's not the artificial bit that's odd, it's the "metal" bit that is alarming. Vision and others are squish and pleasant to touch with your tongue, lips or penis. Jocasta is built like a suit of medieval armour with joints, hinges, screws and ball-bearings.

If you want to slip her mechanical brain into something sexually interactive that Pym won't accidentally poison himself with looking for her G Spot, maybe it'll look less fetishy like those wise people that stick their johnsons up their car's tail pipes.

Then maybe it's the getting it on with his sons missus, it's not like she and Ultron actually got divorced at any point? And I know she's only the Vison's step mother, but there has to be some tension?

Or it's the you done getting it on with a corpse bride, is he kissing Jacosta or Jan when he endangers her warranty with rust by a good whetting from his juicy pretty end of 18 feet of intestines.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's not the artificial bit that's odd, it's the "metal" bit that is alarming. Vision and others are squish and pleasant to touch with your tongue, lips or penis. Jocasta is built like a suit of medieval armour with joints, hinges, screws and ball-bearings.

Did you read John Byrne's mercifully brief run on West Coast Avengers? I can't recall the specific issue, but after the team tracked down and recoverd the Vision from the government, Pym had his parts all splayed out on a table, and no effort at all was made to make anything (even the penis) look soft or squishy (which brings up other disturbing issues). From that, I always assumed that despite appearance, Vision "felt" as artificial as he looked.

 

[CaptainCanada]

And the reaction from Speed on the last page when Hank shows Jocasta some tenderness was puzzling. Hasn't he noticed his own human team-mate, Stature, dating artificial life-form?

I assumed his problem was the super-flowery way Pym said it (as well as the idea of Hank dating a Jan-robot).

 

[Guy Gardener]

WCA #43. last page.

Right hand side of the splash page.

Three tanks.

Looking like bacta tanks like what Luke was healing up in.

One is full of muscle tissue, and another one is full of fat tissue or lymphatic tissue. Meanwhile lying the middle of the page his "red" skin which seems to have been slit open along the spin and is just lying their casual on a table like an off kilter tablecloth... Which could be foam rubber or something even more foam rubbery than foam rubber.

But yeah, there's plenty of steel and rubber underneath all that synthetic flesh, enough it would seem for Henry Pym to go for a marathon through while trying to save the day during their first adventure when the Vison was ordered by his pappy to destroy the Avengers.

The cover of WCA 44 has an epidermisless Vison having a tantrum, and he seems to be clearly having flesh maintained inside a metal exoskeleton, which again would become an endoskeleton once he puts his second skin on, but his skull is completely metal.

What di it look like when She hulk ripped him in half?

And now that he's integrated with the Ironlad (kang or Immortus so need to hit on Cassy.) armour, goodness knows what sort of ratio that flesh to metal is sitting at?

Are Vision and Jacosta (She spent an issue of Mighty looking like Jan to make us think that Hank was crazy.) approximating flesh as an actuality by manipulating molecules or some other magic tech or with holographic façades where touch doesn't meet up with see?

 

[Captain Craig]

Seriously, I'm half way thought Mighty Avengers 30, and the Universe just ordained him earth's Scientist Supreme.

What?! Scientist Supreme.

Is Hank Pym smarter than Reed Richards?
Is Hank Pym a better scientist than Reed Richards?

I always thought Mr Fantastic was the smartest human in the world.

As I read that opening sentence in the OP I thought this as well.

In the comic book we're talking about, those questions were put forward. Yes Richards (I feel like Doom when I call him that.) is Smarter, but he was classified as an explorer, and Stark (I haven't called him Tony or iron man in years since he kicked off the civil war like Hitler marching into Poland.) was called an engineer, but it is Pym (Now I'm Egghead? What a fricking fall from Grace.) who takes science as an art form to it's hieghts.

That's self delusional aggrandizement bullshit.

Now that is some serious differentiation to arrive at Pym as Scientist Supreme. I'm only reading these new Avengers books in TPB format and with Mighty I'm up to vol.3(issues13-18) so I'll have that story to look forward to now.
With 'New' I'm through vol.9(the S.Invasion).

 

[barnaclelapse]

Is Hank Pym smarter than Reed Richards?

Is Hank Pym a better scientist than Reed Richards?

I always thought Mr Fantastic was the smartest human in the world.


EDIT--These are innocent questions, not looking to stir the pot. I haven't read comics in many, many years, but from what I remember Reed Richards was always the smartest. Is that correct?

I just assumed Reed was much, much smarter than Pym.

That said, this whole storyline sounds just too damn ridiculous to live.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I recall once the world was in danger and the crunch was so impressive that Richards asked Pym for help because Hank was a specialist in the area which was needed to be exploited to save the day, which gave (Skrull, but not that we knew this at the time) Pym quite a big head... Until Mr Fantastic said something like "The only reason I need your help right now is because the earth doesn't have the 2 days I'd need to learn and master everything you know."

Richards brain stretching is something revealed in Ultimate Fantastic, and I have no idea if such claims towards supraintellect holds water in 616.

 

[coolghoul]

It's not the artificial bit that's odd, it's the "metal" bit that is alarming. Vision and others are squish and pleasant to touch with your tongue, lips or penis. Jocasta is built like a suit of medieval armour with joints, hinges, screws and ball-bearings.

If you want to slip her mechanical brain into something sexually interactive that Pym won't accidentally poison himself with looking for her G Spot, maybe it'll look less fetishy like those wise people that stick their johnsons up their car's tail pipes.

Then maybe it's the getting it on with his sons missus, it's not like she and Ultron actually got divorced at any point? And I know she's only the Vison's step mother, but there has to be some tension?

Or it's the you done getting it on with a corpse bride, is he kissing Jacosta or Jan when he endangers her warranty with rust by a good whetting from his juicy pretty end of 18 feet of intestines.

Is there any specific reason why you chose Guy Gardner as your nick?

(No offense intended!)