What do you think about the new sfx for ships going to warp? I love it! The huge amount of engery involved really comes across. Although the loud "BANG" at the end really suprised me...almost fell out of my chair. I was prepared for the usual "psscht"..but not for that...lol
The new "going to warp" effect
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It came as a surprise to me as well, especially since your first taste of it is a small fleet warping in quick succession. I'm not sure what to make of it, but I'm beginning to feel that going to warp doesn't have the same visceral impact it used to have by the point we got to the later Trek series.
I like it. The new effect really captures the vastly different scales sublight and FTL drives operate on.
Loved the effect, just shows you how powerful them warp engines are . !!
Going from memory, since I only saw it once back in May...
I didn't really care for the seemingly Star Wars/Dr Who inspired vortex effect. I prefer an increasing amount of streaking starlight at different speeds. Blurring all that into a bluey white mess completely spoils the journey and travel is reduced to appearing almost instantaneous.
I did like one change though. Something subtle. The sight of the hull (saucer visable ahead) stretching off into the distance... seconds before they go to warp.
I didn't really care for the seemingly Star Wars/Dr Who inspired vortex effect. I prefer an increasing amount of streaking starlight at different speeds. Blurring all that into a bluey white mess completely spoils the journey and travel is reduced to appearing almost instantaneous.
I did like one change though. Something subtle. The sight of the hull (saucer visable ahead) stretching off into the distance... seconds before they go to warp.
I prefer the old TNG effect, it was simplistic yet conveyed the complexities of warp drive.
The warp effect has changed many times (and basically didn't exist in TOS). The new movie warp "going to warp" effect is very well done and really shows the power and speeds involved. The movie "in warp" blur, however, seems disconnected from what is presumably going on outside.
I like the Stargate-style Hyperspace-but-underwater effect. I was always slightly annoyed by the 'streaking stars' which often moved past FAR too quickly in TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT(and moreso in Enterprise when stars moved past the ship at sublight speeds too!).
I'm also glad they did away with the "Warp Poof" when the ship disappears. It never made much sense to me (but works in Stargate as they are leaving real-space for hyperspace, whereas in Trek they just go REALLY fast). It was also never used consistantly. When i was really young and first saw TNG i thought the credits ended with the Enterprise exploding.
Star Trek VI had the worst warp effect - it looked like the Red Arrows when Enterprise was warping to Khitomer.
When the ships jumped away in STXI it was the ear-splitting BOOM I remember. It certainly conveyed power.
What does make a big difference in STXI is the implication (never said outright) that ships are sensor-blind at warp speed.
Also a space battle at warp wouldn't work well with this effect. Nor with sensor-blindness!
I'm also glad they did away with the "Warp Poof" when the ship disappears. It never made much sense to me (but works in Stargate as they are leaving real-space for hyperspace, whereas in Trek they just go REALLY fast). It was also never used consistantly. When i was really young and first saw TNG i thought the credits ended with the Enterprise exploding.
Star Trek VI had the worst warp effect - it looked like the Red Arrows when Enterprise was warping to Khitomer.
When the ships jumped away in STXI it was the ear-splitting BOOM I remember. It certainly conveyed power.
What does make a big difference in STXI is the implication (never said outright) that ships are sensor-blind at warp speed.
Also a space battle at warp wouldn't work well with this effect. Nor with sensor-blindness!
Uhm...the ship partially enters subspace while at warp...
I think the logic for the flash was the implication of a "light barrier" just like theres a sound barrier. And since passing the sound barrier makes a "big boom" it is kinda logical...at least from an artistic point of few...that passing the "light barrier" would produce some kind of light based phenomena.
re: the swirly visuals while at warp: don´t like them that much...although they probably tried to be more realistic with that. I once read that when near the speed of light you would see something similar, and travelling over the speed of light you would see.....nothing...only blackness...but that would make it pretty boring from a tv/movie point of view...right?
It was a bit jarring, but I've grown to like it.
I loved it and also loved the way the ship dropped out of warp. Very cool.
I liked it fine.
I thought it was way too much Star Wars there.
First the stars turn into long streaks, and then the ship zaps away. And before that someone says "Punch it, Chewie!".
First the stars turn into long streaks, and then the ship zaps away. And before that someone says "Punch it, Chewie!".
I didn't see any stars turning into long streaks, and even the stars streaking is not exclusive to Wars, I'm pretty sure a few of the TOS movies had exactly the same thing happen (the stars streaking as opposed to not). Plus the ships have always zapped away, just now they're faster and 'louder' in doing so.
Admittedly, it would be hilarious to see Chewie come out of nowhere and deck Sulu to activate warp first.
EDIT: I just went on YouTube to check, and found this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj178APgdno
Seems the first few TOS movies had a star stretching effect, but that was dropped.
Double EDIT (sheesh, get your post sorted first in future, m'kay -everyone): Found another youtube video, depicting the XI Enterprise going to warp. Seems the star stretching when initiating warp only happens if you're looking from the perspective of the bridge. Can't remember how it's looked in other Trek when seen from this perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlPO1g2e590&NR=1
{QUOTE]Admittedly, it would be hilarious to see Chewie come out of nowhere and deck Sulu to activate warp first. [/QUOTE]
Or rip his arms off and then "RWAAAARR! woof! woof!"
Solo- he doesn't like it when you take his place
[/QUOTE]Or rip his arms off and then "RWAAAARR! woof! woof!"
Solo- he doesn't like it when you take his place
The final scene of Generations?
I thought the Star Wars reference was very in your face obvious. It's not a reference anymore, it's basically a carbon copy of all jump to hyperspace scenes in the original trilogy. "Punch it", followed by an almost exact copy of all the hyperjump shot, followed by the ship just jumping with a loud bang, just like in all the Star Wars movies.
The warp speed scenes in the previous movies, and the TV shows, are totally different from the Star Wars hyperspeed scenes (they are probably inspired by the awesomeness of it, but they were never ever copying the scene shot for shot). But this movie really ripped it off.
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