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Children in Restaurants.

If you're in a fast food restaurant, kids will probably be there and the noise level in general will be loud because of it. I'm OK if kids are being a little rowdy in places like this but when you go to a sit down place where the wait staff brings your food to you, I expect kids to be controlled. That means no excessive crying, screaming, jumping up and down, food fights, running around like the place it's their second home, and in general making a massive mess of things at their table. My parents taught my siblings and I to be behave in a restaurant and that it's not a place to do such things (if we screwed up, we were punished accordingly). Of course it helped that we were better disciplined before we started going out to eat. Parents have a responsibility to watch their kids and control them. If you can't do that, stay home or get fast food. I and everyone else should be able to have a good time at Applebee's and not have to worry about kids running amuck and creating a disturbance of any kind.
 
And they told me, too, when I was a baby/toddler, they would PICK UP after the inevitable mess kids that age make when they are too young to know any better, rather than make the wait staff do that. Now THAT is something that pisses me off about children in restaurants--when parents do not clean up the mess their children make, because frankly, a little kid's mess is above and beyond what the wait staff should have to deal with by themselves.
My wife and I try to pick up after our toddler (and sometimes our older two) when we're done to the best of our ability. Sometimes, however, the mess is such that we can't do much about it. But we do try to leave a bit extra tip, especially in those cases.

On the other hand, I remember somewhere upthread that some waiters get assigned families with kids as "punishment". That definitely comes through in your performance to me as the customer, and it's quite irritating. In those cases, we'll still clean up (since it's not always the waiter doing the cleaning), but that's about all the consideration from me you're getting. Occasionally, I've had to complain to a manager because we're not getting the same service that other tables are, merely because we have kids. The toddler can be a chore sometimes, but the older two know how to behave and not bother anyone else.
 
Why is it that one someone says they find kids irritating or that they don't particularly like them people react as if they just threatened to burn down a church?
 
I love how everyone in this thread was perfectly well-behaved as a child.

I actually was too, at least in public. At least as well-behaved as can be expected. I'm sure I occasionally got upset or something. The most I'd get scolded for was eating too slow. We got into all sorts of trouble at home, though. :lol:
 
Why is it that one someone says they find kids irritating or that they don't particularly like them people react as if they just threatened to burn down a church?


Genetic human nature to protect and nurture our young. It's in our DNA.

People who find kids irritating or don't particularly like them kind of defeat your argument.

No they don't. They just overcome a basic instinct. So you don't think human beings have a natural instinct to take care of their young?
 
Genetic human nature to protect and nurture our young. It's in our DNA.

People who find kids irritating or don't particularly like them kind of defeat your argument.

No they don't. They just overcome a basic instinct. So you don't think human beings have a natural instinct to take care of their young?

I think the rape and murder of our children, rampant child abuse, not to mention the parents who abandon and don't provide any kind of support for their children are strong arguments against such a generalization.
 
People who find kids irritating or don't particularly like them kind of defeat your argument.

No they don't. They just overcome a basic instinct. So you don't think human beings have a natural instinct to take care of their young?

I think the rape and murder of our children, rampant child abuse, not to mention the parents who abandon and don't provide any kind of support for their children are strong arguments against such a generalization.

Yes, brilliant, you've nailed it! The human race has no natural inborn instinct to care for it's young. FUCK EM.
 
No they don't. They just overcome a basic instinct. So you don't think human beings have a natural instinct to take care of their young?

I think the rape and murder of our children, rampant child abuse, not to mention the parents who abandon and don't provide any kind of support for their children are strong arguments against such a generalization.

Yes, brilliant, you've nailed it! The human race has no natural inborn instinct to care for it's young. FUCK EM.

If that's your take on what I said, fine. Be an asshole.
 
I think the rape and murder of our children, rampant child abuse, not to mention the parents who abandon and don't provide any kind of support for their children are strong arguments against such a generalization.

Yes, brilliant, you've nailed it! The human race has no natural inborn instinct to care for it's young. FUCK EM.

If that's your take on what I said, fine. Be an asshole.

Obviously with your witty argument you've just proved me and human nature wrong.
 
I think the rape and murder of our children, rampant child abuse, not to mention the parents who abandon and don't provide any kind of support for their children are strong arguments against such a generalization.

Yes, brilliant, you've nailed it! The human race has no natural inborn instinct to care for it's young. FUCK EM.

If that's your take on what I said, fine. Be an asshole.

Consider this a gentle reminder to keep it on post, not poster.

Thank you.

We now return to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
The instinct to "protect and nurture our young", IMO, doesn't really come out until you actually have kids yourself. Even then, it's not near as strong in men as it is in women. From my own experience, I wouldn't have anything to do with children before my own were born. Even so, I'm still a bit uncomfortable around kids that aren't mine.
 
The instinct to "protect and nurture our young", IMO, doesn't really come out until you actually have kids yourself. Even then, it's not near as strong in men as it is in women. From my own experience, I wouldn't have anything to do with children before my own were born. Even so, I'm still a bit uncomfortable around kids that aren't mine.

I agree with parts of that statement, and I'm uncomfortable around kids, but I still find a desire to protect them and take care of them. I've got two younger cousins that I always get mom-like when I'm around. I do think it's much stronger when it is your own children, or once you at least have your own (which I don't).
 
The instinct to "protect and nurture our young", IMO, doesn't really come out until you actually have kids yourself. Even then, it's not near as strong in men as it is in women. From my own experience, I wouldn't have anything to do with children before my own were born. Even so, I'm still a bit uncomfortable around kids that aren't mine.

I disagree. It all boils down to the person. Also, the statement that it's "in our DNA" is not accurate. Like I've said, not everyone is fit to be a parent. There are numerous cases out there of parents who have abused and neglected their children.
 
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