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Oooh RTD You FIBBER! (Something's Coming...)

Hmm, the slightly disappointing but pretty plausible theory I've heard is that the BBC's Christmas Idents this year will all be DW related. (Last year's were all Wallace & Gromit.)

It would certainly explain RTD's "God knows what it'll do to canon!" comment.
 
Hmm, the slightly disappointing but pretty plausible theory I've heard is that the BBC's Christmas Idents this year will all be DW related. (Last year's were all Wallace & Gromit.)

It would certainly explain RTD's "God knows what it'll do to canon!" comment.

Seems plausible.
 
People assume that canon is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a fan-wank, specials-included viewpoint, it's more like a big mess of maybe-waybe...canony-wanony...stuff.
 
Yeah, canon in Who is a fallacy, for a start theres no consistent continuity and literally anything can happen week to week.

Look at the last surviving dalek from the timewar kept in secracy in 2016, and then the dalek/cyberman invasion in 2007.

Or the golden age of Hariet Jones' premiership.

An event in the Doctor's past isn't set in stone so its futile to try and track it in some kind of 'canon'. He's constantly meeting races that were myth, or dead, and being corrected or proved wrong. Perhaps he was right about them being dead once, just not anymore.
 
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They're going to shoot David Tennant out of a cannon? with a large picture of *insert whoever you despise* as the target?
 
Doc/Rose/Martha/Donna/Jack FFF/MM orgy.

Throws canon out when we find out that, in Jack's case, tape measures DO lie.
 
Did they convince Chris Eccleston to come back for one last time as the 9th Doctor and do a good 9/10 Doctor story? Maybe have Rose in the middle or something. Ok, yeah, so it's not McCoy, or Baker, or whoever the 8th doctor was, but that would really be the only thing that would make me giddy.
 
I can't stand "canon". It's the most depressingly tiresome aspect of Star Trek fandom, and fortunately Doctor Who has been relatively free of it. UNIT dating is about as far as it goes really, because almost everyone knows it doesn't matter.
 
You can't say there's no such thing as canon when the producer of the show admits to it.
 
I can't stand "canon". It's the most depressingly tiresome aspect of Star Trek fandom, and fortunately Doctor Who has been relatively free of it. UNIT dating is about as far as it goes really, because almost everyone knows it doesn't matter.

Doctor Who does have an established canon.... the order of the Doctor's, place names and certain events like the Time War. If any of these were changed, then it would be against canon... however, for all the inconsistencies in stories I look at it as the Doctor Who universe being in flux, timelines changing and being altered etc by events in other episodes....
 
It's going to be a love scene between Jack and a Dalek. The Doctor just brings them a sandwich afterwards. I heard from a reliable source, that the test audiences went mad and killed each other. My source was the only survivor, although he was in a mental hospital and had removed his eyes.
 
I can't stand "canon". It's the most depressingly tiresome aspect of Star Trek fandom, and fortunately Doctor Who has been relatively free of it. UNIT dating is about as far as it goes really, because almost everyone knows it doesn't matter.

Doctor Who does have an established canon.... the order of the Doctor's, place names and certain events like the Time War. If any of these were changed, then it would be against canon... however, for all the inconsistencies in stories I look at it as the Doctor Who universe being in flux, timelines changing and being altered etc by events in other episodes....

Quoted for Truth!
 
I can't stand "canon". It's the most depressingly tiresome aspect of Star Trek fandom, and fortunately Doctor Who has been relatively free of it. UNIT dating is about as far as it goes really, because almost everyone knows it doesn't matter.

Doctor Who does have an established canon.... the order of the Doctor's, place names and certain events like the Time War. If any of these were changed, then it would be against canon... however, for all the inconsistencies in stories I look at it as the Doctor Who universe being in flux, timelines changing and being altered etc by events in other episodes....
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So, when were the UNIT stories set, then? Mawdryn Undead destroyed that view of "canon." Or, what were the non-Thal inhabitants of Skaro called before they became Daleks?

The simple fact is that Dr Who canon is an individual thing, separate subjective entity for every fan, because there was never a point where the creator of the show - or even a governing body like the Beeb - came out and defined canon.

Which is just as well, as the whole nature of a time travel show means stuff *is* going to change, otherwise the Doctor might as well not bother, sit down for a cuppa and let things sort themselves out.

Y'know, like Eccleston's season...
 
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