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is it true or untrue! i like what kirk said do you or it is clap? love dr![]()
Well, especially Kirk asking Spock "Aren't you dead?" after the Kobayashi Maru scenario..^Yeah I noticed that early on in the movie there are a lot of foreshadowing to Spock dying. I only noticed this on a recent play through but they are all very obivious if you pay attention to the dialogue.
Well, especially Kirk asking Spock "Aren't you dead?" after the Kobayashi Maru scenario..^Yeah I noticed that early on in the movie there are a lot of foreshadowing to Spock dying. I only noticed this on a recent play through but they are all very obivious if you pay attention to the dialogue.
Yeah, the way I see it, it was meant to come across as an ironic statement when viewed in the later context of Kirk's discussion with Saavik about the Kobayashi Maru, and his post-funeral talk with David — until Spock's death, Kirk had never truly faced a no-win scenario or death.I always regarded that speech to be just a mocking of Saavik, not meant to be serious. She didn't understand what the Kobayashi Maru scenario was about, she was puzzled by the no-win-scenario, and Kirk kind of made fun of her by giving her "something else to think about" (I think that was how he said it, I dunno exactly).
He didn't know that it was going to haunt him shortly after.
Yeah, that's what I remember reading too. Probably in an old Starlog or something.Wasn't that because there were early spoilers about Spock dying in the movie, hence his 'dying' in the Kobayashi Maru test to throw the audience, complete with that line to reference the spoiler? That way the audience is all 'Haha, you got us there, didn't you?', carry on watching then movie, before getting to 'that' scene and go 'What? You actually killed him?!'![]()
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Pretty sure Nick Meyer says that again in the ST2 DVD extras (at least that's where I came across it).Yeah, that's what I remember reading too. Probably in an old Starlog or something.Wasn't that because there were early spoilers about Spock dying in the movie, hence his 'dying' in the Kobayashi Maru test to throw the audience, complete with that line to reference the spoiler? That way the audience is all 'Haha, you got us there, didn't you?', carry on watching then movie, before getting to 'that' scene and go 'What? You actually killed him?!'![]()
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