Sisko talked about a team in a league that apparently covered several worlds. Pike City Pioneers I think it was.Also, they killed off baseball!That's something you just don't do.
Trek cliches that annoy you
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Sisko talked about a team in a league that apparently covered several worlds. Pike City Pioneers I think it was.Also, they killed off baseball!
Not several worlds, only Cestus III. And that was only started up recently, I think. The Trekverse claims that Major League Baseball stopped around 2042.
That alone would make it impossible for me to live in the Trekverse. I could not cope if there were no baseball. That's one of the few things I find enjoyable or can get excited about.
"Captain, it's some kind of (insert technobabble here)!"
The technobabble is bad enough, but why does it always have to be some kind of technobabble? Be specific! Once you start paying attention to it, you'll notice the characters say the phrase "some kind of" A LOT. The ultimate in copy-and-paste writing.
The technobabble is bad enough, but why does it always have to be some kind of technobabble? Be specific! Once you start paying attention to it, you'll notice the characters say the phrase "some kind of" A LOT. The ultimate in copy-and-paste writing.
I hate the holodeck. I hate how you can do just about everything with a holodeck. It started out okay. But then it got to the point where it became virtually a godlike device that could create everything from complex computer systems to sentient beings. It became a crutch for lazy producers who didn't know what else to do so they'd just create another 'holodeck episode' where the sky was the limit.
Not all chiches -- some just rants (need a rant thread)- Manual and auto eject of TNG warp core never worked, override non-functional.
- Red shirts died less when they switched to gold
- Only ship in the quad, when there should be hundreds or thousands.
- Ships fight battles at two miles of seperation.
- The holodeck door won't open -- replace it with a shower curtain.
- The holodeck at all, they're in space, exploring worlds.
- If everyone in the 23rd century is actually a white human, then explain it.
- The control buttons on Kirk's ship are glowing gummy bears.
- When the communicators fail, they don't just point a camera at the surface.
- In the last season of Voyage, Janeway didn't know a crewmans name.
Tom Paris has old rock, Riker's got jazz, Vic does swing. You'd think they could invent a new style in a passing referance. Classical music IS better than Picard sitting quietly in his quarters listening to Debbie Gibson singing "Shake your love"
Anybody else notice that the name Debbie Gibson was the big clue in the first episode of "flash forward"?
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It was. Unfortunately it ended a decade ago and a lot of the symptoms came back in other shows...
The ship being hit with phasers and photon torpedoes for a good five minutes before firing back, and when they do they "target their weapons systems" which instantly disables the alien ship. Doesn't anyone else in the friggin galaxy know how to target a weapon system?
Everybody in Voyager seemingly being able to go back in time and prevent a disaster from happening.
Aliens who are malevolent jerks for absolutely no reason.
The fact that there are still incurable diseases in the Federation when the Enterprise doctor is usually able to cure a previously unknown disease in about a day or two.
Wasn't the holodeck supposed to be a small room? So how is it people can walk for miles in there and not reach the end of it?
Everybody in Voyager seemingly being able to go back in time and prevent a disaster from happening.
Aliens who are malevolent jerks for absolutely no reason.
The fact that there are still incurable diseases in the Federation when the Enterprise doctor is usually able to cure a previously unknown disease in about a day or two.
Wasn't the holodeck supposed to be a small room? So how is it people can walk for miles in there and not reach the end of it?
Treadmill effect.
The only one that really bothers me is when they take a line that nobody in real life would ever say and make it sound even worse by sticking a random alien name in there to make it sound more spacey.
"I couldn't hit the broad side of a Plygorian mammoth!"
"I don't give a Circassian fig what's tactically correct!"
See also descriptions of alien creatures that work along similar lines, e.g a Retakassian snot dragon...
"I couldn't hit the broad side of a Plygorian mammoth!"
"I don't give a Circassian fig what's tactically correct!"
See also descriptions of alien creatures that work along similar lines, e.g a Retakassian snot dragon...
Redshirts. It never was good writing to begin with, and the cult really annoys me.
The character's love for mid-20th century stuff. Not believable, and pretty nerdy actually. It was okay for Picard, it got annoying with every consecutive character who also happened to know everything about the 20th century. They live in the 24th century, in a galaxy full of diverse alien cultures, and all of them play 60s detective stories, listen to 60s Las Vegas singers, watch black and white television, love 1930s cars? What the hell?
The character's love for mid-20th century stuff. Not believable, and pretty nerdy actually. It was okay for Picard, it got annoying with every consecutive character who also happened to know everything about the 20th century. They live in the 24th century, in a galaxy full of diverse alien cultures, and all of them play 60s detective stories, listen to 60s Las Vegas singers, watch black and white television, love 1930s cars? What the hell?
WWIII in the mid 90's sucked the air out of the room.
Hm, let me see....
Characters that are either together or not, depending on who else is traveling on board.
NO RUNNING! Except that one kid Chekov.
I loved this one:
Hey, here's an old cave. Look at all these humanoid bones around the entrance.
Well some cultures save everything. Ok, you stand here and collect 'em while I go somewhere else.
Huh? Hell with that noise, YOU do it!
Um, failure to use shuttle transporters when transporters were down. Or shuttle power systems for that matter.
The universal translator operating on a principle that it can extrapolate whole languages based on a few utterances; with no prior cultural or idiomatic context - never minding that whole worlds spoke in a single idiom and instantly understood concepts like "give me a break" or even space as property.
Planets, suns, asteroids, moons, they are all the size of billiard balls. Drives me crazy. No scale!
Hm, let me see....
Characters that are either together or not, depending on who else is traveling on board.
NO RUNNING! Except that one kid Chekov.
I loved this one:
Hey, here's an old cave. Look at all these humanoid bones around the entrance.
Well some cultures save everything. Ok, you stand here and collect 'em while I go somewhere else.
Huh? Hell with that noise, YOU do it!
Um, failure to use shuttle transporters when transporters were down. Or shuttle power systems for that matter.
The universal translator operating on a principle that it can extrapolate whole languages based on a few utterances; with no prior cultural or idiomatic context - never minding that whole worlds spoke in a single idiom and instantly understood concepts like "give me a break" or even space as property.
Planets, suns, asteroids, moons, they are all the size of billiard balls. Drives me crazy. No scale!
At least they retconned that one quite handily, to the 2050's (or, if you believe IAMD, a war lasting from 2029 till 2053!).
Well...I've mentioned it in other threads, but I actually have picked up on somewhat of a pattern in this regard as to what is and is not curable.
Pathogens, injuries, poisons, and the like DO seem to be cured very easily. Things that are neurological in origin seem to be a LOT tougher to treat (Yarim Fel, Irumodic, Bendii syndromes), and are often your incurable diseases.
(Though I will state I believe, based on the symptoms, that Yarim Fel is an autoimmune disorder. However, death comes from central nervous system failure.)
Back in the '80s the US Navy supposedly could put a cruise missile into the bridge of a soviet warship from 200 miles away, during WWII navy flyers would drop bombs down the smoke stacks of warships so as that the bomb would explode in the engine rooms.
TNG torpedo launchers are buried inside the neck, the only thing on the exterior of the ship is the end of a tube. Same with the phaser strips, the phaser mechanism is down deep inside a trench. Most enemy ships would seem to be like Kirk's Enterprise, their weapons near the hull.
a distinct lack of alien or even non-Anglo-American starship names.
virtually every human being from Earth despite all those blasted colonies.
virtually every human being from Earth despite all those blasted colonies.
Alien/Villain/enemy of the week, though totally unfamiliar with Starfleet systems, uses a nearby light switch to gain control of the ship's computer in three point five seconds.
In a similar vein:
Alien/villain/enemy of the week is able to completely reprogram a computer to do something totally improbably just by rearranging a half dozen isolinear chips.
In a similar vein:
Alien/villain/enemy of the week is able to completely reprogram a computer to do something totally improbably just by rearranging a half dozen isolinear chips.
It was once implied that Riker used the holodeck to work off some sexual frustration. In The Perfect Mate after having a run-in with Kamala, Riker simply says "I'll be in the holodeck."
Also, it was often implied that Quark's holosuites doubled as a holographic brothel.
Not a Trek cliche, but a TNG cliche -- torpedoes rarely worked. Sure, they fired. Of course they went boom. But more often than not, torpedoes would have no effect on the mysterious enemy.
Of course, on the flip side, one of the few times in which the torpedoes *did* work, they blew a star up. So maybe it was a good idea for them not to work after all
Of course, on the flip side, one of the few times in which the torpedoes *did* work, they blew a star up. So maybe it was a good idea for them not to work after all
Something I noticed during the episode it happen in, there was a star ship named "Crazy Horse", give the politically correct nature of star fleet and the federation in general, shouldn't the ship have been named ...
Tȟašúŋke Witkó .... (his horse is crazy).
If you look at the real names of big nasty Japanese warships from WWII, their names translated out
to "summer blossum" or "trickling stream"
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