Movie Rank Pins(Commodore)

[James Wright]

Can anybody tell me if both rank pins that represented the rank of Commodore in the Star Trek Movies(2 thru 7) were the same size since the shoulder strap rank pin is the smallest of all the commissioned ranks?
Thanks!

James

 

[Christopher]

I don't recall there being any commodores in the movies. Ex Astris Scientia has this graphic showing one commodore rank pin among the set, but I'm not sure how authoritative it is:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/stmagazine/twok-uniforms1.jpg

Presumably all the depicted pins are to scale with one another.

 

[Kirby]

^^^ Getting a 403 error.

 

[Unicron]

There were at least one or two commodores visible with the officer assembly in TVH, with the rounded "half admiral" pin. The captain variant pin with extra arrows AFAIK was never used, and I've only seen one offscreen representation of it for a commodore in one of the comics. I have seen it suggested as the movie era insignia for a fleet captain though.

 

[James Wright]

I also got a 403 error!
What are the lengths for the other sets of rank pins?

James

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

This site has all the rank pins listed, including commodore (based on Fletcher's notes):

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/2278-2350/ranks.htm

A comparison of the various other "speculated" rank schemes with Fletcher's own scheme:

http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/2278-2350/ranks_comparison.htm

 

[Christopher]

^^^ Getting a 403 error.

Sorry. Copy the link address and paste it in the address bar.

 

[James Wright]

Are there any drawimgs by the designer of the rank pins somewhere on the internet?

James

 

[sbk1234]

There were at least one or two commodores visible with the officer assembly in TVH, with the rounded "half admiral" pin. The captain variant pin with extra arrows AFAIK was never used, and I've only seen one offscreen representation of it for a commodore in one of the comics. I have seen it suggested as the movie era insignia for a fleet captain though.

That's cool. I never thought they ever showed a commodore on Trek since TOS. I always liked the rank, and I'm glad in some small way it wasn't completely shelved.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Are there any drawimgs by the designer of the rank pins somewhere on the internet?

James

The sketches from Robert Fletcher's TWOK uniform guide used to be on the Spike uniform site.

 

[Data Holmes]

Are there any drawimgs by the designer of the rank pins somewhere on the internet?

James

The sketches from Robert Fletcher's TWOK uniform guide used to be on the Spike uniform site.

Scans of the Fletcher sketches for the rank insignia can be seen on this website, just scroll down: http://www.btinternet.com/~ady1971/ranks.html

 

[James Wright]

Thanks Data Holmes!

James

 

[James Wright]

Does anybody know if Robert Fletcher had any dimensions for the rank pins as he designed them?
Thanks,

James

 

[nx1701g]

I remember in about 1996 in the Star Trek magazines you could order rank pins from a distributor. One of them was a movie era commodore pin and it looked like the Captain's pin, but the center was solid instead of having three bars.

 

[Data Holmes]

I remember in about 1996 in the Star Trek magazines you could order rank pins from a distributor. One of them was a movie era commodore pin and it looked like the Captain's pin, but the center was solid instead of having three bars.

Yes, that company made many pins which were not accurate, or based off of the ones used on screen. I believe they were called Hollywood pins or something like that.