The vibe I got from the preview was that Forman and House may have swapped roles to some extent. He's been worried before about turning into House and he seemed to be kind of a hard-ass in a couple of the clips. It also looks like he's back in charge of the team. If true, this role reversal could be pretty interesting.
House, MD. 6x01-02: "Broken" - Discussion and Spoilers
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Perhaps house never comes back as head of the team and only serves as a "consultant" for the team...
^Guh, I hope not. I hate Foreman, and not in the "love to hate" way. He's dull, unsympathetic, uninteresting, and not well acted. I'd prefer to see less of him, not more.
Who said we'd see more? The show is called house. Perhaps we will see more of house, outside of work, off the drugs, and only hanging around the hospital to serve as a consultant when needed for the team, bug Wilson, and pull clinic duty.
^It would be nice to see House in other situations, but I'd still hate to see Foreman in charge of the team perminantly. Were he in charge, I think it is more likely that we'd see more of him.
And generally when they do change, that's when they die.
I'm not sure what to think about this episode honestly. I voted "good" because I did enjoy it overall, but it was quite out of character with the series as a whole. I realize they are trying to innovate and not do the same things with the House character and to me this is quite ballsy, but if you change the character don't you risk alienating the fans? I'm also not sure how to feel about where it may go from here- either he returns to his old misanthropic self, which is kind of sad and invalidates the arc, or he maintains some kind of emotional stability and begins to take responsibility for his own actions, which sounds boring. A responsible House that can relate to people? I don't know if I like it. 
TV shows need to change to keep people interested. They need to stay fresh or else they'll end up like Star Trek.
Good post Litmus Dragon, you've echoed my thoughts but in a much more eloquent manner.
You see, I come to this discussion maybe having a little different perspective of this show than most of you. I just started watching House last season, about mid-way through and it's was his incredible character as portrayed by Laurie AND the medical mysteries that totally hooked me on the show after just a couple of episodes. I've been busy catching up on the back story by watching DVDs and I can't get enough.
On the one hand, yeah I would like to see House evolve some day and get over his "miserableness" but IMHO that's the payoff, that should be the finale (which why I suggested this season premier would have worked very well as a series finale.) Don't change what made this show such a big hit. While I enjoyed this episode, I would soon tire of that format, and had that been the "couple of episodes" I saw for the first time, I'm sure I would have never gone back.
The hospital, the interactions with his team, Wilson, and Cuddy, and the mystery of the week, and of course House himself, that's where it's at for this show. I pray they don't stray too far away from that.
You see, I come to this discussion maybe having a little different perspective of this show than most of you. I just started watching House last season, about mid-way through and it's was his incredible character as portrayed by Laurie AND the medical mysteries that totally hooked me on the show after just a couple of episodes. I've been busy catching up on the back story by watching DVDs and I can't get enough.
On the one hand, yeah I would like to see House evolve some day and get over his "miserableness" but IMHO that's the payoff, that should be the finale (which why I suggested this season premier would have worked very well as a series finale.) Don't change what made this show such a big hit. While I enjoyed this episode, I would soon tire of that format, and had that been the "couple of episodes" I saw for the first time, I'm sure I would have never gone back.
The hospital, the interactions with his team, Wilson, and Cuddy, and the mystery of the week, and of course House himself, that's where it's at for this show. I pray they don't stray too far away from that.
All I know is that ALL shows go off the air eventually no matter what (well unless you're 60 minutes). But when they start changing the basic premise of the show, that hastens the show's death. Minor changes, cast departures, etc, won't kill a show, but when a very popular show stops being the show that became so popular in the first place, it won't be around much longer.
(BTW has 60 minutes evolved?)
As I've said, I've been watching through S1 this week on DVD and it's really amazing how much House as a character, and a show, has changed in six seasons.
If all this experience did is revert House back to something closer to his S1 self then I say it was worth it. S1 house is abrasive, brilliant, and misanthropic, but he's not the "cartoon character" he would become in the later seasons going as far as to lighting bodies in the morgue on fire and playing "Survivor" with his choice of new fellows.
I really do want to get back to the medical-mysteries though as they were always interesting, mostly with House's diagnostic process, and I'd like to see more clinic patients.
I suspect that once House's licence is back in check he'll be back in-charge of his team at PPTH, again because he's a world-famous diagnostician who brings people and money to the hospital. Forman? Not so much in that area.
As I've also said this show is pretty damn formulaic despite the possible changes that may be made to House's character I suspect we'll be back to the status quo before too long.
And I want it that way, House's character pulled me into the show and I don't want to see him changed too greatly and what interests me most about him is his diagnostic process/way of practicing medicine.
Episodes like this one are good for their drama-sake along the same line that made "Three Stories", "One Day, One Room" and the Season-Two Moriarty cliff-hanger interesting, great, episodes. But the show still needs a "premise" to run on and it can't just be House being miserable/recovering and the "premise" of this show from the begining has been Medical Mysteries. A CSI for medicine, of sorts.
I'm on the train of feeling we do not need any major changes to this show's formula or format, though I will agree to maybe needing stronger Fellows/Doclings/Young Guns/Cottages as Taub doesn't interest me and while Thirteen is stunning she doesn't interest me as much as Cameron did (and the focus on her and her dealing with Hutchingtons was a bit much last season). Forman I could go either way on, he's almost more arrogant than House is without the advantage of charisma and charm.
As House told him once regarding why there was a patient complaint against him, "What'd you do [insult her]? Believe me, you're years away before you have mad-skilz like that."
But I reccomend anyone who has access to any Season One episode either on DVD, TV OnDemand, or in syndication to watch almost any one of them and notice how much the show and House as a character has changed since then.
The first season had good drama, passion, and realism to it over time the show has "evolved" to something more "cartoon like" where House is less miserable jerk and more caricature of a miserable, eccentric, jerk. It's really interesting how the show made that change.
If all this experience did is revert House back to something closer to his S1 self then I say it was worth it. S1 house is abrasive, brilliant, and misanthropic, but he's not the "cartoon character" he would become in the later seasons going as far as to lighting bodies in the morgue on fire and playing "Survivor" with his choice of new fellows.
I really do want to get back to the medical-mysteries though as they were always interesting, mostly with House's diagnostic process, and I'd like to see more clinic patients.
I suspect that once House's licence is back in check he'll be back in-charge of his team at PPTH, again because he's a world-famous diagnostician who brings people and money to the hospital. Forman? Not so much in that area.
As I've also said this show is pretty damn formulaic despite the possible changes that may be made to House's character I suspect we'll be back to the status quo before too long.
And I want it that way, House's character pulled me into the show and I don't want to see him changed too greatly and what interests me most about him is his diagnostic process/way of practicing medicine.
Episodes like this one are good for their drama-sake along the same line that made "Three Stories", "One Day, One Room" and the Season-Two Moriarty cliff-hanger interesting, great, episodes. But the show still needs a "premise" to run on and it can't just be House being miserable/recovering and the "premise" of this show from the begining has been Medical Mysteries. A CSI for medicine, of sorts.
I'm on the train of feeling we do not need any major changes to this show's formula or format, though I will agree to maybe needing stronger Fellows/Doclings/Young Guns/Cottages as Taub doesn't interest me and while Thirteen is stunning she doesn't interest me as much as Cameron did (and the focus on her and her dealing with Hutchingtons was a bit much last season). Forman I could go either way on, he's almost more arrogant than House is without the advantage of charisma and charm.
As House told him once regarding why there was a patient complaint against him, "What'd you do [insult her]? Believe me, you're years away before you have mad-skilz like that."
But I reccomend anyone who has access to any Season One episode either on DVD, TV OnDemand, or in syndication to watch almost any one of them and notice how much the show and House as a character has changed since then.
The first season had good drama, passion, and realism to it over time the show has "evolved" to something more "cartoon like" where House is less miserable jerk and more caricature of a miserable, eccentric, jerk. It's really interesting how the show made that change.
You've inspired me to drag out my season 1 DVDs Trekker. I've been watching marathon sessions of seasons 1-4 lately and I haven't really noticed this change, but now I'm intrigued to take another look. What you describe is pretty common in shows, it seems like over time, every stand-out character like House tends to evolve towards over-the-top.
The one episode I'd highly reccomend taking a look at to see how much House (both the character and possibly the show) have changed is "Babies and Bathwater" late in the first season. (Disc-3 Side A).