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TV Ratings (Monday 21st September)

Jax

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The season returns and on a personal note welcome back TBBT & House (House was simply amazing last night).

-Total Viewers:
Fox: 16.50 million, ABC: 14.83, CBS: 12.01, NBC: 5.90, CW: 2.28

-Adults 18-49:
Fox: 6.5 rating/16 share, CBS: 4.0/10, ABC: 3.5/9, NBC: 2.4/6, CW: 1.1/3

FOX

House (2 hour season debut) - 16.50 million & 6.5/16


ABC

Dancing With the Stars (2 hour season debut) - 17.53 million & 4.1/10

Castle (season debut) - 9.43 million & 2.3/6


CBS

How I Met Your Mother (season debut) - 9.21 million & 3.5/9

Accidentally on Purpose (series debut) - 8.99 million & 3.2/8

Two and a Half Men (season debut) - 13.59 million & 4.4/10

The Big Bang Theory (season debut) - 12.83 million & 4.6/10

CSI: Miami (season debut) - 13.73 million & 4.3/12


NBC

Heroes (2 hour season debut) - 6.02 million & 2.8/7

The Jay Leno Show (series low) - 5.67 million & 1.8/5


CW

One Tree Hill - 2.48 million & 1.2/3

Gossip Girl - 2.09 million & 1.1/3


The Round-Up to follow...;) good to be back
 
ok so Jay Leno is not close to ofifcally being a failure, if that is the Monday rating, god only know what the Friday one will be
 
Who's idea was it to put him on five nights a week in primetime? Any show would wear out its welcome. What was the motivation behind this? Saving money? How can they save money if they go broke? Network television is dying. It'll be all reality all the time some day. Scripted shows on network will be a memory.
 
House did fantastic, CBS shows all look good, and Castle put up decent numbers. Not bad so far for the shows I care about...

Heroes doesn't look so hot, and if that's the opening number, not a good sign...
 
Not a good sign for NBC. Between Heroes and Jay Leno, the network's gonna go broke. No wonder it renewed L&O: SVU for its 157th season.
 
Who's idea was it to put him on five nights a week in primetime? Any show would wear out its welcome. What was the motivation behind this? Saving money? How can they save money if they go broke? Network television is dying. It'll be all reality all the time some day. Scripted shows on network will be a memory.


Cheap ass NBC.
Leno wanted a 5 day a week show and didn't care what network he would need to do that with.

Plus the lead in was heroes, so that's horrible to begin with. Then even if the show gets 3-4 million viewers the show is cheap and would still be doing better than most shit NBC has.

I also just realized that all the shows I watch right now are on Fox, House, SYTYCD?, Glee, Bones, and Fringe. What a scary place TV has come to.
 
Jay Leno's show was always going to have a bad night with Heroes as lead in...the show needs a good lead in.
 
Looks like there's a good chance this could be Heroes' final season... Here's hoping they can defy the odds and actually make it a good one.
 
Accidentally on Purpose will have a huge dropoff next week if my psychic powers are in working order. Completely unfunny.
 
Final ratings for Monday according to Travis Yanan at pifeedback.com


Dancing With the Stars (121 minutes)
- 17.794 million viewers
- 11.3/17 HH
- 4.1/10 A18-49

Castle (59 minutes)
- 9.265 million viewers
- 6.1/10 HH
- 2.3/6 A18-49

How I Met Your Mother
- 9.085 million viewers
- 5.5/8 HH
- 3.6/10 A18-49

Accidentally on Purpose
- 8.912 million viewers
- 5.6/8 HH
- 3.3/8 A18-49


Two and a Half Men
- 13.629 million viewers
- 8.5/12 HH
- 4.5/10 A18-49 (interestingly, the same demo share as HIMYM)

The Big Bang Theory
- 12.956 million viewers
- 7.9/11 HH
- 4.7/11 A18-49

CSI: Miami
- 14.195 million viewers
- 9.0/15 HH
- 4.3/11 A18-49

Heroes (121 minutes)
- 6.105 million viewers
- 3.7/5 HH
- 2.8/7 A18-49

The Jay Leno Show (59 minutes)
- 5.812 million viewers
- 3.9/6 HH
- 1.8/5 A18-49

House (120 minutes)
- 17.133 million viewers
- 9.8/15 HH
- 6.7/18 A18-49

One Tree Hill
- 2.293 million viewers
- 1.5/2 HH
- 1.1/3 A18-49
- 1.6/4 A18-34
- 2.3/6 W18-34

Gossip Girl
- 1.966 million viewers
- 1.4/2 HH
- 1.0/2 A18-49
- 1.6/4 A18-34
- 2.4/6 W18-34


That's a huge dropoff for Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill from fast nationals. Can the network afford to be so happy about the female 18-34 demo when its viewing audience as a whole is growing ever more miniscule? Less than 2 million for the highly advertised (at cost) Gossip Girl that received budget for 2 additional eppies last season?

House went up half a million viewers from fast nationals. FOX must be dancing a jig over that. Heroes gained a teensy bit.
 
Winners...
House, DWTS, Two and a Half Men, Big Bang Theory and CSI: Miami

Honorable Mention...
How I Met Your Mother and Accidentally on Purpose

Decent...

Losers...
Heroes, The Jay Leno Show, One Tree Hill and Gossip Girl


Round-Up...
House returns big for FOX and with Big Bang out of the 8-9 slot it should hold closer to these numbers than the dip we saw last year in the 12 million range.

ABC's Dancing with the Stars shows no signs of slowing down despite a drop from last years season debut. Castle's rentention may be average but lets face it ABC's struggles with 10pm shows and I feel Castle is worthy of staying around pulling in over 9 million.

CBS made a very smart move putting TBBT with Two & Half Men who both should see rises next week with House back to 1 hour. How I Met Your Mother is going nowhere until the producers say so and only time will tell with Accidentally on Purpose...(Why did CBS not just make RoE a full 22 episodes show instead).

NBC had a piss poor start and HEROES is now 100% to be cancelled. Jay Leno show is heavily dependant on the lead in or maybe its just worn off already.

CW = Why bother still.
 
Yeah, the blooms is now completely off the rose for Heroes. Oh well. Quinto will have more time to devote to Spock then...
 
I wouldn't write Heroes off just yet. Considering that it does very well in all the non-traditional-Nielsens-type viewing, just looking at same-day Nielsens does not tell you the whole story. And NBC would be foolish not to realize it can serve as the guinea pig for figuring out the future of the TV biz because Heroes is the future.

Executive confab about the future of TV.

Discussing the difficulties of measuring success and monetizing shows in the digital age, he pointed to "Heroes," which might get disappointing TV ratings but garners more downloads and views on Hulu than other shows. "We must be able to measure and monetize this," he said.
He's referring to the new ad-measuring consortium whose job it is to find out exactly what shows like Heroes are really worth to their studios and their networks. This is a problem everyone faces increasingly in the future, for all shows that appear to a young-skewing audience. The solution is not to hang onto financial models for shows that appeal to old folks. That obviously has no future. Either networks figure out how to solve the Heroes problem or they have no future, either. Cancelling Heroes won't solve the problem it represents.

Heroes is the most pirated show on the planet. The studio making it could stuff it full of more product placements (like they're shy about doing that) and charge Guitar Hero, Nissan and Sprint for all the viewing. That's how you monetize piracy. ;)

If I were a TV honcho, I would be sick to my stomach at the notion of cancelling the most pirated show on the planet. That is an admission that I cannot figure out how the fuck to do my job. I've been handed a product that people want to consume, and it's my job to make money out of that. Plenty of businesspeople have to figure out how to make money out of products nobody wants! Heroes is easy - you have an audience, now squeeze some sheckles out of em!

Also the massive piracy suggests strong international ratings - something we never get any sources on (unless someone knows a good website?) There's another revenue stream that ratings websites never taps into.
 
TV By the Numbers can sometimes be a useful site concerning numerical data other than the US Nielsens.

Here's an article citing that Heroes is the second highest selling sci-fi DVD in the world. Heroes isn't the focus of the article (Dawn Ostroff not promoting SPN in light of its 3rd place world showing is) but it might make Heroes fans feel a little better. It's the comments page. Scroll up to read the article.
Dawn Ostroff is an idiot
 
Who's idea was it to put him on five nights a week in primetime? Any show would wear out its welcome. What was the motivation behind this? Saving money? How can they save money if they go broke? Network television is dying. It'll be all reality all the time some day. Scripted shows on network will be a memory.
The working theory is that THE JAY LENO SHOW will be more profitable than 5 scripted shows at 10 pm, even if it is in last place every night.

I don't like it because it undercuts Conan O'Brien, who is already getting beat by Letterman every night.

I'd like to know how badly NBC must fail before key executives (like Jeff Zucker) are fired. Do the overlords at GE really think he's doing a bang-up job?
 
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