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Singly most hated & despised ep of the whole 79

Up to this point, I'd think you'd been pumped full of cordrazine.

You're more forgiving than I am.

Honestly, with the exception of my three least faves, all of those eps still feel like Trek. They may have a bad story or bad execution, but I can still enjoy them or pieces of them.

The bottom three are like lousy fan fic.

:eek: Am I to understand that you see some value in "And the Children Shall Lead?" :vulcan:

If so, please do share
 
Up to this point, I'd think you'd been pumped full of cordrazine.

You're more forgiving than I am.

Honestly, with the exception of my three least faves, all of those eps still feel like Trek. They may have a bad story or bad execution, but I can still enjoy them or pieces of them.

The bottom three are like lousy fan fic.

:eek: Am I to understand that you see some value in "And the Children Shall Lead?" :vulcan:

If so, please do share

I'd have to see it to recall. It certainly wasn't good. But I didn't utterly loathe it, you know?

Maybe it was the ice cream floppy disks.
 
My winner, therefore, logically arrived at, is "The Way to Eden". And it wins, ultimately, for one reason...I HATE HIPPIES!!
Hate is illogical, unless you meant it as a little joke.


Extremely little if so, Teach.;)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Even if Way to Eden was the absolute worst episode, which it isn't, Deborah Downey raises the grade by being the loveliest Trek guest star ever.

Even beating Helen Noel. I find that hard to believe.
 
Even in the "most hated & despised" episodes, I think there are little things that make the episodes important to the Star Trek story.

"Spock's Brain" - rear-projection viewscreen
"And The Children Shall Lead" - UFP Flag/Penant
"The Alternative Factor" - dilithium crystals, port side of Enterprise
"The Way to Eden" - good episode for Chekov
"Catspaw" - tiny Enterprise
"Plato's Stepchildren" - err...umm...I can't think of anything. Oh wait, Michael Dunn is cool.
 
"Plato's Stepchildren" - err...umm...I can't think of anything. Oh wait, Michael Dunn is cool.
And Barbara Babcock is hot! :drool:
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Also, Roddenberry's vision of the future is perfectly encapsulated within Kirk's speech to Alexander about the fact that he would be accepted in the Federation.

"Where I come from, size shape or color makes no difference."
-Kirk to Alexander

Every episode has something going for it! :techman:
 
Here's a good way to approach this question.

Suppose you're introducing a friend to TOS; they've never seen a single episode. Which ones would you avoid at all costs? The top (or bottom) two are: "And The Children Shall Lead" and "Plato's Stepchildren". They are both just plain embarrassing and there's little point in watching either of them.

Look, even the really bad episodes (like "The Alternative Factor") have some redeeming qualities...like an interesting guest star, some unusual sets, a different alien ship, or a new special effect. "The Alternative Factor" and "Spock's Brain" had all of these. While I appreciate the acting ability of Michael Dunn, he is the only thing good about "Plato's Stepchildren".

"And The Children Shall Lead" has the WORST guest cast of any Trek episode! A bunch of bratty kids (worse than "Miri"!) and an annoying attorney with bad skin. Yechh.
I never understood why Melvin Belli took part in this. The man was hugely influential in the field of tort practice. He was obviously highly intelligent, and the new techniques he brought to the courtroom even indicate a fine sense of showmanship.

So what the hell happened to make him do that episode?

My least favorite is still "Friday's Child," though. My God, at least "The Children Shall Lead" wasn't that boring.

A good rule: any episode with "child" in the title probably sucks.
 
Parmen, listen to me. I could have had your power, but I didn't want it. I could have had your place right now, but the sight of you and your academicians sickens me. Despite your brains, you're the most contemptible things that ever lived in this universe.
 
"Plato's Stepchildren" for me. Tough to even slightly enjoy that one, what with your heroes being degraded and tortured at the planet of the toga party people. There's a good idea for an episode there, driving each character to absolute limit of what they can withstand psychologically... I just don't expect that to include a song and dance routine, that's all. 50 minutes never seemed to last so long and that's not a good thing in this instance.
 
"Spock's Brain" - hot alien chicks in vinyl miniskirts who are described as the givers of "pain AND delight".
"And The Children Shall Lead" - Not one, not two, but THREE future Brady Bunch guest stars.
"The Alternative Factor" - Lazurus's way-cool stingray spaceship.
"The Way to Eden" - What's NOT to like? You stiff Herberts just don't reach. TWTE is now, it's real now.
"Catspaw" - Sylvia demonstrating to Kirk that she has the ability to become any woman he desires, and Kirk totally turning her down stone cold. Plus, DeSalle in command, possibly the only non-regular to ever hold the post. And he does a kick-ass job as captain, too.
"Plato's Stepchildren" - For years, Trekkies pointed to Kirk and Uhura's kiss as the first ever interracial kiss in network television history. That's since been refuted, but "Plato's Stepchildren" can still lay claim to the title of first ever interracial BDSM scene in network television history.
 
"The Way to Eden" - good episode for Chekov

Count me among those who enjoyed this episode thoroughly. Sure, the cheese factor is high, but it's space hippies! And Spock relates with them! Hey, there's a certain fun factor in that fact alone! :bolian:
 
"Plato's Stepchildren" - For years, Trekkies pointed to Kirk and Uhura's kiss as the first ever interracial kiss in network television history. That's since been refuted, but "Plato's Stepchildren" can still lay claim to the title of first ever interracial BDSM scene in network television history.

Care to enlighten us as to what was the first interracial kiss on network television if this wasn't it?
 
"Plato's Stepchildren" - For years, Trekkies pointed to Kirk and Uhura's kiss as the first ever interracial kiss in network television history. That's since been refuted, but "Plato's Stepchildren" can still lay claim to the title of first ever interracial BDSM scene in network television history.
People like to try to discredit that kiss and claim that since the actors weren't REALLY kissing on set and were only pretending to kiss, that it doesn't count as the first interracial kiss on television. This is utter nonsense; it doesn't matter whether the actors were pretending or not - that's WHAT HAPPENS IN A TV SHOW. The point is what is being represented on screen, whether the actors are actually doing it or not. In which case, the kiss in "Plato's Stepchildren" truly IS the first interracial kiss in film and TV history.

And Captain April makes a good point; if it's not the first interracial kiss on TV, then what is?
 
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