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Publicity Poster for Our Next Episode

^ It's a mental hospital in the 1950's.

By the 1950s, straitjackets were confined to escape artist shows, Hollywood movies, and sexual deviants. They had not been used in mental hospitals in decades. It makes no more sense to show a straitjacket in a mental hospital in the 1950s than a stagecoach outside that hospital.

Well, that's interesting, and dead wrong on every count. Straitjackets are still in medical institutional use, TODAY, in 2009. Don't take my word for it... here's an article from the NYT from just last month: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/01/n...ternative-to-straitjacket.html?pagewanted=all In it we learn that only a quarter of the states still use straitjackets. Still, that's a bit more than the zero you seem to believe. My guess is that you in one of the states where they're already banned. Feel free to enjoy the story now that this bit of misinformation is driven from your head.

Just to make sure we keep our facts straight, that New York Times article is not from last month; it dates from the summer of 1994--about a week after the New York Times article that I posted a link to. (It appears there was a bunch of information coming out as New York State proposed their ban on straitjackets fifteen years ago.) I think your article is a bit more informative than mine: the information that, as of 1994 about a quarter of the states still routinely used straitjackets should put to rest the notion that use of straitjackets in mental health facilities died out back in the Victorian era.

So I continue to maintain that the use of a straitjacket in our "Mind-Sifter" story that takes place in 1953 is not, in fact, anachronistic.
 
I remember reading this story when I was a kid. This will be a real test for James Cawley, and I hope he can pull of the deranged Jimmy.
 
While it's great that you've got pictures for this upcoming episode, whatever happened to Blood and Fire part 2? The first part came out nearly a year ago, and there's no sign part 2 is ever coming out.

I'm not sure what to think about this series. With only three episodes out, they had to go back and re-edit the pilot, then do a special edition of the second, the fourth is released and they retitle the dang thing as Phase 2, and delay for a long long long time.

The last I heard, episode 9 had already wrapped, so episodes 5 (Blood and Fire 2), 6 (Enemy: Starfleet), 7 (The Child), 8 (Kitumba 1) and 9 (Kitumba 2) are all sitting around on somebody's hard drive. There's more unreleased than released.

Any plans to change this?
 
Just read about this episode last week and now that the poster is out, I'm more interested in seeing what happens. I was just thinking it would be interesting to see Benny pop up in the ward with Kirk.
 
While it's great that you've got pictures for this upcoming episode, whatever happened to Blood and Fire part 2? The first part came out nearly a year ago, and there's no sign part 2 is ever coming out.

I'm not sure what to think about this series. With only three episodes out, they had to go back and re-edit the pilot, then do a special edition of the second, the fourth is released and they retitle the dang thing as Phase 2, and delay for a long long long time.

The last I heard, episode 9 had already wrapped, so episodes 5 (Blood and Fire 2), 6 (Enemy: Starfleet), 7 (The Child), 8 (Kitumba 1) and 9 (Kitumba 2) are all sitting around on somebody's hard drive. There's more unreleased than released.

Any plans to change this?

Yes, isn't that exciting?

As always, you can find the answers about what is happening with our production on our own forum.

When production quality is as high as ours is, and the work is being done by industry pros when they aren't working on their "day job", the post-production can take some time.

"Blood and Fire, Part 2" (episode 5) is expected out by the end of September. "The Child" (episode 7) is nearly done... we'll probably wait a couple months rather than releasing it immediately after BAF-2. "Kitumba" (episode 8...it's only one part) is heavy into post-production. "Enemy: Starfleet" (episode 5) has all the CGI work completed and is waiting for a few pickup shots in October.

So... fans can most likely expect to see 4 episodes released by next June, when we start shooting our 9th. That will, unfortunately, leave nothing in post-production and will generate complaints amongst our fans. It's pretty much a no-win situation.
 
As always, you can find the answers about what is happening with our production on our own forum.
Geez. That means I have to click more than once, and that's asking a lot! :lol:

So... fans can most likely expect to see 4 episodes released by next June, when we start shooting our 9th. That will, unfortunately, leave nothing in post-production and will generate complaints amongst our fans. It's pretty much a no-win situation.

I'd like to have more than one a year. They're good. I mean really good, it's like finding missing episodes from the first two seasons, before it took a nose-dive in quality in year three, already restored and with sweet-looking effects. It's just cruel to tease us with so much upcoming Treksweetness and not be here yet.
 
OmahaStar

I've been thinking about your comments, and I want to say this: I have been working on a website about Star Trek Fan Films, and as a result, have developed a number of classifications for them. Phase II is what I call, "Professional not-for-profit" Star Trek. CEC and RFS do not make a profit on it due to copyright limitations, but the leaders of this group, including Cawley himself, are film and television professionals. Just as you would expect to get top quality health care in a not-for-profit hospital, you would expect to get quality Star Trek from Phase II. You might, however, not get ENOUGH of it. That is how I think about Phase II. Perhaps that will help.
 
OmahaStar

I've been thinking about your comments, and I want to say this: I have been working on a website about Star Trek Fan Films, and as a result, have developed a number of classifications for them. Phase II is what I call, "Professional not-for-profit" Star Trek. CEC and RFS do not make a profit on it due to copyright limitations, but the leaders of this group, including Cawley himself, are film and television professionals. Just as you would expect to get top quality health care in a not-for-profit hospital, you would expect to get quality Star Trek from Phase II. You might, however, not get ENOUGH of it. That is how I think about Phase II. Perhaps that will help.

I think this "not-for-profit" description might be a little misleading. It sounds like we are allowed to collect revenue--somehow--from these episodes as long as we don't collect any more than we actually spent in making the episodes. That is, it sounds like we can cover our costs as long as we don't net any profit in the whole thing.

But that isn't the case. We aren't allowed to recover a cent. That's gross income we are not allowed to make, not just net income. So not only are we "not-for-profit," we are actually "not-for-any-kind-of-income-at-all-even-to-cover-our-expenses-in-making-the-episodes." Our top line must be zero, not just our bottom line.

We spend thousands of dollars to make these silly episodes. I didn't want it to be construed that we are somehow allowed to break even on the whole operation.
 
OmahaStar

I've been thinking about your comments, and I want to say this: I have been working on a website about Star Trek Fan Films, and as a result, have developed a number of classifications for them. Phase II is what I call, "Professional not-for-profit" Star Trek. CEC and RFS do not make a profit on it due to copyright limitations, but the leaders of this group, including Cawley himself, are film and television professionals. Just as you would expect to get top quality health care in a not-for-profit hospital, you would expect to get quality Star Trek from Phase II. You might, however, not get ENOUGH of it. That is how I think about Phase II. Perhaps that will help.

I think this "not-for-profit" description might be a little misleading. It sounds like we are allowed to collect revenue--somehow--from these episodes as long as we don't collect any more than we actually spent in making the episodes. That is, it sounds like we can cover our costs as long as we don't net any profit in the whole thing.

But that isn't the case. We aren't allowed to recover a cent. That's gross income we are not allowed to make, not just net income. So not only are we "not-for-profit," we are actually "not-for-any-kind-of-income-at-all-even-to-cover-our-expenses-in-making-the-episodes." Our top line must be zero, not just our bottom line.

We spend thousands of dollars to make these silly episodes. I didn't want it to be construed that we are somehow allowed to break even on the whole operation.

Thank you for that clarification. That was my original understanding, and some other fan film makers told me that that wasn't the case. Of course, you could both be right. It makes sense to me that Paramount would be a lot more worried about Phase II than some of these other operations most of which I would describe as enthusiastic, but not as professional. Also, Phase II is more of a black-and-white copyright franchise issue than some of the others.

When I first came to the Fan Film world, copyright issues were among the first to interest me, as I once was the president of an Intellectual Property group of young lawyers. Although your crew has made brief appearances in other fan films, most of them use primarily original characters. My familiarity with the storied history of Superman and Batman in the U.S. legal system tells me that Paramount would face a much tougher legal battle with other fan film makers than they would with a group producing TOS Trek with the original characters, who when aged turn into... glug glug glug (I'm drowning here, people...) the original cast members. :eek:

The real problem fan films face is this: As long as there is no money in it, there is no money to pay to protect their interests. Also, most fans would gladly give up making fan films if only Paramount would produce more Trek. So, without regard to the many reasons I think a case against Paramount would be winnable, most fans wouldn't want to win that case.

The community of Trek fans I know, which is the Trek Fan Lovers who work in real science and science education, (I come from a family where about half of us are doctors or scientists, and my friends are likewise inclined) was very disappointed by JJA Trek. My review of JJA Trek (Blog 211) reflects their views. In contrast, James Cawley responded something to the effect of "Trek is Back!". My friends said, "Trek is dead." We have been cheered up by some of the fan films, though.

The Warner Communications/DC Comics franchise about Superman was once very broad. In the late 1940s and early 1950s they shut down Captain Marvel who had a cape and flew based on copyright violation of Superman. But as time went by, more and more superheroes entered the comic book world, and by the 1980s and 1990s it was clear that that case would have gone the other way if brought then. Today, the Superman franchise rights are remarkably narrow. This, despite the fact that since Superman was first introduced at the end of the 1930s, not one month has gone by in which no professional Superman was produced. No argument exists for franchise abandonment.

The Stargate series uses a semi-military setting. Buck Rogers... well, you know more than I do... is space adventure. And what was really unique to Star Trek, the use of real projections about science and society, was completely absent from JJA Trek. What's more Paramount produced no Trek from 1969 until 1979, except for TAS for two years. Several fan films were produced at that time.

Frankly, if I represented Phase II I think I would win in court in the case of Paramount v Phase II. I would kill them against the other TOS time period fan films. I might be able to get the case against Star Trek: Aurora dismissed as not stating a cause of action. It's just that it would cost money, even if I volunteered my time, Phase II and the other fan films don't have the money.

I once worked on an antitrust case against the then-giant Eastman Kodak Company. I represented Berkey Film, less than 1 per cent of the US film market against Kodak's roughly 95 per cent. (most of the rest was Fugi). We won in court. We won on appeal. We lost Berkey, which went bankrupt anyway. I was not personally involved in a RICO case a group of blue collar workers brought against the Helmsley Real Estate empire, for defrauding them in the sale of low-end condos, but it was a case I had an interest in for legal reasons. Again, the blue collar workers kept winning, but in the end, the Helmsleys kept the lawsuit going and wouldn't settle, and it was the blue collar workers wound up in bankruptcy court. It doesn't really matter who is right when the combatants are not even, and even here where I think it's pretty clear that the only TOS Fan Trek Paramount has even the color of a case against is Phase II, I would never advise anyone, no matter how personally rich, to do the lawsuit. OK, If Bill Gates was a Phase II fan, I might reconsider...

Thank you for the clarification. I want to be clear, also, that I think your stuff is really wonderful, and there are those of us out here in non-costumed, non-convention-going Trekland who you never hear from and who love it. People who work in the development labs at Pharma companies. People who work in Math and Science departments at Universities. People who are doctors, engineers, and software developers. And science and math educators, too.

In fact, let me throw an idea at you. Have you ever considered developing a science education show for PBS based on TOS, and throwing that at both PBS and Paramount? Paramount might be more open to that than to just-for-fun fan films. NovaScienceNow did two TOS sequences this summer (green screens only, and yes, I pointed out that there was a real set in Fort Henry to Dr. Tyson, but he thought it would be too expensive to work out all the details with you and shoot up there). There might also be interest in funding a science education show based on TOS from NASA suppliers and the aerospace industry. Just a thought.

In the meanwhile, I hope your Buck Rogers project goes really well, and that you make some money out of it, and not just to cover your out-of-pocket costs.
 
Good luck (break a leg?) Mr. Cawley - you've got a heck of an acting challenge with this one!

GREAT choice for an episode, guys!
 
Poster doesn't do very much for me. Probably because everything's centered. The picture is all about the mental state of the person in the straitjacket... Why not set the focus on that? Offset the title at an extreme angle or some such; create a bit of tension focusing on the middle of the photograph... Might make things more interesting?
 
Just a couple of nits. Paramount didn't produce TAS, Filmation did (thus, why it was considered off limits for a time, Paramount didn't have any legal rights to most of the material; that situation has been resolved and TAS is now back in the canon fold).

Also, the renewal of copyright that Paramount did in 1978 (ever notice that little blurb on the bottom of the screen at the end of some TOS episodes? Right below the Desilu logo?), plus the appearances of TOS specific characters and settings in later incarnations (TNG, "Relics", DS9, "Trials and Tribble-ations", and Enterprise's "In a Mirror, Darkly..." being the highest profile examples) would probably be enough to deny any claims of abandonment on the part of Paramount.
 
According to the number of blatant TAS references that were made during DS9 and Enterprise, plus the fact that the TAS DVD set is produced by CBS/Paramount Home Video, not Filmation. The infamous memo was for the writers, to make sure they didn't produce a script that was gonna get them sued at a time when Filmation was closing down and could certainly use some o' them Star Trek dollars (plus, they were in the middle of negotiating the matter of getting the rights to that material back into Paramount's hands; it was for legal reasons that TAS was considered "hands off" when TNG started, not because it was a lowly cartoon that Roddenberry was suddenly embarrassed of).
 
Instead of "not-for-profit" I'd classify Phase II as "negatively financed" or, in English, "costs everyone involved a bundle without hope for reimbursement".. all done for the love of the thing, of course!!
 
Instead of "not-for-profit" I'd classify Phase II as "negatively financed" or, in English, "costs everyone involved a bundle without hope for reimbursement".. all done for the love of the thing, of course!!

Clearly true. :vulcan: Which I suppose is why I can't help obsessing about some way you could at least get your money back out of it, and hook Paramount on OKing the deal. It's probably as impossible as squaring a circle, but it's become a minor obsession of mine that it's JUST NOT FAIR that you do all that and they won't even let you just break even.

Again, I contrast Warner/DC Comics, which consistently does whatever it can with Superman, with Paramount, which treats Star Trek like an unwanted stepchild. Case in point: Smallville is going into it's NINTH year although it's rating are a fraction of what TNG's where when it was cancelled at year 7. But, since Cawley LIKED the JJA Trek, I figure you are less annoyed by all this than I am. Frankly, I'd rather watch CEC/RFS stuff than JJA's. I'm not a fancy CGI person.

Hope you guys make nice money on Buck Rogers Begins.
 
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