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No love for Merlin?

Sure you're not from Yorkshire?
Bob's from Hull, so he's from Yorkshire no matter what them bloody county boundaries say. Same goes for people in Cleveland. Whether thay like it or not.

:D

ITL, Slowly went off Merlin and didn't finish watching the first series.
Actually Hull's back to being in the East Riding of Yorkshire, they kinda disbanded the county of Humberside about 10 years ago...
Hmm. Deja Vu...I have a feeling that you've told me that before...Mine brain dodgy. Need new one.

Mine's an Absinth, BTW. Pint.
 
Bob's from Hull, so he's from Yorkshire no matter what them bloody county boundaries say. Same goes for people in Cleveland. Whether thay like it or not.

:D

ITL, Slowly went off Merlin and didn't finish watching the first series.
Actually Hull's back to being in the East Riding of Yorkshire, they kinda disbanded the county of Humberside about 10 years ago...
Hmm. Deja Vu...I have a feeling that you've told me that before...Mine brain dodgy. Need new one.

Mine's an Absinth, BTW. Pint.

Not that I remember... and wow it was 14 years ago, I'm getting old...

And I already told ya, the sick man's not buying. Look towards the Scot.
 
...I mean if everyone has that attitude then no one will watch and it will be cancelled, not because it wasn't a good show, or not because there wasn't an audience, but because no one watched because it might be cancelled, and so it was because no one watched.
There are many shows I loved that were cancelled, doesn't mean I stop giving new shows a shot.
I'm not you. I'm tired of shows I like getting the axe. It's happened way too many times for me, so I do indeed no longer bother. Yes, I have been driven away from broadcast television because of that.

That doesn't mean I won't try an episode or two because if I like a show enough, I'll either see it on DVD or through other means, but definitely not on regular TV...
But as Wamdue says then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, enough people say "I'm not watching it because it might get cancelled" then it's going to get cancelled because no one is watching.

Not judging you personally, and I know a lot of people are doing the same thing. Which is why it kinda bugs me because it means shows I like are more likely to get canned.
Well, in the US, it doesn't matter if you're not a Nielsen household. Until the networks have a genuine, monetary reason to give any weight to the numbers viewing their shows by any method other than first broadcast, then whether or not I watch a show has no bearing whatsoever on whether the show gets cancelled or not.
 
I don't mind that it's a family oriented show having fun with the mythos, but they won't be teenagers forever. Being young isn't always peachy, either, and I'ts nice that the show acknowledges that with death and secrets and issues. If it got any more comical, that would be too far. Again, I think Merlin has a lot of the spirit of Buffy, and I'd like it to progress as such. For Merlin to survive in the US, it needs to stand out beyond being a Potter and Smallville ala.

I don't mind either how it sticks or doesn't stick to traditonal history or Arthurian bits. I do however, hope that a viewer won't find it's liberties, well, stupid. 'What? Second episode and Valiant is a bad guy? These people don't know what they're doing!' I really liked the final two eps, and I hope the show ahs found its footing for Season 2.

Are they figuring in Hulu these days for ratings? That's how I watched most of the show.
 
I don't know specifics. I know some networks do at least track online numbers. Some only pay attention to their own sites' streams, while others do also consider Hulu. However, ad rates and revenues are still based solely on Nielsons, so while they may get an idea about popularity from online numbers, those numbers still have almost no bearing on whether a show gets renewed or not.
 
Isn't Hulu in part with NBC? Much as it's nice to see Merlin on US network prime time, it doesn't look good for NBC if it doesn't have any of its own filler shows, rather is buying foreign series on the cheap. I wish they had done Crusoe properly. I hope they don't turn Merlin into Medieval Macguver like they did with that one!
 
Of the four major networks, NBC is the one that's hurting the most right now, and they're doing a lot of things to staunch the financial bleeding. That's why they're putting Leno on at 10 during the week; that's cheaper than anything else they could possibly put on at that hour. Buying Merlin on the cheap is another way of plugging a schedule hole on the cheap.

Look at it this way. Would you prefer an hour of Merlin every week or an hour of yet another stupid reality show in the same timeslot? :)
 
slightly off topic I can not wait to find out how well the Jay Leno show will do.

meanwhile I dont think NBC should flood its schedule with imports, I would hate to see the engine of TV production that is the US networks start to slow down, the rest of the world depends on it, for TV shows.
 
Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to do a serious, historical Arthurian epic set in post-Roman Britain, more power to them. I have fond memories of David Drake's THE DRAGON LORD, not to mention Parke Godwin's Arthurian novels.

Parke Godwin's novels are fun, but they're not "historically accurate." As Bob the Skutter said, no such thing is possible - Arthur didn't exist in anything like the form we have him from any period. No real records from the time. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

The "real" Arthur is the obne found in literature from the 12th-15th centuries, just as the only "real" Sherlock Holmes is found in a series of texts by Doyle.

But the Arthurian legends are flexible enough to all sorts of approaches--from Broadway musicals to R-rated blood and thunder. And, traditionally, most of them take place in some sort of vaguely medieval age of chivalry anyway.

But they're no infinitely flexible. My example, which you borrowed above, was Hercules and Xena. There were always core elements there which made those shows a version of Greek myth.

I thought, after the first episodes of Merlin, that the depiction of Merlin himself moved too far away from a core element (for me it has little or nothing to do with unverifiable historical accuracy). It was more akin to watching a movie about Sherlick Holmes in which Holmes is a male prostitute played by Keanu Reeves. At a certain point, it becomes something other than a Sherlock Holmes story.

MERLIN is a teen-friendly version with cool monsters and magic. It's HARRY POTTER meets SMALLVILLE meets CAMELOT.

Works for me.

Well, enough smart people here (including yourself) say it's worth viewing, so I'll pick it up on DVD. I need it for the thousand-plus Arthuriana collection anyways ... :)

Of course, it still looks to me like Meg Cabot's modern-day high school Arthurian reincarnation story, Avalon High, is a better kick at a Buffy version of Arthur's story. But I'll look forward to comparing them.
 
It's a bit fluffy but the actors are solid enough and their performances good. Charming is the word I think I'd use.

D'you see what I did there?
 
It's a bit fluffy but the actors are solid enough and their performances good. Charming is the word I think I'd use.

D'you see what I did there?


Plus, for family-friendly show, it has a surprisingly high body count. Not an episode goes by that a couple of red-cloaks don't bite the dust, and Uther is forever beheading people . . .

And while it's certainly no BSG, it does have its darker themes. Look at the episode where Morganna plots to have Uther assassinated.

And for the DS9 fans out there, you eventually get Alexander Siddig as an evil warlord!
 
Death is dealt with quite frankly on Merlin-one of folks major complaints that Enterprise was always too lax in that department.

One might also say that US television is already declining-constantly looking to Brit ideas and remakes and casting European actors in what little series we try to make. I hate reality tv, and it has ruined network television imo.

I need to finish my review on Merlin already!
 
I liked the show, and I want to track it down so I can see all of it.

Did CTV preempt it a few times, or change the time slot on occasion or something? or am I just horribly unorganized.

Regardless, I missed a lot of episodes.
 
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