More than that actually. The fleet includes:
USS Armstrong
USS Defiant
USS Enterprise
USS Excelsior
USS Mayflower
USS Newton
Differences between Trek XI movie vs. novelization
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I read this because I was hoping that it maybe delved a little deeper into some things than the movie but I was expecting too much.
I definitely agree about the young Kirk scene though. I was really glad to better understand the context of that part in the movie. If nothing else, the novel was worth it for that because that car steal/chase/crash scene kinda bothered me a little without knowing the background.
I was also going to mention the beagle
I wonder if these two parts of the book were scenes that were shot and then cut out of the movie?
I definitely agree about the young Kirk scene though. I was really glad to better understand the context of that part in the movie. If nothing else, the novel was worth it for that because that car steal/chase/crash scene kinda bothered me a little without knowing the background.
I was also going to mention the beagle
I wonder if these two parts of the book were scenes that were shot and then cut out of the movie?
Yeah, I noticed that too once I read the book. In the book I noticed there were a lots of scenes and the movie there was not as much said like the book. You know like in the book around the begaing it talks about Spock's birth in which the movie it was edit out. And also there is a part in the movie where the whole crew on the bridge is discusing about the situation with Pike be held captive, and Nero and the change in the timeline, there is a part where Kirk is sitting in the Captain's chair and Spock says "Out of the chair" that part was not even discused in the book. Did anybody noticed that too?
AFAIK, that happened in the original timeline as well: Kirk graduated from the Academy with the rank of Lieutenant (the time he was an Ensign was while on Academy cadet cruises). So I guess they called him that in the XI novelization because that's the rank he's actually supposed to have (even though Kirk isn't technically graduated yet, although none of the rest of the cadets are either and they all have their ranks).
Makes the end scene less of a leap of logic, really...going from Lieutenant to Captain (skipping 2 ranks) is not as bad as from *Cadet* to Captain.
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I believe many of the differences between the novel and the movie may be due to the fact that the Novel was based on an earlier version of the screenplay that what was filmed.
The supernova at the very beginning. How did this realate to the story?
Liked the change with Jim Kirks reasons for stealing the car, now it makes more sense.
The massive crater in Iowa is explained, sort of I suppose.
Kirk telling the crew about old spock to gain trust....um ok i guess, just hurry up and stop talking about parellel timelines. Go save Earth.
The small changes about the end don't matter a whole lot really. At least Kirks hands didn't look so phony in my minds eye as the did on the screen.
I did think Spock giving the finger to the Vulcans was funny. I read it twice to make sure i read it right. I though I musta forgot that from the film until I was like no way...its new!
Why does Chekov switch from Keptin to Captain back and forth?
Archers dog beaming aboard is cute, but weird. Sorta the whole thing was like that. Cute but weird.
So all and all Star Trek by A D F was pretty much the same, but a fun read.
that was fun...now on to Troublesome Minds, which I was gonna read first, but then didn't.
Liked the change with Jim Kirks reasons for stealing the car, now it makes more sense.
The massive crater in Iowa is explained, sort of I suppose.
Kirk telling the crew about old spock to gain trust....um ok i guess, just hurry up and stop talking about parellel timelines. Go save Earth.
The small changes about the end don't matter a whole lot really. At least Kirks hands didn't look so phony in my minds eye as the did on the screen.
I did think Spock giving the finger to the Vulcans was funny. I read it twice to make sure i read it right. I though I musta forgot that from the film until I was like no way...its new!
Why does Chekov switch from Keptin to Captain back and forth?
Archers dog beaming aboard is cute, but weird. Sorta the whole thing was like that. Cute but weird.
So all and all Star Trek by A D F was pretty much the same, but a fun read.
that was fun...now on to Troublesome Minds, which I was gonna read first, but then didn't.
It's not a crater, it's a quarry. Straight sides.
ADF's ten-volume "Star Trek Log" series is cute-but-weird, too.
Sorry, but doesn't the novelisation's idea that the car young Kirk steals is his dad's create more problems? If it belonged to George Kirk senior, it's even more unlikely that James wouldn't have known how to work a car in A Piece of the Action, as his dad probably would've shown him.
I noticed in the novelisation a moment just after the red alert has come through from Vulcan and Kirk's trial is adjourned, Captain Pike walks past Kirk and says "Cheating isn't winning", in a bit of a mean way IMO. Don't remember that in the film.
I noticed in the novelisation a moment just after the red alert has come through from Vulcan and Kirk's trial is adjourned, Captain Pike walks past Kirk and says "Cheating isn't winning", in a bit of a mean way IMO. Don't remember that in the film.
I don't think the car was Kirk's dad's. It was implied that it belonged to the character Greg Grunberg voiced. Now, we don't know who this character actually was, but it is implied through the script and writer interviews that it was either Kirk's step-dad or Kirk's uncle (presumably Mom-Kirk's brother).
If that is the case, then we have two secenarios.
1) If Greg Grunberg was a step-dad, then in the prime-universe, Kirk never met the guy (as Dad-Kirk was still alive) and would never have had contact with the car to begin with.
2) If he is Kirk's uncle, then we can conjecture that the uncle didn't let anyone near his car (as evidenced by the fact that he was so pissed that Kirk took it joy riding, referring to it as a classic, I believe).
He was dispatched fairly quickly for a "badass."
It must have been discussed while I was on one of my sea and sun gathering summer adventures.
Because I somehow managed to completely miss this one.
I don't get it though.
Why would Foster change the guy's name when every official material for the movie has him as Richard ?
Because Robau is so badass he's got more than one first name.
Sean
Ah...gotcha. My answer was in regards to what was on screen as I thought that was what the car-question referred to.
He was dispatched fairly quickly for a "badass."It must have been discussed while I was on one of my sea and sun gathering summer adventures.
Because I somehow managed to completely miss this one.
I don't get it though.
Why would Foster change the guy's name when every official material for the movie has him as Richard ?
Because Robau is so badass he's got more than one first name.
Sean
Yeah but he was kinda scary in Iron Man.
Very minor difference but in the movie there is a good line (imo) when Kirk meets McCoy and Mccoy says "...ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce, all I got left is my Bones" and in the book he says "... all i got left is the skeleton..."
Skeleton? yeah, that explains the nickname...
Skeleton? yeah, that explains the nickname...
He was dispatched fairly quickly for a "badass."Because Robau is so badass he's got more than one first name.
That's just what Robau wants you to think.
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