The Alliance we have, Feds, Klingons and who?

[Garak007]

Ok, after Garak blew up that ship in the Pale Moonlight the Romulans decided to join the Alliance. In that case how comes in all ship to ship commutations in the battles proceeding that incident we have no Romulans disscusing tactics. Yet there was constant commuciation with General Martok on the Klingon side.

It seemed that the Romulans were just there to make up the numbers or did the creators just ran out of Fed and Klingon models :P

I can only recall seeing a romulan once talking about tactics in the war room at DS9 (not counting the last ep).

This does not make any sence I would of thought you want to commucate with your allies all the time. Specially during battle as Friendly fire is one of my issues you want to avoid.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Ok, after Garak blew up that ship in the Pale Moonlight the Romulans decided to join the Alliance. In that case how comes in all ship to ship commutations in the battles proceeding that incident we have no Romulans disscusing tactics. Yet there was constant commuciation with General Martok on the Klingon side.

It seemed that the Romulans were just there to make up the numbers or did the creators just ran out of Fed and Klingon models :P

I can only recall seeing a romulan once talking about tactics in the war room at DS9 (not counting the last ep).

This does not make any sence I would of thought you want to commucate with your allies all the time. Specially during battle as Friendly fire is one of my issues you want to avoid.

Well, we saw Romulan officers communicating with Klingon and Federation officers on the station in multiple episodes, and the character of Senator Cretak was particularly notable in this .

That said, I certainly get what you're saying about ship-to-ship. It did tend to be Sisko-Ross-Martok. During the final episode, though, (where this is most notable) it mentioned the Romulan flagship had been destroyed. Perhaps the Romulan counterpart to Ross or Martok was aboard, and this is why he/she doesn't participate in the viewscreen conference. Maybe the Romulans didn't have a clear commander in the immediate aftermath of the flagship being lost, which was why their lines were collapsing? Maybe the Romulan fleet commanders accepted battle plans from Ross or Martok in order to keep the alliance fleet together?

I do recall one episode- with the First Battle of Chin'toka- where an identifiably Romulan voice was heard issuing orders as part of the "chatter" from the Defiant's comm system.

 

[Elias Vaughn]

I assumed Sisko and Ross were in charge of strategies with the Klingons, and another admiral or captain was in charge of conferring with the Romulans.

 

[nx1701g]

I assumed Sisko and Ross were in charge of strategies with the Klingons, and another admiral or captain was in charge of conferring with the Romulans.

I always assumed that they brought the ideas to the Romulans after they'd planned them because the Romulans always tried to find some sort of fault and wouldn't agree to it. Like when they invaded Chin'toka the Romulan Admiral seemed to been doom and gloom the entire time saying that it just wouldn't work.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Romulan represenatatives we saw during the Dominion war:

- Senator Letant (Tears of the Prophets)
- Senator Cretak (Image in the Sand, Shadws and Symbols, Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges)
- General Velal (When It Rains..., The Dogs of War)

All of these people participated in war conferences and meetings with Admiral Ross and General Martok aboard DS9. However, we didn't actually saw them participate in any battles. However, we could assume that Velal took part in the final battle of the war and that he was perhaps killed when the Romulan flagship was destroyed.

Other than the Federation or the Klingons, the Romulans had no permanent representative on the show. Instead they were constantly changing.

 

[Garak007]

Other than the Federation or the Klingons, the Romulans had no permanent representative on the show. Instead they were constantly changing.

Perhaps that was the problem. The Romulans such a vital part of the alliance well at lest Garak and Sisko thought did not seemed to get a familiar face we could see week end and week out once they joined the war.

 

[Tallis Rhul]

They were on a winner with Cretak initially, and I'm not sure why she wasn't made more of a regular feature. However I'm pretty sure that the actor who played her in Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges was different than the one who originally appeared so that may answer some questions.

As for the ship-to-ship, let's not forget that Sisko wasn't an Admiral, he was just adjutant to Bill Ross, who himself was a Vice-Admiral. That would imply that Ross would be giving orders to the whole fleet and Sisko would be responsible for a part of it. Martok and Sisko were friends as well as commanders, and the fact that Worf was part of Sisko's crew would also have provided a good enough reason for Sisko to be the one that liaised with Martok and the Klingons.

That said I can't get enough of Warbirds. More Romulans would have been absolutely lovely.

 

[DevilEyes]

They were on a winner with Cretak initially, and I'm not sure why she wasn't made more of a regular feature. However I'm pretty sure that the actor who played her in Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges was different than the one who originally appeared so that may answer some questions.

And you are right, she was first played by Megan Cole, and then by Adrienne Barbeau. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Kimara_Cretak

It was weird, because at first I didn't even realize she was supposed to be the same person when I saw her in "Inter Arma Enim Silent Legis", before I understood it from the dialogue.

 

[Booked_moss]

I tend to think of it as space being so massive and each power having its own area to protect that most of the fighting done by the Romulans was well away from DS9 so they were not shown.

My take on the Ross/Martok/Sisko slit screen coms scene was that Martok, Ross and the Romulan head had already forumlated the attack plan and were simply passing on the plan to the captins of the fleet. Just Ross and Martok for whatever reason told Sisko personally prior to the rest of the fleet due to his position of Adjutant/Commander of DS9 (the last Starfleet station before you hit Cardassian/dominion space)/Personaly connections with Ross and Martok etc...

 

[Tallis Rhul]

Sounds feasible.

And you're quite right about the Romulans, they spent time retaking the Bolarus system and the such like after joining the war while Sisko and the others continued their work on the Cardassian front.

 

[nx1701g]

My take on the Ross/Martok/Sisko slit screen coms scene was that Martok, Ross and the Romulan head had already forumlated the attack plan and were simply passing on the plan to the captins of the fleet. Just Ross and Martok for whatever reason told Sisko personally prior to the rest of the fleet due to his position of Adjutant/Commander of DS9 (the last Starfleet station before you hit Cardassian/dominion space)/Personaly connections with Ross and Martok etc...

That's a possibility too. Ross, Martok (since he was commander of the 9th Fleet that Defiant/DS9 belonged to), and the Romulan Commander may have previously met together to discuss it.

 

[Tallis Rhul]

We didn't get to see that which is a shame. I always enjoyed it when Bill Ross ended up standing between a Romulan who'd decided to taunt Martok to the point where Martok was spitting on him and ready to declare a thumb war.

 

[BolianAuthor]

Ok, after Garak blew up that ship in the Pale Moonlight the Romulans decided to join the Alliance. In that case how comes in all ship to ship commutations in the battles proceeding that incident we have no Romulans disscusing tactics. Yet there was constant commuciation with General Martok on the Klingon side.

It seemed that the Romulans were just there to make up the numbers or did the creators just ran out of Fed and Klingon models :P

I can only recall seeing a romulan once talking about tactics in the war room at DS9 (not counting the last ep).

This does not make any sence I would of thought you want to commucate with your allies all the time. Specially during battle as Friendly fire is one of my issues you want to avoid.

Well, we saw Romulan officers communicating with Klingon and Federation officers on the station in multiple episodes, and the character of Senator Cretak was particularly notable in this .

That said, I certainly get what you're saying about ship-to-ship. It did tend to be Sisko-Ross-Martok. During the final episode, though, (where this is most notable) it mentioned the Romulan flagship had been destroyed. Perhaps the Romulan counterpart to Ross or Martok was aboard, and this is why he/she doesn't participate in the viewscreen conference. Maybe the Romulans didn't have a clear commander in the immediate aftermath of the flagship being lost, which was why their lines were collapsing? Maybe the Romulan fleet commanders accepted battle plans from Ross or Martok in order to keep the alliance fleet together?

I do recall one episode- with the First Battle of Chin'toka- where an identifiably Romulan voice was heard issuing orders as part of the "chatter" from the Defiant's comm system.

It all started when the Romulan told Martok that Romulans don't believe in luck. Once he said that... everything started going south from there... no more including the Romulans in staff meetings.