...or change the nature of miles so that 75 of them are smaller.
Pyramid Skyscraper To Orbit?
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^As much as I hate defending Tachy, maybe you should read the OP and the thread again, Scout, before going on (more than once) about a 25,000 mile tall pyramid. He didn't say the top of it had to be in asynchronous orbit. He shouldn't have used the word orbit really, but he did make it clear in the OP that he wanted a building tall enough to touch the upper atmosphere (about 50-75 miles) and then later to be able to launch spaceships from it into orbit.
I'm the first person to jump on him for saying stupid shit guys, but when you're completely and I suspect willingly misinterpreting what he's saying just to poke sticks at him you're not really making yourself look any smarter, just dishonest and/or disadvantaged when it comes to reading comprehension.
I'm the first person to jump on him for saying stupid shit guys, but when you're completely and I suspect willingly misinterpreting what he's saying just to poke sticks at him you're not really making yourself look any smarter, just dishonest and/or disadvantaged when it comes to reading comprehension.
Wanna quote the part of my post you just responded to that mentions 25k miles? I don't see it? A previous poster talked about that, and I weighed in there, but the post you're responding to is strictly about the OP. I even talked about the first 50-60 miles of the 75-mile structure, champ. Biggest thing I mentioned was "size of a country", and he just finished talking about Togo, so seems like I'm in the clear. While we're at it, YOU might want to re-read the thread. You accuse me specifically of mentioning a "25,000 mile" pyramid "more than once". I don't appear to have mentioned that even a single time. Closest I see is RIGHT after someone made that calculation, and I joked about reshaping the globe itself into a pyramid shape.
And the mileage thing (75 vs 25k) only came about because of the OP's confusion about the distance required vs what he was actually trying to achieve in the first place. He wasn't trying to just build a big building, it had a purpose, which wouldn't be achieved by the size he selected.
How about that "disadvantaged reading comprehension" thing?
And the mileage thing (75 vs 25k) only came about because of the OP's confusion about the distance required vs what he was actually trying to achieve in the first place. He wasn't trying to just build a big building, it had a purpose, which wouldn't be achieved by the size he selected.
How about that "disadvantaged reading comprehension" thing?
^I readily admit defeat. Read the last 20 posts and the exchanges between Tacky, Alpha, Trekker and you for a hint of why I was left with the impression you were jumping on the hate-Tacky bandwagon. I hadn't read page one in days.
On another note, this forum used to be good before noknowes and Tacky. What the fuck happened to turn it into Science TNZ? Even I seem to be unable to resist.... I'll just blame the moderator.
On another note, this forum used to be good before noknowes and Tacky. What the fuck happened to turn it into Science TNZ? Even I seem to be unable to resist.... I'll just blame the moderator.
I don't disagree with your premise about my beliefs, just your specifics about my posts, or that you targeted me out on that one as being the offender. Generally, the most fun here is had by NOT making anything up, but by using the OP's words themselves to highlight the utter failure of each new "idea". Not really a "hate Tachy" bandwagon, anyway. Just more of an understanding of things at even an introductory level, and disliking people that repeatedly ignore this in favor of arrogance and claims of precognition.
And yes, this forum used to be interesting. But now Tachy is allowed pretty much free reign of it, and actual discussion of science, real or possible, was replaced by "kewl" ideas like wondering how fast you'd have to run backwards in order to achieve escape velocity.
Until someone clamps down on prolific retardation poluting the forum, it'll just be an entertaining place to shoot down hair-brained schemes using 3rd grade science knowledge, all while being careful to criticize as heavily as possible without drawing a warning.
Makes good fodder for TNZ threads, though.
And yes, this forum used to be interesting. But now Tachy is allowed pretty much free reign of it, and actual discussion of science, real or possible, was replaced by "kewl" ideas like wondering how fast you'd have to run backwards in order to achieve escape velocity.
Until someone clamps down on prolific retardation poluting the forum, it'll just be an entertaining place to shoot down hair-brained schemes using 3rd grade science knowledge, all while being careful to criticize as heavily as possible without drawing a warning.
Makes good fodder for TNZ threads, though.
All Seeing Eye
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I simply start threads on subjects I want to discuss about. I don't prevent others from starting threads in here and neither do I ask other members to poke fun or attack me for my ideas or questions.
If the Sci tech forum has gone downhill which to me is not the case then it's nothing to do with me. I've posted in this here Sci Tech forum for 9 years and i've seen no changes in that time.
If the Sci Tech forum has in your estimation got worse then it's because of certain posters coming into my threads for no other reason than to have a laugh at my expense and add no proper conversation to the subject being discussed.
If anything needs clamping down on it's people coming here from TNZ looking to cause trouble.
The fact that certain posters in TNZ literally tell everyone about my new sci tech threads, post a link to them and then tell people in TNZ to make their way over here is evidence enough of who are the ones making Sci Tech a worse forum.
There should be rules in place about advertising none TNZ threads in TNZ and then telling people to go over to those threads.
Well, there are now two religions.
1. The church of Taccys literal words
2. The church of the spirit of Taccys words
I'll stick with my original interpretation of "orbit" to mean "orbit". If you choose to make "orbit" mean "beyond the atmosphere", that's your decision to make, and your cart to fill with reasons his ideas won't work.
I'll stick with my cart. The pyramid beside the earth makes me smile.
Although, TBH, I think the 22,500 mile pyramid to orbit has pretty much run its course unless Taccy changes again to make it use antigravity or something moving at incredible velocities.
What say you of the 75 mile crowd?
1. The church of Taccys literal words
2. The church of the spirit of Taccys words
I'll stick with my original interpretation of "orbit" to mean "orbit". If you choose to make "orbit" mean "beyond the atmosphere", that's your decision to make, and your cart to fill with reasons his ideas won't work.
I'll stick with my cart. The pyramid beside the earth makes me smile.
Although, TBH, I think the 22,500 mile pyramid to orbit has pretty much run its course unless Taccy changes again to make it use antigravity or something moving at incredible velocities.
What say you of the 75 mile crowd?
Hate? Not me. I simply wish the guy would go arm himself with some basic knowledge and then discuss feasable projects here. I actually enjoy thought experiments if they could really go somewhere.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
I simply wanted to discuss the size of a pyramid of that magnitude, I said myself it would be impossible to accomplish mostly because it would serve no purpose in todays world, there's no doubt in my mind that right now it's a crazy idea but all I wanted to do was discuss how big something like that might be.
Why is that so hard for you to understand? why does everyone get so mad or irate just because I want to discuss things that are right now impossible?
All this complaining saying I don't understand basic physics is wrong but most of all is completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
It does not matter that we cannot now build such a pyramid, that does not prevent us from discussing such a subject.
If one more person comes into one of my threads and starts complaining that I should educate myself and that I know nothing about basic physics i'm going to have a nervous breakdown.
There are two issue here, but they kind of relate to one another.
The first one is that a good portion of the time Tachy does qualify his posts very well with "this is just a silly daydream". He's not necessarily asking if such a thing is practical or necessary, just whether or not it could be done. There is no need for ridicule over that, and there is certainly no defence if people are linking stuff from this forum into TNZ just to get people who normally don't even post here to come over and make snide remarks.
On the other hand, Tachy, sometimes you do pose questions that make many incorrect assumptions from the get go. It's hard to answer a hypothetical if the original question is flawed in 5 different ways, and people don't really have the patience to explain to you why something you said was wrong before even tackling the actual subject. You're certainly not noknowes and I don't think you're here to troll, but I don't have a feeling that math or physics is your natural strong suit and I think people jump on that maybe a bit too aggressively. I'm guilty of it. It's like when a creationist tries to argue evolution by asking how it's possible for DNA to evolve when "information can't be created" and then you have to explain to them how their question is wrong and you can't actually answer a question that doesn't make true assumptions in the first place.
You know what? From now on I'm not going to say anything in your threads if I don't have anything positive to contribute, you are correct that the reason the forum seems to be going down hill is because too many posters are becoming the centre of attention here instead of the subjects. If you think Tachy is an idiot and his threads suck, don't post in them. It's not TNZ and if I'm not careful one of these times I'll write something that will get me a warning because I'll forget it's not.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
^ I'm starting to like you. Not that I ever disliked you but I'm sure you know what I mean. 
Hmmmm, Yellow...
Look at your thread title. Look at my avatar graphic, because that's what it would actually take to do what your title and initial description, including the word "orbit" would take.
When do you think that will EVER be possible?
Again, not to defend Tachy on any level but:
He's not saying to have it reach "orbit" just the "edge of the atmosphere."
"Orbit" was obviously a poor choice of words, but he wasn't suggesting a pyramid that sent things into orbit, just a tall structure where the top of it was just oustside the atmosphere.
Just to be clear I wasn't blaming the moderator. Satire isn't one of my strong points, I'm more sarcastic than that.
...and that poor choice and its ilk are the crux of the problem. They are the reason I've suggested that Taccy go get some more learnin'. Those basic errors, misconceptions and wild-eyed schemes suggest that a more powerful engine needs to go under the hood, and Taccy has the power to make it so if he chooses.
What always surprises me is why people post questions like this in the first place, considering finding the answer yourself is simple enough with a few Google searches. You want to know how big the base would be for a pyramid whose top would peek out of the atmosphere? You Google the thickness of the atmosphere, add a bit to it and there's the height of the structure, then just Google the dimensions of some earthly pyramids, spend a minute with a calculator, and there's the answer.
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