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Moments where you knew you were seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine.

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BlastHardcheese

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I was pleased with the little nuances and moments with Chris Pine that made me believe he was Kirk rather than a pretender to the Shatnerian throne.

The least subtle that stands out in my mind is the scene with Kirk getting Spock angry to gain command. I love the obvious homage to This Side of Paradise and the way Pine channeled Shatner's hammy tendency to talk people/computers/objects into a rage/insanity and/or death.

Kirk's handling of tha Kobayashi Maru test anf his subsequent disciplinary hearing I think were perfectly written to echo TWOK. Plus if it happened at all like that in the prime universe, Spock's comment of "Your final solution was, shall we say... unique?" makes me grin now because what he really meant was "I'm still gonna get you for that".

JJ Abrams did say Pine's most kirkish moment was the "Spock, it'll work!" line and I have to agree. I hope Pine can keep channeling Kirk without channeling too much Shatner.
 
BlastHardcheese said:
gastrof said:
Don't be silly.

The changes to the timeline are all ironed out by the launch of Enterprise B. Kirk is lost, "rescued" by Picard in the 24th century, and still dies falling off of Soran's "fire escape". :lol:
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TAKE THAT BACK!!:wah:
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Don't worry, after the events in ST:XI I suspect that Starfleet would be too paranoid to every send a starship out that didn't have full systems, so no need for the Captain to go below decks, or for systems not to be fully in place and do their jobs. :techman:
 
I think my favorite moment where I really knew I was seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine was at the end, when Kirk was is in his gold uniform and they were on the bridge. That scene, he just really had that feel of Kirk to him. The way he spoke and held himself just really made me think "Kirk" and not anything else.
 
Aneas said:
I think my favorite moment where I really knew I was seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine was at the end, when Kirk was is in his gold uniform and they were on the bridge. That scene, he just really had that feel of Kirk to him. The way he spoke and held himself just really made me think "Kirk" and not anything else.
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Completely agree. Also the leg over the other leg helped a lot when he was sitting in the chair.

I'm sure it was intentional to make him the most Kirk-like in that scene.
 
Kpnuts said:
Aneas said:
I think my favorite moment where I really knew I was seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine was at the end, when Kirk was is in his gold uniform and they were on the bridge. That scene, he just really had that feel of Kirk to him. The way he spoke and held himself just really made me think "Kirk" and not anything else.
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Completely agree. Also the leg over the other leg helped a lot when he was sitting in the chair.

I'm sure it was intentional to make him the most Kirk-like in that scene.
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Probably, I mean that was where the crew and everything is finally all in place the way it was in TOS. It would only make sense for them to make sure that Kirk was at that point actually Kirk...
 
For me, it was the scene at Starfleet Academy where he says he has to go study...and then goes off to knob the Orion chick with the cracking rack.

Of course, there is one opportunity they missed in the film - ripping Kirk's shirt during a fight...come on...The bar brawl would have been different - and really would have been "an even fight".
 
Aneas said:
I think my favorite moment where I really knew I was seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine was at the end, when Kirk was is in his gold uniform and they were on the bridge. That scene, he just really had that feel of Kirk to him. The way he spoke and held himself just really made me think "Kirk" and not anything else.
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That's a very strong moment. We came home this weekend from our 3rd viewing, and watched some tv eps. My wife's seen very few of them, but she was able to point to Kirk moments from TOS that Pine had done a good job of emulating.

Interesting to see it from a n00b's perspective.
 
Kpnuts said:
Aneas said:
I think my favorite moment where I really knew I was seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine was at the end, when Kirk was is in his gold uniform and they were on the bridge. That scene, he just really had that feel of Kirk to him. The way he spoke and held himself just really made me think "Kirk" and not anything else.
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Completely agree. Also the leg over the other leg helped a lot when he was sitting in the chair.

I'm sure it was intentional to make him the most Kirk-like in that scene.
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It was. Pine imitates Shatner's posture, his walk, and his delivery in that scene, and I believe he or Abrams have remarked on it.

What I like is Pine's suddenly breathless, rapid-fire delivery and swagger in the Kobyashi Maru scene - it's a little bit of an over-the-top Shatner impression, and taken together with his performance in the final shot suggests that Pine intuits some of Kirk's more, um, dramatic mannerisms to be bits of bravado intended to command attention.
 
When i went to see the movie it was the KIRK role that was going to be a hard sell for me. i am a diehard Shatner fan and i really didnt think anyone would be able to pull it off. Because of that, i was going to be more critical of whoever took that role.

I immediately accepted McCoy. He nailed the character. I immediately accepted almost everyone except for Pine's Kirk. He really had to win me over. But i cannot say when the moment actually arrived where i was seeing Kirk and not Pine. It was very gradual and i do remember at one point about 3/4 of the way through the movie where i found myself saying.......YES YES! His portrayal was very subtle (at least thats how i saw it). By the second and third viewing i saw him throught completely different eyes.
 
Yeoman Randi said:
It was very gradual and i do remember at one point about 3/4 of the way through the movie where i found myself saying.......YES YES! His portrayal was very subtle (at least thats how i saw it). By the second and third viewing i saw him throught completely different eyes.
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This was my experience as well. The way I saw the movie, he slowly grew into the role, and maybe that was the point since we weren't really seeing "Shatner-Kirk" yet but rather the "Proto-Shatner-Kirk". The more the movie went along, the more he began to feel like the Kirk I grew up watching. I do agree that the "seal the deal" moment was the end bridge scene. He was clearly doing his hardest to channel the Shat in that scene and it worked well without being a parody.
 
TheOriginalGuru said:
For me, it was the scene at Starfleet Academy where he says he has to go study...and then goes off to knob the Orion chick with the cracking rack.

Of course, there is one opportunity they missed in the film - ripping Kirk's shirt during a fight...come on...The bar brawl would have been different - and really would have been "an even fight".
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Yep, that was the one thing that was missing. The. ripped. shirt.
I cannot tell you how i waited for that!!
 
The moment on the bridge where Uhura challenges Kirk on his plan was what sold Pine for me. That fleeting moment of self-doubt mirrored the Kirk of S1 TOS, who privately agonized about his command decisions to Bones and you could really see the burden of command.
 
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