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Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Things"

Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

Q's major story ended with TNG IMO. No need for him beyond that.

And you're a VOY hater? Nuts.

I don't think they got Q right in either Voyager or DS9, but yeah as far as Voyager, honestly, I had a hard time with Voyager's execution which was Dick, oops, I mean Rick Berman's:devil: fault for not being as careful with how Voyager was written, directed, and overall portrayed. But this is really off topic for this thread, I did watch the episodes with Q in DS9 and Voyager and he wasn't as dangerous or portrayed in a serious way, in other words those portrayals of Q had no weight.
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

De Lancie was a clown and played Q that way. Another actor say without that same smirk of oh I'm getting a big check would do better. I just can't picture John Delancie serious or in fact any of the Voyager crew or Enterprise crew. They all had that smirk. If the actors can't take Trek seriously what hope does the fans and audience have?
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I see Q from the perspective that he felt he had the responsibility of a god. Perhaps not an overly just or kind god, but a god nonetheless.

Q wasn't just doing his act for kicks; he was tasked by the continuum with evaluating humanity for their potential for growth and enlightenment.

In his first encounter, he tested their rationality in the face of a situation that could easily have triggered an instinct for violence in many other races. The Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians probably would've shot at the alien jellyfish and died spectacularly when it fought back.

In the second, Q tested their integrity in the face of self interest and the opportunity to take the easy path to "godhood". Perhaps Q himself wanted Riker to fully accept the gift to prove to the continuum that humans were just as weak-willed and opportunistic as any other race, but the other Q may have secretly hoped for Riker to prove he was better than that.

The introduction to the borg I think was Q's little chance for revenge against the Enterprise crew for making a fool of him the first two times. He did say he was told to gtfo of the continuum for a while and to me, he decided to givePicard a challenge that even he wasn't yet ready to handle. Q's subsequent punishment of being naked and mortal on the Enterprise bridge is good evidence that he was acting on his own agenda.

But I saw this too as a kind of test of humanity. What would you do with a spoiled overpowered god with a long list of enemies who suddenly became vulnerable and begged for your help? I think this was as much a punishment of Q as a test of his playthings to gauge their nobility once again.

With Tapestry, I think it was about Q trying to understand the linear nature of human life. Being omnipotent, he obviously had little or no concept of being unable to undo what he had already done or being unable to go backwards to a previous point in his own history. When you're a Q, the consequences of your actions truly don't matter because you're above and beyond mortal affairs and you can undo your own actions if compelled to by other Q. I think Q wanted to understand what made the ever noble and enlightened Picard into the man he was. I think Q learned to understand the moments that shape human beings and he was perhaps allowing his moments with them to shape his own character (if his future benevolence is anything to go by - I personally hated it in Voyager).

I think Q started out testing humanity and expecting them to fail like "lesser" beings naturally should. The fact of their success I think made Q humanity's secret advocate.
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I think Q started out testing humanity and expecting them to fail like "lesser" beings naturally should. The fact of their success I think made Q humanity's secret advocate.

A view point that's supported by the novel Q & A, which I found quite entertaining :techman:
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I think Q started out testing humanity and expecting them to fail like "lesser" beings naturally should. The fact of their success I think made Q humanity's secret advocate.

A view point that's supported by the novel Q & A, which I found quite entertaining :techman:

So did I! The book reasons very well about why Q started and continued to bother Picard and his crew for 15 years. Awesome stuff!
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I think Q started out testing humanity and expecting them to fail like "lesser" beings naturally should. The fact of their success I think made Q humanity's secret advocate.

A view point that's supported by the novel Q & A, which I found quite entertaining :techman:

So did I! The book reasons very well about why Q started and continued to bother Picard and his crew for 15 years. Awesome stuff!

Plust the end of AGT clearly shows Q is in Picard's corner... so long as Picard continues impress him anyway.
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I think Q started out testing humanity and expecting them to fail like "lesser" beings naturally should. The fact of their success I think made Q humanity's secret advocate.

A view point that's supported by the novel Q & A, which I found quite entertaining :techman:

This novel was a very well written and entertaining treatment and explanation behind the Q, byKeith R.A. DeCandido. Highly recommended :bolian:

He weaves all the reasoning behind the Q appearances throughout the narrative, and he also takes it to a new level. I bought four Trek books last year and this was my favorite.
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

Archer had the smirk of man getting a lucrative job and the pain of a man 52 trying to look 34.
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

Those of you who didn't like Q on Voyager... not even "Death Wish"?
 
Re: Monster? Q the teacher in "Tepestry", Q the judge in "All Good Thi

I, for one, liked Q himself in "Death Wish". What I didn't like was how the episode literalized the Q Continuum. Actually showing the Continuum, even in 'metaphorical' form, ruined its mystery and cheapened the character and his history. I think "Voyager" made the same mistake with the Borg by delving too deeply into its nature in terms of women and children. Some things are better left as vague and mysterious as they were on TNG.
 
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