How Will This Movie Stand the Test of Time?

[Warp Coil]

I think that the reaction to ST'09 will depend on the continued success of the franchise, and what direction it moves in. If ST'09 is the springboard for a healthy, successful run of feature films starring this new cast, and set in this new timeline, then the movie will probably hold up well and will be highly regarded. If the next film fails, and the franchise falls apart again, then ST'09 will likely just be a small blip on people's radar. Trek fans will remain torn - some will still love it while others will proclaim in the Abramsverse as an "epic fail" (basically the way things already are).

 

[startrekrcks]

I don't think the next one will fail because the actors know what they have to do like pay respect to what the original actors did but be their own

 

[Jayson]

Like I said in my thread, it holds up on dvd, so that is the first step. I think it will hold up pretty well over time. It's not a particualy deep movie, but the characters are intresting enough and a sense of fun, is something that works well in repeat viewings. A sense of fun can even have a longer self life than drama in alot of instances. That is why "Back to the Future" is a timeless classic.

Jason

 

[Chrisisall]

A sense of fun can even have a longer self life than drama in alot of instances. That is why "Back to the Future" is a timeless classic.

Yes!! That's why Shore Leave sticks in my head so fiercely after all these millenia, er, I mean, years.

 

[Jayson]

A sense of fun can even have a longer self life than drama in alot of instances. That is why "Back to the Future" is a timeless classic.

Yes!! That's why Shore Leave sticks in my head so fiercely after all these millenia, er, I mean, years.

It's not just that ep. I think "TOS" has stood the test of time
because of the sense of fun, the entire show had, even more so than the moral messages they would sometimes have. it certaintly wasn't those great and timeless special effects.

Jason

 

[Chrisisall]

it certaintly wasn't those great and timeless special effects.

Which is why the remastered OS eps are SO cool- FX that matches the level of the storytelling!!!!

....sorry- nerdgasm coming on....

 

[Therin of Andor]

OMG, you have the same opinion as I do? I thought I was the only sentient being on this planet that held this belief!!

I would have liked the early Data/Picard toasting scene restored, because it would have added some emotional weight to Data's sacrifice at the end, but that scene had unfinished SPFX work and I really can't see anyone throwing more cash at "Nemesis".

 

[Temis the Vorta]

It will hold up as a solid action movie with more intelligence than most that led Trek into even bigger and better things.

 

[Chrisisall]

It will hold up as a solid action movie with more intelligence than most that led Trek into even bigger and better things.

I would accept that as an axiom.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

My opinion (which isnt very insightful here) is this: for those of us who loved it, it WILL stand the test of time.

For those who hated it, it will go the way of the dodo bird.

Im just grateful it brought so many new people into the trek fold. That in itself is as awesome and badass as Robau himself.

 

[saddestmoon]

Yes - Trek 11 stands the test of time, forever and evermore...

 

[EnsignRicky]

Pretty poorly actually. The best this film could ever hope to achieve would be a 1025680C transfer; Which as we all know will look like complete crap on a Holoraybluberry 3.

Too soon?

 

[Dar70]

I think it will turn into the Voytage Home for many. That film is not as loved as it used to be. I really cant watch Voyage Home any longer. Thankfully I didnt like nuT very much and I dont think I ever will.

 

[Chrisisall]

Pretty poorly actually. The best this film could ever hope to achieve would be a 1025680C transfer; Which as we all know will look like complete crap on a Holoraybluberry 3.

Too soon?

LOL!!

I think it will turn into the Voytage Home for many. That film is not as loved as it used to be. I really cant watch Voyage Home any longer. Thankfully I didnt like nuT very much and I dont think I ever will.

I think it is time for a colourful metaphore...

 

[EnsignRicky]

Hey, I like the Voytage Home.

 

[Chrisisall]

Hey, I like the Voytage Home.

Yeah, Dar70 must have done too much LDS.

 

[SalvorHardin]

The test of time, mmm ?
The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is.

 

[FlapJoy]

It will always divide Trekkers (already a divsion with Trekkies) but in the long run it will be like Batman: Some love the campy tv series from the sixties, some favor the Burton films (Next Generation) which led to the Schumacher films (DS9 Voy) and still others will prefer the Nolan films as a reboot series. But to the rest of the general audience, it's all Batman, a character that will endure forever in all it's various forms. And I think Star Trek will do the same. In fact the new film should be given credit for revitalizing the Trek franchise and giving us new stories instead of the agonizing death it was suffering from.

 

[Lorien]

In fact the new film should be given credit for revitalizing the Trek franchise and giving us new stories instead of the agonizing death it was suffering from.

Only if you think that's a good thing. I, for one, think that when something has really outlived itself (which is not to say that's necessarily the case), it's good to let it die. "Revitalizing" is all too often a euphemism for spreading it yet further and thinner until the substance is finally gone and only the veneer remains and all a franchise has become is a Trojan horse for other writers and their own philosophy.

Can you give new substance to a shell? Sure. But why? Because you're afraid no one will listen if you give it your own shell? Not really the honest thing to do. Doing something from scratch is saying "Here's what I have to offer, you can take it or leave it, but it's mine and it's what I want to say". "Revitalizing a franchise", especially one as large as Star Trek's, is taking for granted a host of "yellow dog" Trekkies for whom it is most important they get more of something called "Star Trek" than what that something actually is. Which, again, is not to say that any one poster here would be counted among these but is simply a description of any fandom large enough.

For the sake of creativity, honesty and quality, in my eyes it's usually the better thing to start from scratch.

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Hey, I like the Voytage Home.

I kind of understand what he's saying though. TVH came out when I was 11 years old. I saw it more than twenty times in theaters and it seems like thousands of times on home video. By the time 1989 hit and TFF came out I was sick of Voytage Home. I couldn't stand it. I knew all the lines. All the character inflections. All the jokes. Between 1989 and 2009 I've watched TVH fewer than a dozen times.

Just sick of the sight of it.

I've only seen Star Track twice in theaters. I wanted to see it more. Wanted to see it every day and hour of the week since my first viewing. I've abstained because I'm afraid I might one day feel towards ST as I do towards Voytage Home.