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(HMS) Surprise! Crowe to return as Jack Aubrey?

My mom was president of The Star of India Auxiliary a few years ago. She's usually the one who still ends up organizing all the Parade of Lights Christmas dinner (hiring the French Gourmet and such), 4th of July and other festivities for them.

My parents are heavily involved with the Maritime Museum and various yacht clubs (we belong to Silver Gate Yacht Club on Shelter Island--my parents have also done volunteer stuff with other yacht clubs like Southwestern and Chula Vista, though). I've done junior sailing with Kona Kai, Silver Gate and San Diego. My dad is on the Board of Directors at Silver Gate. We've also done stuff for Make-A-Wish and the Wheelchair Regatta (which is held at Silver Gate). Then there are events like the Beer Can Races and Opening Day.

Yep, the HMS Surprise is down there and ready. My mom gives the Maritime Museum spiel about how the Surprise was in Master & Commander all the time. ;)

http://www.sdmaritime.com/
 
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My mom was president of The Star of India Auxiliary a few years ago. She's usually the one who still ends up organizing all the Parade of Lights Christmas dinner (hiring the French Gourmet and such), 4th of July and other festivities for them.

My parents are heavily involved with the Maritime Museum and various yacht clubs (we belong to Silver Gate Yacht Club on Shelter Island--my parents have also done volunteer stuff with other yacht clubs like Southwestern and Chula Vista, though). I've done junior sailing with Kona Kai, Silver Gate and San Diego. My dad is on the Board of Directors at Silver Gate. We've also done stuff for Make-A-Wish and the Wheelchair Regatta (which is held at Silver Gate). Then there are events like the Beer Can Races and Opening Day.

Yep, the HMS Surprise is down there and ready. My mom gives the Maritime Museum spiel about how the Surprise was in Master & Commander all the time. ;)

http://www.sdmaritime.com/

Awesome cool! It's good to see another San Diegian 'round these parts. I miss it down there (I'm now in San Jose).
 
Moreover, I'd love to see Horatio Hornblower get the M&C treatment.

Hornblower has had a pretty good treatment albeit on TV with Ioan Grffyd (sp?) as Horation Hornblower.

That said there's still a lot more they could cover from the books (with the telemovies covering the "Young Hornblower" era
 
The only thing I wish is that they stop being such PC nancies and actually make the Americans the bad guys *sighs*

It wasn't PC, it was a money decision. Having the Stars and Stripes hauled down after the movie hero thrashes the US frigate was not going to be good for the box office. At any rate, fighting the US was just a side note to the big war with France.

That brings up my main quibble with the M&C movie, though. Making the Constitution-copy frigate a French privateer made no sense, she would have been far too expensive to build, equip, man and operate for any private venture.

--Justin
 
Moreover, I'd love to see Horatio Hornblower get the M&C treatment.

Hornblower has had a pretty good treatment albeit on TV with Ioan Grffyd (sp?) as Horation Hornblower.

That said there's still a lot more they could cover from the books (with the telemovies covering the "Young Hornblower" era

True but the M&C books are so much better than Hornblower. I wouldn't object to big screen Hornblower, but more M&C first please!
 
True but the M&C books are so much better than Hornblower. I wouldn't object to big screen Hornblower, but more M&C first please!

I'll admit to only reading 1.2 of the M&C books so far but as it stands now I enjoyed Hornblower a lot more.
 
Have read the first ten and they are fab. Loved the movie and really hope this comes off as it would be so awesome. Crowe was fantastic as Audbrey and like Bethany as Dr, Mauritian. The battle sequences and the style of the first movie was exactly what I envisaged the movie would be like. Here's fingers crossed.
 
The only thing I wish is that they stop being such PC nancies and actually make the Americans the bad guys *sighs*

It wasn't PC, it was a money decision. Having the Stars and Stripes hauled down after the movie hero thrashes the US frigate was not going to be good for the box office. At any rate, fighting the US was just a side note to the big war with France.

--Justin

True but the fact is, it was a stupid move
 
Somehow I don't think the majority of the American audience are capable of wrapping their heads around the concept of Americans not being the heroes of every possible situation.

I recall one yank in particular saying 'La Amistad' wasn't a good film because it showed Britain being against slavery before America, which he considered "not historically accurate".

So for once, perhaps Hollywood isn't underestimating their audience.
 
^Yeah, the fact that America was allied with Napoleon isn't something they like to remember in their Social Studies classes.

In Canada, on the other hand, we love telling our kids how "we" (the British, really) beat those Yankees back where they belong. :)
 
Somehow I don't think the majority of the American audience are capable of wrapping their heads around the concept of Americans not being the heroes of every possible situation.

Ironically, we were in the right in this particular situation. The war of 1812 was fought over the kidnapping of Americans and their impressment into British service - sometimes even from American ships. This, combined with objections to Britain's interference with our trading rights as neutrals, primarily caused the war. (In one of the oddities of history, Britain acceded to America's demands several days before the outbreak of war, but the early 19th Century speed of communication didn't allow the message to reach us in time to avert war.)

As to the point regarding American audiences, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable rooting for the Union Jack against the Stars and Stripes, and I generally like seeing the Royal Navy cast as heroes.

^Yeah, the fact that America was allied with Napoleon isn't something they like to remember in their Social Studies classes.

To my knowledge, we were never allied with Napoleon except in the sense that we shared a common enemy. That said, he's generally viewed favorably here - consider that France was the most democratic major nation in Europe at the time, and was resisted by hereditary monarchs. We don't hold Bonaparte in the same esteem the French do, but he's usually considered an ambiguous figure at worst.

In Canada, on the other hand, we love telling our kids how "we" (the British, really) beat those Yankees back where they belong. :)
Our version of the history tends to be more along the lines of "We have met the enemy, and they are ours." ;)

Truly, only the naval battles (primarily those which we won), the defense of Baltimore, the burning of Washington, and the Battle of New Orleans tend to be mentioned in our classes on the history of the war. (Too, New England's ill-fated attempt at secession - their messenger arrived only just after news of both peace and the victory at New Orleans reach Washington - is sometimes made light of.)


I'm thrilled to see that there might be sequel to Master and Commander, after all. I'd almost given up hope. :)
 
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Somehow I don't think the majority of the American audience are capable of wrapping their heads around the concept of Americans not being the heroes of every possible situation.

I recall one yank in particular saying 'La Amistad' wasn't a good film because it showed Britain being against slavery before America, which he considered "not historically accurate".

So for once, perhaps Hollywood isn't underestimating their audience.

It's dumb. *sighs* Unfortunately our children learn history through what they see. It's hard to break them of that if they aren't interested and it's hard to make children interested in history.
 
Truly, only the naval battles (primarily those which we won), the defense of Baltimore, the burning of Washington, and the Battle of New Orleans tend to be mentioned in our classes on the history of the war. (Too, New England's ill-fated attempt at succession - their messenger arrived only just after news of both peace and the victory at New Orleans reach Washington - is sometimes made light of.)

Interesting. With the exception of the burning of Washington, we tend to learn more about things like General Sir Isaac Brock and Tecumseh, the Battle of Queenston Heights and Lundy's Lane, and the burning of York. Generally the defence of the Niagara Peninsula tends to get the most coverage.

Interesting how different the two perspectives on one war are.

(There's also, of course, the persistent mythologizing of this war in Canada. The way we talk about it, you'd think every Canadian personally marched down to Washington and burned the White House down themselves.)
 
And they have to bring Killick back, too! I don't care about Billy Boyd. I still say he was wrong, wrong, wrong for Bonden.
 
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