What happened to Nero after destroying the Kelvin

[JediKnightButler]

Don't know if somebody has brought this up before (and I if they did, I apologize in advance- I didn't see any threads) but what did Nero and his crew did during the 25 years between his destruction of the Kelvin and his subsequent re-emergence during the main storyline? Was there an explanation in the movie and I missed it or was it left unexplained? I heard rumors about a cut Klingon storyline but is there an official explanation by somebody? What about in the novelization?

 

[Jessop]

no explanation in the movie, but he was in a klingon prison.

 

[SalvorHardin]

The intention of the writers was to have Klingon ships decloak, surround the damaged Narada and take Nero and his crew as prisoners to Rura Penthe.

What survived in the movie from that is mentions by Uhura and Kirk about the distress call from a Klingon prison regarding a huge Romulan ship.

From a report on the scenes cut from the movie :

The opening sequence, which sees the destruction of the USS Kelvin at the hands of Nero and his mining ship the Narada, has an extra bit we didn't see. While the Narada is trying to recover from being rammed by the Kelvin, bunches of Klingon warbirds decloak and surround it. This leads to a major subplot entirely removed from the final film.

Next we go the Rura Penthe Klingon Prison Asteroid where Nero and his crew are being held. The Klingons catch someone trying to smuggle Federation maps to him. The Klingons begin to interrogate Nero, during which we learn that he has been there for ten years and hasn't said a word that whole time. The Klingons have a notebook of his that is full of drawings and calculations relating to Spock and his Jellyfish ship. They decide to use that slug thing we saw Nero using on Captain Pike in the finished film. Apparently they hate being in the dark and will claw their way out of any dark place they're put, which makes them kind of bad to have in your gut. Nero tries to deal with this torture by focusing on memories of his late pregnant wife. A few scenes later, we see that Nero is so bad ass that he put up with torture just because he had time to kill until Spock finally arrived in the Jellyfish ship. When the time is right Nero busts out with ease.

 

[EnsignRicky]

He went to Disneyland.

 

[M'Sharak]

Don't know if somebody has brought this up before (and I if they did, I apologize in advance- I didn't see any threads) but what did Nero and his crew did during the 25 years between his destruction of the Kelvin and his subsequent re-emergence during the main storyline? Was there an explanation in the movie and I missed it or was it left unexplained? I heard rumors about a cut Klingon storyline but is there an official explanation by somebody? What about in the novelization?

In addition to the replies already given in this thread, you might want to have a look at this (older) one:

Where did Nero / the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

 

[trampledamage]

It's a pity that part of the story didn't make it into the movie, because I love how they changed Nero's appearance between the attack on the Kelvin and 25 years later. The points on his ears have been cut off, and it looks like he's had to have half his skull re-attached too. He has definitely suffered.

 

[Jeri]

I feel sorry for Nero, too.

 

[HIj'Qa]

IDW comics is telling the story of Nero's 25 missing years starting next month.

 

[Falcor5]

IDW comics is telling the story of Nero's 25 missing years starting next month.

I honestly am getting a little sick of having to read comics to get the whole story to this movie. I really wish they had put these scenes in the movie instead of making people read comics to get the whole story. Oh well maybe on DVD.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

IDW comics is telling the story of Nero's 25 missing years starting next month.

I honestly am getting a little sick of having to read comics to get the whole story to this movie. I really wish they had put these scenes in the movie instead of making people read comics to get the whole story. Oh well maybe on DVD.

The whole story IS in the movie. What you're getting from those comics are side stories, diversions and all kinds of stuff that didn't belong in the narrative.

 

[trampledamage]

IDW comics is telling the story of Nero's 25 missing years starting next month.

I honestly am getting a little sick of having to read comics to get the whole story to this movie. I really wish they had put these scenes in the movie instead of making people read comics to get the whole story. Oh well maybe on DVD.

The whole story IS in the movie. What you're getting from those comics are side stories, diversions and all kinds of stuff that didn't belong in the narrative.

Exactly. For people who want to know the details of where Nero was, there are the comics. But the movie is whole as it is. There is mystery about where Nero could have been, and what could have happened to him - all we do know is that during his obvious suffering, he has held true to the one idea - find Spock and get his revenge.

There's a limit to how much detail can be put in a movie, so there are always avenues left unexplored. The comics provide those explorations, if you want them.

 

[Falcor5]

I honestly am getting a little sick of having to read comics to get the whole story to this movie. I really wish they had put these scenes in the movie instead of making people read comics to get the whole story. Oh well maybe on DVD.

The whole story IS in the movie. What you're getting from those comics are side stories, diversions and all kinds of stuff that didn't belong in the narrative.

Exactly. For people who want to know the details of where Nero was, there are the comics. But the movie is whole as it is. There is mystery about where Nero could have been, and what could have happened to him - all we do know is that during his obvious suffering, he has held true to the one idea - find Spock and get his revenge.

There's a limit to how much detail can be put in a movie, so there are always avenues left unexplored. The comics provide those explorations, if you want them.

Well what Nero did for 25 years was not really well explained in the movie at all (which was the whole reason this thread was created by the OP). Its sad the scenes were cut that showed some of what happened during those years. Thats why I said in my previous post I hope it shows up on the DVD. Maybe in a directors cut?

 

[Peter the Younger]

The whole story IS in the movie. What you're getting from those comics are side stories, diversions and all kinds of stuff that didn't belong in the narrative.

Exactly. For people who want to know the details of where Nero was, there are the comics. But the movie is whole as it is. There is mystery about where Nero could have been, and what could have happened to him - all we do know is that during his obvious suffering, he has held true to the one idea - find Spock and get his revenge.

There's a limit to how much detail can be put in a movie, so there are always avenues left unexplored. The comics provide those explorations, if you want them.

Well what Nero did for 25 years was not really well explained in the movie at all (which was the whole reason this thread was created by the OP). Its sad the scenes were cut that showed some of what happened during those years. Thats why I said in my previous post I hope it shows up on the DVD. Maybe in a directors cut?

This is one of the ways books are superior to movies, frankly. There just isn't enough time in two plus hours to explore all the loose threads and sub-plots.

 

[Nomad8324]

Exactly. For people who want to know the details of where Nero was, there are the comics. But the movie is whole as it is. There is mystery about where Nero could have been, and what could have happened to him - all we do know is that during his obvious suffering, he has held true to the one idea - find Spock and get his revenge.

There's a limit to how much detail can be put in a movie, so there are always avenues left unexplored. The comics provide those explorations, if you want them.

Well what Nero did for 25 years was not really well explained in the movie at all (which was the whole reason this thread was created by the OP). Its sad the scenes were cut that showed some of what happened during those years. Thats why I said in my previous post I hope it shows up on the DVD. Maybe in a directors cut?

This is one of the ways books are superior to movies, frankly. There just isn't enough time in two plus hours to explore all the loose threads and sub-plots.

Exactly!

Unless you want to sit through a documentary for a movie.

 

[cooleddie74]

What happened to Nero?

The 70s happened to Nero, man. A near-overdose on bell bottoms, coke and platforms shoes with goldfish in the stacks, man.

Ugly.

Ugly times.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I honestly am getting a little sick of having to read comics to get the whole story to this movie. I really wish they had put these scenes in the movie instead of making people read comics to get the whole story. Oh well maybe on DVD.

They're not making anyone do anything!

The movie did not need to be half an hour longer, which is what it probably would have needed to tell us the background of Nero and how he wasted his 25 years in a Klingon prison.

And for those of us who like reading and collecting Star Trek comics and novels, we appreciate being able to read more about the characters that a two-hour movie didn't have time to do. (Such as Kirk's ex-wife dying in ST:TMP, and Saavik's friendship with Peter Preston in ST II, and Carol Marcus visiting Jedda's family in ST IV. Check out those novelizations!)

There will be bonus scenes on the DVD, but I don't think they're intending on splicing back the Klingon prison stuff back into the movie. (Although Peter Jackson deliberately exploited the possibilities of lengthening his three "Lord of the Rings" movies to create extended editions. I guess you complained about having to buy thoses DVDs twice?)

 

[Falcor5]

What happened to Nero?

The 70s happened to Nero, man. A near-overdose on bell bottoms, coke and platforms shoes with goldfish in the stacks, man.

Ugly.

Ugly times.

HA

 

[DrEvil]

The intention of the writers was to have Klingon ships decloak, surround the damaged Narada and take Nero and his crew as prisoners to Rura Penthe.

What survived in the movie from that is mentions by Uhura and Kirk about the distress call from a Klingon prison regarding a huge Romulan ship.

From a report on the scenes cut from the movie :

The opening sequence, which sees the destruction of the USS Kelvin at the hands of Nero and his mining ship the Narada, has an extra bit we didn't see. While the Narada is trying to recover from being rammed by the Kelvin, bunches of Klingon warbirds decloak and surround it. This leads to a major subplot entirely removed from the final film.

Next we go the Rura Penthe Klingon Prison Asteroid where Nero and his crew are being held. The Klingons catch someone trying to smuggle Federation maps to him. The Klingons begin to interrogate Nero, during which we learn that he has been there for ten years and hasn't said a word that whole time. The Klingons have a notebook of his that is full of drawings and calculations relating to Spock and his Jellyfish ship. They decide to use that slug thing we saw Nero using on Captain Pike in the finished film. Apparently they hate being in the dark and will claw their way out of any dark place they're put, which makes them kind of bad to have in your gut. Nero tries to deal with this torture by focusing on memories of his late pregnant wife. A few scenes later, we see that Nero is so bad ass that he put up with torture just because he had time to kill until Spock finally arrived in the Jellyfish ship. When the time is right Nero busts out with ease.

Ok, that explains what happened to Nero, but what about the Narada? You're going to tell me the Klingons didn't try to exploit the future technology and just let it float away? Where did it go? How did Nero get back? Yes, I'm going to buy the comics....

 

[SalvorHardin]

The intention of the writers was to have Klingon ships decloak, surround the damaged Narada and take Nero and his crew as prisoners to Rura Penthe.

What survived in the movie from that is mentions by Uhura and Kirk about the distress call from a Klingon prison regarding a huge Romulan ship.

From a report on the scenes cut from the movie :

The opening sequence, which sees the destruction of the USS Kelvin at the hands of Nero and his mining ship the Narada, has an extra bit we didn't see. While the Narada is trying to recover from being rammed by the Kelvin, bunches of Klingon warbirds decloak and surround it. This leads to a major subplot entirely removed from the final film.

Next we go the Rura Penthe Klingon Prison Asteroid where Nero and his crew are being held. The Klingons catch someone trying to smuggle Federation maps to him. The Klingons begin to interrogate Nero, during which we learn that he has been there for ten years and hasn't said a word that whole time. The Klingons have a notebook of his that is full of drawings and calculations relating to Spock and his Jellyfish ship. They decide to use that slug thing we saw Nero using on Captain Pike in the finished film. Apparently they hate being in the dark and will claw their way out of any dark place they're put, which makes them kind of bad to have in your gut. Nero tries to deal with this torture by focusing on memories of his late pregnant wife. A few scenes later, we see that Nero is so bad ass that he put up with torture just because he had time to kill until Spock finally arrived in the Jellyfish ship. When the time is right Nero busts out with ease.

Ok, that explains what happened to Nero, but what about the Narada? You're going to tell me the Klingons didn't try to exploit the future technology and just let it float away? Where did it go? How did Nero get back? Yes, I'm going to buy the comics....

Those are fine questions but there's so much you can cover in 2 hours... That's where fan imagination, follow-up books and comics come in.

In another thread I assumed this. Now, I'm no writer so be gentle.

I was thinking another scenario.

The Kelvin rams the Narada. That obviously damaged it badly. Bad enough for the Klingons to be able to capture Nero and crew with no problems.

Maybe the Narada was so screwed that the Klingons didn't bother claiming it or couldn't and just left it there to rot. Since as we know from the Countdown comics the Narada was a Borg-Romulan hybrid, it slowly repaired itself while Nero was in jail.

So Nero and crew escape, take over a shuttle or a prison ship , travel back to a now fully repaired Narada and then destroy the 47 Klingon ships for all they put him through.