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Majority of tie-in literature bad?

@Jbarney

Yeah Christopher answered the points somewhat, but its a pity part of the post was deleted, because one of the things I asked was whether the politics of the Star Trek galaxy have become a bit unrealistic - with some species being artificially maintained as antagonists, just because they are 'cool enemies'.

Depending on whether you are a Roddenbury-type optimist or not, certain major powers should perhaps have joined the Federation by now, but are instead portrayed as monolithically nationalist or militaristic.

Although it serves as good old-fashion cold war style war fiction - if you want gritty Trek, a more relevent metaphor for the modern world, might be a more interconnected local galaxy, with problems like political curruption, nationalism, human trafficing, etc, etc.
 
SpaceLama, feel free to ask your questions about works and ideas already written, just please leave out the 'why don't we do it this way' or 'wouldn't it be logical to do this' type of statements.
 
@Jbarney

Yeah Christopher answered the points somewhat, but its a pity part of the post was deleted, because one of the things I asked was whether the politics of the Star Trek galaxy have become a bit unrealistic - with some species being artificially maintained as antagonists, just because they are 'cool enemies'.

Depending on whether you are a Roddenbury-type optimist or not, certain major powers should perhaps have joined the Federation by now, but are instead portrayed as monolithically nationalist or militaristic.

Although it serves as good old-fashion cold war style war fiction - if you want gritty Trek, a more relevent metaphor for the modern world, might be a more interconnected local galaxy, with problems like political curruption, nationalism, human trafficing, etc, etc.

You really, really have to read the post-Destiny books! ;)
 
@Jbarney

Yeah Christopher answered the points somewhat, but its a pity part of the post was deleted, because one of the things I asked was whether the politics of the Star Trek galaxy have become a bit unrealistic - with some species being artificially maintained as antagonists, just because they are 'cool enemies'.

Depending on whether you are a Roddenbury-type optimist or not, certain major powers should perhaps have joined the Federation by now, but are instead portrayed as monolithically nationalist or militaristic.

Although it serves as good old-fashion cold war style war fiction - if you want gritty Trek, a more relevent metaphor for the modern world, might be a more interconnected local galaxy, with problems like political curruption, nationalism, human trafficing, etc, etc.

You really, really have to read the post-Destiny books! ;)

One of the things I have heard from synopsis, etc, is that...

...an anti-Federation alliance is formed.

I hope that this isnt another Axis vs. Allies or NATO vs. Warsaw Pact metaphor - because, although it would make for interesting fanwank - it has been done numerous times in Trek, with the Federation/Klingon cold war(s), Dominion War, etc.

A more socially relevent 'enemy' that reflects the modern world, might be exploitation, crime, nationalism, etc. If they are building up another 'showdown' however, that smacks of Star 'Wars' rather than Star Trek.
 
@Jbarney

Yeah Christopher answered the points somewhat, but its a pity part of the post was deleted, because one of the things I asked was whether the politics of the Star Trek galaxy have become a bit unrealistic - with some species being artificially maintained as antagonists, just because they are 'cool enemies'.

Depending on whether you are a Roddenbury-type optimist or not, certain major powers should perhaps have joined the Federation by now, but are instead portrayed as monolithically nationalist or militaristic.

Although it serves as good old-fashion cold war style war fiction - if you want gritty Trek, a more relevent metaphor for the modern world, might be a more interconnected local galaxy, with problems like political curruption, nationalism, human trafficing, etc, etc.

You really, really have to read the post-Destiny books! ;)

One of the things I have heard from synopsis, etc, is that...

...an anti-Federation alliance is formed.

I hope that this isnt another Axis vs. Allies or NATO vs. Warsaw Pact metaphor - because, although it would make for interesting fanwank - it has been done numerous times in Trek, with the Federation/Klingon cold war(s), Dominion War, etc.

A more socially relevent 'enemy' that reflects the modern world, might be exploitation, crime, nationalism, etc. If they are building up another 'showdown' however, that smacks of Star 'Wars' rather than Star Trek.

The Typhon Pact is not Anti-Federation. It is a rival power, and tensions are high, but it is not overtly hostile. Two of the six members have reasonably good relations with the Federation. One wants to give the Federation a hard time (or at least their dominant political faction does), but overall they are uniting for their mutual benefit and to gain more status in interstellar affairs (a new superpower), not to spite the Federation. This is exactly the interconnected galaxy you were asking for. Also, the Federation and Klingon Empire have responded by expanding their own alliance to include at least two other nations, possibly four.
 
Although I have been very entertained by Trek books over the years, I can't help but feel sometimes that 'art' has been sacrificed. Art acts as a sorta 'lens of truth' - the best art shows universal truths about how humans live - art that imposes a certain view is propaganda, not art - and art without the lens, is temporary entertainment.

I grew up loving Star Trek - although some might say bouncing literary quotes around on the bridge of the Enterprise was pretentious - for a young kid, that sorta thing was very educational and inspiring. So, although obviously not all Trek stuff has to be dead serious, I wouldnt mind seeing more in the way of 'lens' Trek.

Around the time of Enteprise, I became disatisfied with the way Trek was going - I never thought I would ever abandon it - but I simply stopped being interested - which is why I didn't care when we started hearing Trek XI would be a reboot - something that would have once horrified me.

The reboot to me, was an opperunity to bring screen Trek closer to literary sci-fi - I dunno if that is gonna happen, since the movie was basically an action romp - but another place where Trek can be adventurous is in books.
 
You really, really have to read the post-Destiny books! ;)

One of the things I have heard from synopsis, etc, is that...

...an anti-Federation alliance is formed.

I hope that this isnt another Axis vs. Allies or NATO vs. Warsaw Pact metaphor - because, although it would make for interesting fanwank - it has been done numerous times in Trek, with the Federation/Klingon cold war(s), Dominion War, etc.

A more socially relevent 'enemy' that reflects the modern world, might be exploitation, crime, nationalism, etc. If they are building up another 'showdown' however, that smacks of Star 'Wars' rather than Star Trek.

The Typhon Pact is not Anti-Federation. It is a rival power, and tensions are high, but it is not overtly hostile. Two of the six members have reasonably good relations with the Federation. One wants to give the Federation a hard time (or at least their dominant political faction does), but overall they are uniting for their mutual benefit and to gain more status in interstellar affairs (a new superpower), not to spite the Federation. This is exactly the interconnected galaxy you were asking for. Also, the Federation and Klingon Empire have responded by expanding their own alliance to include at least two other nations, possibly four.

Post Destiny is starting to interest me more and more, thankyou.

I am just a little afraid of being disappointed - but I think ill give it a go anyway.

Vanguard for example, disappointed me.

While we are at it, what do you think of Titan (within the context of what we have been discussing)?
 
@Jbarney

Yeah Christopher answered the points somewhat, but its a pity part of the post was deleted, because one of the things I asked was whether the politics of the Star Trek galaxy have become a bit unrealistic - with some species being artificially maintained as antagonists, just because they are 'cool enemies'.

And as I said, that's a profoundly false assumption. Claiming that the Klingons have been maintained as unchanging antagonists is bizarre given that they've been depicted as Federation allies since TNG premiered in 1987, with the exception of a 2-year span in DS9. And as I also pointed out, the Romulans have not been depicted as unchanging antagonists either, especially not in the recent books which you haven't read yet. So the premise of your question is absolutely false. Even beyond the Klingons and Romulans, since the end of DS9 there have been major changes in the Cardassians, the Ferengi, and the Dominion. And next year's Typhon Pact novel series is all about exploring the major transformations that are taking place in Alpha/Beta Quadrant politics in the wake of Destiny.


Depending on whether you are a Roddenbury-type optimist or not, certain major powers should perhaps have joined the Federation by now, but are instead portrayed as monolithically nationalist or militaristic.

Why are you assuming that the only two possibilities are Federation membership and unyielding enmity? Isn't that in itself a profoundly unrealistic assumption about politics? States can be allied with the Federation without having to be assimilated into it. If anything, a true optimist would embrace the notion of cultures retaining their independent identity while still maintaining friendly relationships. The idea that every state has to be either absorbed into the Federation or treated as an enemy is frankly alarming. That's the attitude of a conquering power like the Dominion. There's nothing optimistic about manifest destiny.

Although it serves as good old-fashion cold war style war fiction - if you want gritty Trek, a more relevent metaphor for the modern world, might be a more interconnected local galaxy, with problems like political curruption, nationalism, human trafficing, etc, etc.

The local galaxy in the novels is becoming extremely interconnected. Political corruption in the Federation was explored extensively in A Time to Kill/A Time to Heal, and we've seen a fair amount of political corruption in the Klingon Empire in Keith DeCandido's books. Nationalism has come up in the past in books like Spock's World and Myriad Universes: A Less Perfect Union, and I would expect it to play a role in Typhon Pact. As for human trafficking, I assume you're not speaking literally in terms of humans to the exclusion of other species. In broader terms, there are the issues of holographic rights raised (however awkwardly) in Voyager fiction and the issues of android rights raised with regard to Data and his "family" in TNG; and arguably Borg assimilation is the ultimate metaphor for slavery and exploitation.


Basically, the bottom line is that you're making your case from the position of someone who hasn't read a lot of the recent fiction and is unaware that it already has just about everything you're looking for. Just goes to show that you should get the facts before you jump to conclusions.
 
One of the things I have heard from synopsis, etc, is that...

...an anti-Federation alliance is formed.

I hope that this isnt another Axis vs. Allies or NATO vs. Warsaw Pact metaphor - because, although it would make for interesting fanwank - it has been done numerous times in Trek, with the Federation/Klingon cold war(s), Dominion War, etc.

A more socially relevent 'enemy' that reflects the modern world, might be exploitation, crime, nationalism, etc. If they are building up another 'showdown' however, that smacks of Star 'Wars' rather than Star Trek.

The Typhon Pact is not Anti-Federation. It is a rival power, and tensions are high, but it is not overtly hostile. Two of the six members have reasonably good relations with the Federation. One wants to give the Federation a hard time (or at least their dominant political faction does), but overall they are uniting for their mutual benefit and to gain more status in interstellar affairs (a new superpower), not to spite the Federation. This is exactly the interconnected galaxy you were asking for. Also, the Federation and Klingon Empire have responded by expanding their own alliance to include at least two other nations, possibly four.

Post Destiny is starting to interest me more and more, thankyou.

I am just a little afraid of being disappointed - but I think ill give it a go anyway.

While we are at it, what do you think of Titan (within the context of what we have been discussing)?

I'm glad your interest is perked! :)

As for "Titan", it is an interesting take on internal Federation politics and relations between member cultures, in the context of their segregation or co-operation. A major premise of "Titan" is various member races and cultures (plus some representatives from non-member cultures) testing the strength of their bonds by attempting to truly work together. "Titan" represents a project to truly realize the ideals of the Federation by having all members working together on the same ships, rather than remaining segregated. Making this work is an important on-going subplot behind each book's core adventure.
 
Kind of curious why this thread has such an inflammatory title, when that doesn't really seem to represent the OP's concerns.

Around the time of Enteprise, I became disatisfied with the way Trek was going - I never thought I would ever abandon it - but I simply stopped being interested

There are episodes of Voyager and Enterprise that I still haven't bothered to watch yet. I've been a Star Trek fan since the early '70s, and the thought that I might just not get around to watching a Trek episode would have been unimaginable for quite a few years of my life. But I didn't stop reading the books, because there was more interesting storytelling going on there.

- which is why I didn't care when we started hearing Trek XI would be a reboot - something that would have once horrified me.

The reboot to me, was an opperunity to bring screen Trek closer to literary sci-fi - I dunno if that is gonna happen, since the movie was basically an action romp - but another place where Trek can be adventurous is in books.
There's no way that movies are going to bring Star Trek closer to lit SF. It's just not economically feasible. The movies have to be big and actiony to get the kind of audience that makes up for the cost of doing a big special effects-heavy space opera. The episodes of the various TV series have always been more likely to go in the literary direction. See, for example, DS9's "The Visitor." For that reason, I prefer Trek on TV to Trek movies.

But the books have been the home of the most adventurous Trek storytelling for the last decade. There's the DS9 relaunch, which carries on the complex and ever-changing mesh of characters and politics that the TV series did so well. There's The Lost Era, a set of damn near epic standalone novels set between the original series and TNG. There's SCE, a series that looks like a bunch of short techie problem-solving stories that's actually strongly character-driven, with a lot of drama arising from what happens to the characters and how they react. And Vanguard, though you don't like it, takes a look at the TOS era from a different angle, telling an all-new story but occasionally using it to look at the context in which certain key TOS episodes occurred. And on and on.

And with no new Trek on TV, and the new movie establishing an alternate continuity, the books have more freedom to explore and change things than they've ever had. Without reset buttons, without massive worldchanging events (Invasion, Genesis Wave, etc) that never really seem to produce lasting changes. Destiny's not one of those gimmicky crossover series we used to get a few years ago. We've already seen some of the consequences, and we know we'll be seeing more over the next year or two, at least.
 
And as I said, that's a profoundly false assumption. Claiming that the Klingons have been maintained as unchanging antagonists is bizarre given that they've been depicted as Federation allies since TNG premiered in 1987, with the exception of a 2-year span in DS9. And as I also pointed out, the Romulans have not been depicted as unchanging antagonists either, especially not in the recent books which you haven't read yet. So the premise of your question is absolutely false. Even beyond the Klingons and Romulans, since the end of DS9 there have been major changes in the Cardassians, the Ferengi, and the Dominion. And next year's Typhon Pact novel series is all about exploring the major transformations that are taking place in Alpha/Beta Quadrant politics in the wake of Destiny.

I am glad to hear that.

Please understand that when I speak of certain species being maintained as antagonists, I mean that for example, everytime there is threat of a coup of Qo'noS (like in the Trek games too, which are part of the beta canon like Pocket Books), it seems to lead to xenophobes being in a position to take power, or some anti-Federation polemicist finding mass support in the Empire. In the new Trek MMO, which is tying itself into the Pocket Books canon, the Klingons have once again had a breakdown in relations with the Federation.

Why are you assuming that the only two possibilities are Federation membership and unyielding enmity? Isn't that in itself a profoundly unrealistic assumption about politics? States can be allied with the Federation without having to be assimilated into it. If anything, a true optimist would embrace the notion of cultures retaining their independent identity while still maintaining friendly relationships. The idea that every state has to be either absorbed into the Federation or treated as an enemy is frankly alarming. That's the attitude of a conquering power like the Dominion. There's nothing optimistic about manifest destiny.

Cultural differences are perfectly normal. But the Federation does not dismantle nations - it does not supress ethnic divisions - rationally speaking, I am suprised there are not liberal Klingons who have a 'join the Federation' movement - surely not every Klingon is obsessed with borders on a map - surely some part of any culture seeks greater social justice? (Kahless was egalitarian in his own way).

I am not suggesting that the Federation gobble up everything - rather I am suggesting that perhaps some cultures in Star Trek be less adamantly against it. Maybe this has changed in recent novels - but the amount of potential xenophobic coups in the past, doesnt show the Klingons in a very good light.

As for human trafficking, I assume you're not speaking literally in terms of humans to the exclusion of other species. In broader terms, there are the issues of holographic rights raised (however awkwardly) in Voyager fiction and the issues of android rights raised with regard to Data and his "family" in TNG; and arguably Borg assimilation is the ultimate metaphor for slavery and exploitation.

Yeah, human(oid) trafficing. In the 21st century, the European Union and United States, cannot control the flow of people sold into slavery, as sex workers, etc. Films like 'Sancho the Bailiff' are as relevent today as they would have been to Haien period Japan. Abstract metaphors like the borg are okay, but they don't show the emotional side of being a slave very well, since drones have no emotion.

Basically, the bottom line is that you're making your case from the position of someone who hasn't read a lot of the recent fiction and is unaware that it already has just about everything you're looking for. Just goes to show that you should get the facts before you jump to conclusions.

Christopher, it is surely understandable that I formed some impressions, afterall, I had been reading Pocket Books Trek stuff for years, and these developments you speak of have only recently happened - I can only form an opinion on the evidence I am presented with.

As it happens, some posts here have interested me in the recent novels - and I now intend to check them out :techman:
 
Kind of curious why this thread has such an inflammatory title, when that doesn't really seem to represent the OP's concerns.

Around the time of Enteprise, I became disatisfied with the way Trek was going - I never thought I would ever abandon it - but I simply stopped being interested

There are episodes of Voyager and Enterprise that I still haven't bothered to watch yet. I've been a Star Trek fan since the early '70s, and the thought that I might just not get around to watching a Trek episode would have been unimaginable for quite a few years of my life. But I didn't stop reading the books, because there was more interesting storytelling going on there.

- which is why I didn't care when we started hearing Trek XI would be a reboot - something that would have once horrified me.

The reboot to me, was an opperunity to bring screen Trek closer to literary sci-fi - I dunno if that is gonna happen, since the movie was basically an action romp - but another place where Trek can be adventurous is in books.
There's no way that movies are going to bring Star Trek closer to lit SF. It's just not economically feasible. The movies have to be big and actiony to get the kind of audience that makes up for the cost of doing a big special effects-heavy space opera. The episodes of the various TV series have always been more likely to go in the literary direction. See, for example, DS9's "The Visitor." For that reason, I prefer Trek on TV to Trek movies.

But the books have been the home of the most adventurous Trek storytelling for the last decade. There's the DS9 relaunch, which carries on the complex and ever-changing mesh of characters and politics that the TV series did so well. There's The Lost Era, a set of damn near epic standalone novels set between the original series and TNG. There's SCE, a series that looks like a bunch of short techie problem-solving stories that's actually strongly character-driven, with a lot of drama arising from what happens to the characters and how they react. And Vanguard, though you don't like it, takes a look at the TOS era from a different angle, telling an all-new story but occasionally using it to look at the context in which certain key TOS episodes occurred. And on and on.

And with no new Trek on TV, and the new movie establishing an alternate continuity, the books have more freedom to explore and change things than they've ever had. Without reset buttons, without massive worldchanging events (Invasion, Genesis Wave, etc) that never really seem to produce lasting changes. Destiny's not one of those gimmicky crossover series we used to get a few years ago. We've already seen some of the consequences, and we know we'll be seeing more over the next year or two, at least.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote there.

I also think that Trek is better in serial Tv format than movies - it can be brought closer to lit that way.

I was hoping that maybe the new movies would lead to a new series in the rebooted Trekverse - but I dont think thats their priority.

The movies dont seem to be an attempt to revitalise Trek as a TV franchise, but only as a cinematic one - I don't think they will be re-using the sets for a new series, or anything like that.

I quite liked J Michael Stratzynski's proposed new Trek series, where he suggested bringing in current science fiction authors to write episodes, but I dont see it happening.
 
The Typhon Pact is not Anti-Federation. It is a rival power, and tensions are high, but it is not overtly hostile. Two of the six members have reasonably good relations with the Federation. One wants to give the Federation a hard time (or at least their dominant political faction does), but overall they are uniting for their mutual benefit and to gain more status in interstellar affairs (a new superpower), not to spite the Federation. This is exactly the interconnected galaxy you were asking for. Also, the Federation and Klingon Empire have responded by expanding their own alliance to include at least two other nations, possibly four.

Post Destiny is starting to interest me more and more, thankyou.

I am just a little afraid of being disappointed - but I think ill give it a go anyway.

While we are at it, what do you think of Titan (within the context of what we have been discussing)?

I'm glad your interest is perked! :)

As for "Titan", it is an interesting take on internal Federation politics and relations between member cultures, in the context of their segregation or co-operation. A major premise of "Titan" is various member races and cultures (plus some representatives from non-member cultures) testing the strength of their bonds by attempting to truly work together. "Titan" represents a project to truly realize the ideals of the Federation by having all members working together on the same ships, rather than remaining segregated. Making this work is an important on-going subplot behind each book's core adventure.

I like the idea of a more diverse crew, representing the Federation :)
 
I think some people over reacted to what I said.
Imagine that. People reacting negatively to someone whose very first post to a tie-in board is titled "Majority of tie-in fiction bad," and who then goes on to explain that he hasn't even read the books he's slamming.

Its just my opinion. If you find any truth to it, hopefully it was constructive. If not, please disregard it.
As you wish. Welcome to the ignore filter.
 
I am just a human being, suffering from the hedgehog's dilemma, like yourself.

Way to have understanding, compassion and respect.

Also note the question mark in the title.
 
The majority of tie-in literature is bad?

I don't think so. It's open to opinion of course, and each story has to be taken on its own merit. In terms of writing and depth of thought, there is a level of consistency now on Trek Lit that has to be applauded. I don't actually like a lot of Modern Trek Lit, but I am ready to admit that the authors bend over backwards to give readers an entertaining ride.

I think that is the same in a lot of tie-in literature. Audiences are far more discriminating now, and simply won't accept half-hearted efforts.

However there is a subset of tie-in literature that I feel really has gone to the dogs in recent years, the adaptation. I can't remember the last time I read a decent movie or episode adaptation. I don't know whether it has to do with the time that authors get to write it, the materials they are given to work with, or restrictions from the studios, but I often feel that they may as well just print out a copy of the script and publish that. Gone are the days when authors could expand the story, create back story, add subplots, and just colour the world in. I really miss that. I remember buying the novelisation for STV and loving it. Of course I had things arse backwards, and wound up being disappointed in the cinema afterwards. Years later, after watching Insurrection, I raced to the bookstore and snapped up a copy, and nothing. It was just the movie in print form.

Nowadays pretty much all the novelisations are like that, across the board, not just Star Trek.
 
Sounds like things have really improved.

As Steve said best, Trek used to have:

"gimmicky crossover series we used to get a few years ago"

I.E. all the TV crews uniting to save the universe, etc :)
 
Please understand that when I speak of certain species being maintained as antagonists, I mean that for example, everytime there is threat of a coup of Qo'noS (like in the Trek games too, which are part of the beta canon like Pocket Books), it seems to lead to xenophobes being in a position to take power, or some anti-Federation polemicist finding mass support in the Empire. In the new Trek MMO, which is tying itself into the Pocket Books canon, the Klingons have once again had a breakdown in relations with the Federation.

There's no such thing as "beta canon" here. That's a term from Star Wars tie-in fiction and reflects the arcane and convoluted policies that Lucasfilm has developed for categorizing its tie-ins. It's completely erroneous to assume the same set of policies applies to Trek tie-in fiction. In Trek, there is the canon (onscreen material) and everything else. Period. Tie-in works are obligated to remain consistent with screen canon, but are not obligated to be consistent with one another. Often, continuity does exist within tie-in material as a matter of authorial and editorial choice, but it is not the default position. The continuity that currently exists within the literature is purely a function of the literature. Other tie-ins, such as the comics and the MMORPG, are independent projects, and their creative choices cannot be assumed to reflect upon the choices of the novel authors and editors.

So you're misinformed about the relationship between Star Trek Online and Trek Lit. It's true that ST:O has borrowed some ideas from Trek Lit (primarily with regard to Romulan politics) as part of its backstory, but it's also blatantly contradicted the Trek Lit continuity in a number of ways (particularly where DS9 continuity is concerned), and it's completely incompatible with the events of Destiny and subsequent books. ST:O and Trek Lit represent two extremely different continuities.

To borrow an argument I heard Dave Mack make at the NY Comic-Con a while back, the novels and the ST Online game have different sets of storytelling needs which lead them in different directions. ST:O is reverting to a state of enmity between the UFP and the Klingons because as a game, it will tend to be driven by action, combat, and fairly straightforward us-vs.-them scenarios. The storytelling needs of prose fiction are entirely different, and there's more room there for a more involved exploration of subtler political dynamics. If anything, straightforward combat doesn't work as well in prose as it does in visual media, so it's in the best interest of the books to embrace more nuanced political situations.

As far as the UFP-Klingon relationship stands in the novels, it's stronger than ever in the wake of Destiny. You really need to stop making uninformed assumptions and just read the books.


I am not suggesting that the Federation gobble up everything - rather I am suggesting that perhaps some cultures in Star Trek be less adamantly against it. Maybe this has changed in recent novels - but the amount of potential xenophobic coups in the past, doesnt show the Klingons in a very good light.

Again -- you need to read the books.


Yeah, human(oid) trafficing. In the 21st century, the European Union and United States, cannot control the flow of people sold into slavery, as sex workers, etc. Films like 'Sancho the Bailiff' are as relevent today as they would have been to Haien period Japan. Abstract metaphors like the borg are okay, but they don't show the emotional side of being a slave very well, since drones have no emotion.

A number of Trek books over the decades have dealt with slavery, and I'm sure others will in the future.



I quite liked J Michael Stratzynski's proposed new Trek series, where he suggested bringing in current science fiction authors to write episodes, but I dont see it happening.

In the final season of Enterprise, Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens, wo have written a number of original science fiction works as well as Trek novels and comics, were brought aboard as story editors.

However, the Reeves-Stevenses also had extensive experience as television producers. Writing prose and writing television are very different disciplines, and not many people are skilled at both. That's why you don't see a lot of novelists -- SF or otherwise -- working in television. (There's a lot more crossover between comics writers and TV writers these days, because they're more similar disciplines, both of them more visual and less internalized than prose.)

As for Straczynski, he tried to get prose authors to contribute to Babylon 5, and he had some limited success (David Gerrold, Harlan Ellison, Neil Gaiman), but overall he ended up writing virtually the entire series by himself. So it's questionable whether he really lived up to his own stated goals.
 
Interesting - you are probably right about B5, looking at it that way.

I guess in screen terms, I wouldnt mind seeing how a more 'neo-realist' Trek series could be.

Thats kinda what Battlestar recently attempted, with some sucess.

Christopher, what do you think about the prospects of a new Trek series based on the new film continuity? I have heard the license for Trek TV is now owned by a seperate company than the movie license.
 
The buzz seems to be that CBS has a handshake deal with Abrams to hold off on a new series until after the second Abrams movie. Beyond that, I don't care to speculate, and this isn't the forum for it anyway.
 
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