What should have happened at the end of Generations

[Gorn Captain]

Phaser to the back...no good.
Bridge on the captain...no good. Oh my.

I think a really cool, open ended way to wrap up JTK and still leave the door open would be if Kirk helped Picard defeat Soran, and Picard thanks Kirk, and is ruminating on how many lives they have saved, looking off into the horizon, and he turns to look at Kirk, and Kirk has vanished.

A Twilight Zone was he there, was he never there, is he alive or not mystery.

 

[Broccoli]

Only if the last frame of the movie has Shatner turning to the camera and going "Th-th-th-That's All Folks!"

 

[Lookingglassman]

I think the whole ending was stupid. Riker and co are all dead and Shatner and Picard are still stuck in the nexus in my opinion.

Okay, Picard and Soren got sucked into the nexus then the enterprise d is destroyed on the planet.

Picard hooks up with Kirk and they ride off to stop Soren. In my opinion the final battle where kirk "dies" still takes place in the Nexus, only this is Picard's fantasy to stop soren or whatever his name is.

In reality the planet is still destroyed, Riker, Data, Troi, Worf etc are still dead. If not how did they manage to exit the nexus which is in the middle of interstellar space? So Picard wills himself to go back in time, he is still in the Nexus.

Even if by some magic mumbo jumbo he actually can leave the nexus and appear anywhere he wants, then why dont he appear back on the Enterprise as it nears that space station. Once there he orders Worf to destroy it thus killing Soren and ending everything once and for all.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Even if by some magic mumbo jumbo he actually can leave the nexus and appear anywhere he wants, then why dont he appear back on the Enterprise as it nears that space station. Once there he orders Worf to destroy it thus killing Soren and ending everything once and for all.

What about all the other injured people on the station that had nothing to do with Soran's plan?

 

[Lightinspire]

I think as Picard and Riker was beamed aboard a wide angle shot of Kirk's grave with a Romulan ship in the background very small, getting larger as it approaches and then the screen goes dark and you hear the sound of a transport in process. Opening it up for what Shatner wrote in The Return of the Romulans and Borg teaming up to bring Kirk back to life to battle Picard and Star Fleet.

 

[BriGuy]

What should have happened was they rolled the credits.

Oh, wait, they did.

 

[RyuRoots]

Thank god fans don't get a say in creative decisions. I thought it was a good ending. That he didn't get a grandiose death (and definitely, for sure died), but died saving a people who would never know him really made Kirk's death a good one, at least for me. I think that part of the film was fine as-is. What I have a beef with is how Picard just tosses aside the artifact that Professor Galen gave to him in "The Chase" when he's talking to Riker before they beam aboard the Farragut.

"Oh yeah, eff that artifact that lead to our discovery of the origin of humanoid life in this galaxy." Grrrr. I mean yes, I get that the photo album was important at all, but always bugged me.

 

[Danny99]

At this point, I knew Shatner was not going to be the Shatner of old and have a running and jumping ass kicking death.

However at this moment, I cannot think of a better way for him to die.

 

[Tom]

Picard thanks Kirk, and is ruminating on how many lives they have saved, looking off into the horizon, and he turns to look at Kirk, and Kirk has vanished.

A Twilight Zone was he there, was he never there, is he alive or not mystery.

But Ron Moore DID write this ending!!.. Except it was used in BSG finale instead when Lee was babbling somthing turns back around and Starbuck was gone.

 

[Gorn Captain]

Picard thanks Kirk, and is ruminating on how many lives they have saved, looking off into the horizon, and he turns to look at Kirk, and Kirk has vanished.

A Twilight Zone was he there, was he never there, is he alive or not mystery.

But Ron Moore DID write this ending!!.. Except it was used in BSG finale instead when Lee was babbling somthing turns back around and Starbuck was gone.

You're right! Damn, I thought that was my idea! And it was the same guy. Holy shit. Well, too bad he didn't think of the idea fifteen years earlier then.

 

[caisson2delta]

My only issue was that they left him buried under a pile of rocks on some nowhere planet. James T. Kirk at least deserved to have his remains sent back home for proper honors.

 

[Shazam!]

Hee hee. Here's my fanwanky theory: The Nexus was actually travelling backwards through time. Kirk dies in the future stopping Soren but this allows him to live in the past because the trajectory of the Nexus was never altered in the future and thus never went anywhere near the Enterprise-B in the past. This also allows Scotty to not come across as a complete mental in Relics.

LOL

 

[Ziz]

Hee hee. Here's my fanwanky theory: The Nexus was actually travelling backwards through time. Kirk dies in the future stopping Soren but this allows him to live in the past because the trajectory of the Nexus was never altered in the future and thus never went anywhere near the Enterprise-B in the past. This also allows Scotty to not come across as a complete mental in Relics.

LOL

I have my own "medical technobabble" explanation for Scotty. Ready?

In "Relics", when Riker and Geordi are going to beam Scotty out of the transporter, Geordi says "There's less than .003% signal degredation". Well, maybe that .003% consisted of the few brain cells that stored the fact that Kirk was dead. Without those few brain cells, Scotty comes out thinking Kirk is still alive. It's kind of like deleting a Word file from your computer. Everything else continues to run fine, you just can't access that one bit of information.

 

[seigezunt]

David George fixed this mess in his Crucible novel about Kirk.

And then there's The Return, of course...


Me, as much as I hated how Kirk died, I thought the destruction of the Enterprise-D was just as stupid and pointless.

 

[soot]

Kirk shouldn't have been in Generations at all. It was a Next Generation movie; he didn't belong. If you're going to kill Kirk, he needs to be the focus of the story, not a guest star.

David George fixed this mess in his Crucible novel about Kirk.

I'm intrigued. Care to drop a spoiler?

 

[Gorn Captain]

Kirk shouldn't have been in Generations at all. It was a Next Generation movie; he didn't belong. If you're going to kill Kirk, he needs to be the focus of the story, not a guest star.

David George fixed this mess in his Crucible novel about Kirk.

I'm intrigued. Care to drop a spoiler?

I second this request.

 

[Broccoli]

I think the whole ending was stupid. Riker and co are all dead and Shatner and Picard are still stuck in the nexus in my opinion.

Okay, Picard and Soren got sucked into the nexus then the enterprise d is destroyed on the planet.

Picard hooks up with Kirk and they ride off to stop Soren. In my opinion the final battle where kirk "dies" still takes place in the Nexus, only this is Picard's fantasy to stop soren or whatever his name is.

In reality the planet is still destroyed, Riker, Data, Troi, Worf etc are still dead. If not how did they manage to exit the nexus which is in the middle of interstellar space? So Picard wills himself to go back in time, he is still in the Nexus.

Even if by some magic mumbo jumbo he actually can leave the nexus and appear anywhere he wants, then why dont he appear back on the Enterprise as it nears that space station. Once there he orders Worf to destroy it thus killing Soren and ending everything once and for all.

Only that would contradict the later years of Deep Space Nine and portions of Voyager and Enterprise.

Thank god fans don't get a say in creative decisions.

+1

 

[RandyS]

At this point, I knew Shatner was not going to be the Shatner of old and have a running and jumping ass kicking death.

However at this moment, I cannot think of a better way for him to die.

Considering that GENERATIONS is fifteen years old, and Kirk is now played by a younger actor in a timeline that has rendered that particular death moot, neither can I.

 

[Captain59]

My only issue was that they left him buried under a pile of rocks on some nowhere planet. James T. Kirk at least deserved to have his remains sent back home for proper honors.

I've always hated this as well. I have to assume once Spock found out about it, he went to collect Kirk's body and brought it back to Earth. Hopefully he first went up to Picard, back slapped him across the face, and said, "what the hell were you thinking, asshole?"

Or maybe the Borg picked it up to use to fight their enemies. Oh wait, that already happened in the Shatnerverse.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I think it would've been cool if Picard had died falling off a bridge and Kirk come back to command the Enterprise-E.