Where did that come from? Only the Romulans have Warbirds. Klingons have Birds-of-Prey and battlecruisers in this century.
Klingon WARBIRDS?
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Very old news this, and hashed over all the way back in November, following the first press screenings. If you check your TOS episodes, I think you'll find that neither "Warbird" nor "Bird of Prey" was ever used as a ship class designation on-screen. Those came later and were not always used consistently.
I'm actually a little glad this has been brought up; I have a thought on all this.
What is the term "starship" really? Star meaning space and ship meaning ocean-going vessel to make "vessel that goes through space." Okay. So Earth went from the ocean to space, essentially, right down to Starfleet's Navy-esque mannerisms and regs.
Warbird? War meaning "for fighting" and bird = plane? So the Klingons and Romulans build fighting birds. Consider, also, that "warbird" would be an equivalent term translated from each of their respective languages. Now, given the Klingons and Romulans apparent shared fondness for fighting and birds, I think that works. "Warbird" is the not-so-friendly equivalent of "Starship."
Heck, they might call Starfleet ships "warbirds" themselves.
What is the term "starship" really? Star meaning space and ship meaning ocean-going vessel to make "vessel that goes through space." Okay. So Earth went from the ocean to space, essentially, right down to Starfleet's Navy-esque mannerisms and regs.
Warbird? War meaning "for fighting" and bird = plane? So the Klingons and Romulans build fighting birds. Consider, also, that "warbird" would be an equivalent term translated from each of their respective languages. Now, given the Klingons and Romulans apparent shared fondness for fighting and birds, I think that works. "Warbird" is the not-so-friendly equivalent of "Starship."
Heck, they might call Starfleet ships "warbirds" themselves.
Am I the only one who finds this complaint kind of odd? "Battle cruiser" is an outmoded old-Earth designation for a type of naval vessel with big guns and crappy armor; for all we know, the Klingons call them warbirds, just like the Romulans do.
It also occurs to me that "warbird" might be a common alien designation like "cruiser" is for human cultures. "Warbird" is the largest front line combatant used in massed fleet action where "bird of prey" or "preybird" is basically a raiding vessel or fast attack ship. Other less catchy classes would be "bird of life" (medical ship) or "Bird of nest" (freighter).
It also occurs to me that "warbird" might be a common alien designation like "cruiser" is for human cultures. "Warbird" is the largest front line combatant used in massed fleet action where "bird of prey" or "preybird" is basically a raiding vessel or fast attack ship. Other less catchy classes would be "bird of life" (medical ship) or "Bird of nest" (freighter).
I am amused that this is one of those mistakes that every set of Trek producers/writers replicates.
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Exactly my point.
To be fair, "warbird" is a general term in real life - especially in the US military - for a military aircraft, so why wouldn't that continue in the future. Starfleet probably refers to all armed foreign military craft as warbirds, at least until intel/defectors/diplomacy turns up the real name for the thing.
I'm actually a little glad this has been brought up; I have a thought on all this.
What is the term "starship" really? Star meaning space and ship meaning ocean-going vessel to make "vessel that goes through space." Okay. So Earth went from the ocean to space, essentially, right down to Starfleet's Navy-esque mannerisms and regs.
Warbird? War meaning "for fighting" and bird = plane? So the Klingons and Romulans build fighting birds. Consider, also, that "warbird" would be an equivalent term translated from each of their respective languages. Now, given the Klingons and Romulans apparent shared fondness for fighting and birds, I think that works. "Warbird" is the not-so-friendly equivalent of "Starship."
Heck, they might call Starfleet ships "warbirds" themselves.
I like these ideas.
Much better than checklist nit-picking, imo.
Yes. The Romulans and Klingons were never known to share technology.
Purchase, thank you.
In exchange for a cloaking device worth a heck of a lot more than those Klingon rustbuckets.
You're on a forum where one poster is angry/upset that the Kelvin registry number starts with zero, and another dismisses the entire movie simply because Gary Mitchell isn't in it.
Yeah, it's a goof. Then again, so was using the term "Bird-of-Prey" for a Klingon ship in "The Seach for Spock". Prior to TSFS, only Romulan ships were known as "Bird-of-Preys". Klingons had battle cruisers. And had there been Internet forums in 1984, Trek fans would have certainly complained about that as well back then. But since 1984, the goof from TSFS has been widely accepted as "Canon".
I would also add that the term "Klingon warbird" was first (mistankingly) used in ENT's pilot "Broken Bow", not in Star Trek XI.
Both the bird-of-prey and the warbird were originally only Romulan ship types. Due to writer errors, the Klingons started to use these terms as well. Mistakes accidentally become Canon sometimes. Personally, I find this to be a rather fascinating phenomenon.
Both the bird-of-prey and the warbird were originally only Romulan ship types. Due to writer errors, the Klingons started to use these terms as well. Mistakes accidentally become Canon sometimes. Personally, I find this to be a rather fascinating phenomenon.
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