Weekend Numbers - Trek #7 - $5.6 million - $232 million

[St. Squigolas]

I'd disown you?

Seriously though. Nothing like hearing the man say "Roll out" and "Shit" within seconds of each other. I'm not going to lie...I was a little aroused.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

No I'd force you to go with me.

But first things first. Transformers. Hell yeah.

 

[Bill Morris]

Okay, but what's the breakeven point for a $150 million production plus promotion? A 1991 article in The New York Times mentioned $100 domestic gross required to break even on the original $41 million production budget proposed for TUC, which was trimmed to $27 million, with the stars agreeing to a piece of the action instead of up-front salaries.

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[Jax]

Okay, but what's the breakeven point for a $150 million production plus promotion? A 1991 article in The New York Times mentioned $100 domestic gross required to break even on the original $41 million production budget proposed for TUC, which was trimmed to $27 million, with the stars agreeing to a piece of the action instead of up-front salaries.

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ST began making profit ages ago.

 

[MvRojo]

Okay, but what's the breakeven point for a $150 million production plus promotion? A 1991 article in The New York Times mentioned $100 domestic gross required to break even on the original $41 million production budget proposed for TUC, which was trimmed to $27 million, with the stars agreeing to a piece of the action instead of up-front salaries.

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It used to be something like double production cost. Nowadays it doesn't even really matter since a lot of movies don't break even until DVD sales. But I would think that around $250 million may be enough to be close to breaking even assuming at least $50-75 million in promotion, which may be on the low end. But it also depends on how much each production company contributed to the movie.

For example, WB will make a decent profit on T4 just because they only paid $50 million + promotion for the domestic rights.

 

[noknowes]

Okay, but what's the breakeven point for a $150 million production plus promotion? A 1991 article in The New York Times mentioned $100 domestic gross required to break even on the original $41 million production budget proposed for TUC, which was trimmed to $27 million, with the stars agreeing to a piece of the action instead of up-front salaries.

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It used to be something like double production cost. Nowadays it doesn't even really matter since a lot of movies don't break even until DVD sales. But I would think that around $250 million may be enough to be close to breaking even assuming at least $50-75 million in promotion, which may be on the low end. But it also depends on how much each production company contributed to the movie.

For example, WB will make a decent profit on T4 just because they only paid $50 million + promotion for the domestic rights.

But I thought it was 3 times the production cost to break even as studio gets less after each passing week on a sliding scale.

which means £450 million to break even.

 

[Bill Morris]

The only other figure I've seen is that the studio generally gets 55% of box office, but I don't have an authoritative reference to show.

$250 million x 55% = $137.5 million

 

[Jax]

Okay, but what's the breakeven point for a $150 million production plus promotion? A 1991 article in The New York Times mentioned $100 domestic gross required to break even on the original $41 million production budget proposed for TUC, which was trimmed to $27 million, with the stars agreeing to a piece of the action instead of up-front salaries.

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It used to be something like double production cost. Nowadays it doesn't even really matter since a lot of movies don't break even until DVD sales. But I would think that around $250 million may be enough to be close to breaking even assuming at least $50-75 million in promotion, which may be on the low end. But it also depends on how much each production company contributed to the movie.

For example, WB will make a decent profit on T4 just because they only paid $50 million + promotion for the domestic rights.

But I thought it was 3 times the production cost to break even as studio gets less after each passing week on a sliding scale.

which means £450 million to break even.

no thaats false...Paramount are happy so we should be happy

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Haven't you heard? We're all very pleased.

 

[Flake]

I read that studios get something like 90% of the gross of the movie in the first few weeks, gradually decreasing the longer the movie is kept in the theatre. Overseas the figures are lower.

 

[Hyperspace05]

But I thought it was 3 times the production cost to break even as studio gets less after each passing week on a sliding scale.

which means £450 million to break even.

Geez - How do people come up with these higher and higher numbers?

The sliding scale *does* exist - but it starts out in the movie studios favor. Usually the studio gets at least 75% of the opening weekend gross, and that ratio is reduced every week. The longer a movie stays in theaters, the higher percentage the theater gets. (This is why Titanic was extremely profitable for movie theaters) This is another reason why studios *LOVE* huge opening weekends.

For most movies that ends up averaging to 50% of the intakes over the entire theatrical run.

 

[Flake]

$3.5million overseas. Overseas total $119,000,000 - Worldwide total $351,000,000

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ie636164bd8df42b4158c228eeb1eb078

 

[Bill Morris]

So maybe $351 million covers production, distribution, and promotion, leaving a little Profit and Lace. Or maybe the figure of $150 million for production was BS, and the stars ARE made of latinum.

 

[Cyrus]

There is no need to crunch the numbers. This movie is going to make shitloads of money for Paramount. It's going to be huge on home video.

 

[RAMA]

$3.5million overseas. Overseas total $119,000,000 - Worldwide total $351,000,000

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ie636164bd8df42b4158c228eeb1eb078

WOW ST did tremendous business overseas this week!! This is a lot more than I expected...even though I knew it was opening in India. $350 million worldwide official!

RAMA

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Aside from everything else, the "production budget" is not what it really costs the studio to make a movie.

One simple question, as an example: included in the budget is the cost of renting studio space.

Who does the production rent that space from and pay the money to?

 

[scottydog]

Do the actors get a percentage of the box office? I assume they get residuals from rentals and airings on TV.

 

[Garth Rockett]

Pretty much in line with the projections. I'm interested to see how the actuals compare. I'm still feeling $250M....

 

[Borgminister]

There is no need to crunch the numbers. This movie is going to make shitloads of money for Paramount. It's going to be huge on home video.

No doubt about it.

And not only that, this movie paves the way for an even higher performing sequel.

 

[VulcanJedi]

I have my reservations about the movie but it is a fantastic reinvigoration for the franchise. I hope the next movies manage to be substantive as well as exciting, I kind of fear that the success of the movie might lead the suits into thinking they know what the series needs and start getting their hands in it.

Still, it's crazy numbers, on a personal selfish note I feel vindicated by my long-held position that a break would only strengthen the franchise not kill it as some thought when Enterprise went off the air and that such a thing was only a few years away.

I don't know about suits being the real problem, they've often been right.